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In an answer to another question, I stated $$sumlimits_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j} = frac{N+M+1}{N+1}.$$



It is clearly true when $N=0$ since you add up $M+1$ copies of $1$, and when $M=0$ since you add up one copy of $1$. And, for example, with $M=4$ and $N=9$ you get $frac{1}{1}+frac{4}{13}+frac{6}{78}+frac{4}{286}+frac{1}{715} = frac{14}{10}$ as expected.



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    In an answer to another question, I stated $$sumlimits_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j} = frac{N+M+1}{N+1}.$$



    It is clearly true when $N=0$ since you add up $M+1$ copies of $1$, and when $M=0$ since you add up one copy of $1$. And, for example, with $M=4$ and $N=9$ you get $frac{1}{1}+frac{4}{13}+frac{6}{78}+frac{4}{286}+frac{1}{715} = frac{14}{10}$ as expected.



    But how might you approach a general proof?










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      In an answer to another question, I stated $$sumlimits_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j} = frac{N+M+1}{N+1}.$$



      It is clearly true when $N=0$ since you add up $M+1$ copies of $1$, and when $M=0$ since you add up one copy of $1$. And, for example, with $M=4$ and $N=9$ you get $frac{1}{1}+frac{4}{13}+frac{6}{78}+frac{4}{286}+frac{1}{715} = frac{14}{10}$ as expected.



      But how might you approach a general proof?










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      In an answer to another question, I stated $$sumlimits_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j} = frac{N+M+1}{N+1}.$$



      It is clearly true when $N=0$ since you add up $M+1$ copies of $1$, and when $M=0$ since you add up one copy of $1$. And, for example, with $M=4$ and $N=9$ you get $frac{1}{1}+frac{4}{13}+frac{6}{78}+frac{4}{286}+frac{1}{715} = frac{14}{10}$ as expected.



      But how might you approach a general proof?







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          Hint. Note that
          $$frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{binom{N+M-j}{N}}{binom{N+M}{N}}.$$
          Hence, we can rewrite the sum as
          $$sum_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{j=0}^M binom{N+M-j}{N}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{i=N}^{N+M} binom{i}{N}.$$
          Finally use the Hockey-stick identity.






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            That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
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            @Henry Well done!!
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          $ds{sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} =
          {N + M + 1 over N + 1}: {LARGE ?}}$
          .




          begin{align}
          sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} & =
          sum_{j = 0}^{M}{M!/bracks{j!pars{M - j}!} over
          pars{N + M}!/bracks{j!pars{N + M - j}!}}
          \[5mm] & =
          {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}sum_{j = 0}^{M}
          {N + M - j choose M - j}
          \[5mm] & =
          {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
          sum_{j = 0}^{M}pars{-1}^{j}
          bracks{z^{M - j}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1}
          \[5mm] & =
          {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
          bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1},
          {pars{-z}^{M + 1} - 1 over pars{-z} - 1}
          \[5mm] & =
          {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
          bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 2}
          \[5mm] & =
          {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
          braces{{-bracks{-N - 2} + M - 1 choose M}pars{-1}^{M}}
          \[5mm] & = bbx{N + M + 1 over N + 1}
          end{align}






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            $begingroup$

            Hint. Note that
            $$frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{binom{N+M-j}{N}}{binom{N+M}{N}}.$$
            Hence, we can rewrite the sum as
            $$sum_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{j=0}^M binom{N+M-j}{N}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{i=N}^{N+M} binom{i}{N}.$$
            Finally use the Hockey-stick identity.






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            • $begingroup$
              That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
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              – Henry
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            • $begingroup$
              @Henry Well done!!
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            $begingroup$

            Hint. Note that
            $$frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{binom{N+M-j}{N}}{binom{N+M}{N}}.$$
            Hence, we can rewrite the sum as
            $$sum_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{j=0}^M binom{N+M-j}{N}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{i=N}^{N+M} binom{i}{N}.$$
            Finally use the Hockey-stick identity.






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            • $begingroup$
              That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
              $endgroup$
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              @Henry Well done!!
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            $begingroup$

            Hint. Note that
            $$frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{binom{N+M-j}{N}}{binom{N+M}{N}}.$$
            Hence, we can rewrite the sum as
            $$sum_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{j=0}^M binom{N+M-j}{N}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{i=N}^{N+M} binom{i}{N}.$$
            Finally use the Hockey-stick identity.






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            Hint. Note that
            $$frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{binom{N+M-j}{N}}{binom{N+M}{N}}.$$
            Hence, we can rewrite the sum as
            $$sum_{j=0}^M frac{M choose j}{N+M choose j}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{j=0}^M binom{N+M-j}{N}=frac{1}{binom{N+M}{N}}sum_{i=N}^{N+M} binom{i}{N}.$$
            Finally use the Hockey-stick identity.







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            • $begingroup$
              That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
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              – Henry
              Nov 25 '18 at 19:09










            • $begingroup$
              @Henry Well done!!
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Nov 25 '18 at 19:19


















            • $begingroup$
              That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
              $endgroup$
              – Henry
              Nov 25 '18 at 19:09










            • $begingroup$
              @Henry Well done!!
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Nov 25 '18 at 19:19
















            $begingroup$
            That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:09




            $begingroup$
            That seems to work well. In my example of $M=4,N=9$ this represents $frac{715}{715}+frac{220}{715}+frac{55}{715}+frac{10}{715}+frac{1}{715} = frac{1001}{715}=frac{14 choose 10}{13 choose 9}=frac{14}{10}$
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:09












            $begingroup$
            @Henry Well done!!
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:19




            $begingroup$
            @Henry Well done!!
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:19











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            $ds{sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} =
            {N + M + 1 over N + 1}: {LARGE ?}}$
            .




            begin{align}
            sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} & =
            sum_{j = 0}^{M}{M!/bracks{j!pars{M - j}!} over
            pars{N + M}!/bracks{j!pars{N + M - j}!}}
            \[5mm] & =
            {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}sum_{j = 0}^{M}
            {N + M - j choose M - j}
            \[5mm] & =
            {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
            sum_{j = 0}^{M}pars{-1}^{j}
            bracks{z^{M - j}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1}
            \[5mm] & =
            {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
            bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1},
            {pars{-z}^{M + 1} - 1 over pars{-z} - 1}
            \[5mm] & =
            {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
            bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 2}
            \[5mm] & =
            {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
            braces{{-bracks{-N - 2} + M - 1 choose M}pars{-1}^{M}}
            \[5mm] & = bbx{N + M + 1 over N + 1}
            end{align}






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              $ds{sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} =
              {N + M + 1 over N + 1}: {LARGE ?}}$
              .




              begin{align}
              sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} & =
              sum_{j = 0}^{M}{M!/bracks{j!pars{M - j}!} over
              pars{N + M}!/bracks{j!pars{N + M - j}!}}
              \[5mm] & =
              {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}sum_{j = 0}^{M}
              {N + M - j choose M - j}
              \[5mm] & =
              {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
              sum_{j = 0}^{M}pars{-1}^{j}
              bracks{z^{M - j}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1}
              \[5mm] & =
              {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
              bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1},
              {pars{-z}^{M + 1} - 1 over pars{-z} - 1}
              \[5mm] & =
              {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
              bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 2}
              \[5mm] & =
              {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
              braces{{-bracks{-N - 2} + M - 1 choose M}pars{-1}^{M}}
              \[5mm] & = bbx{N + M + 1 over N + 1}
              end{align}






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                $ds{sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} =
                {N + M + 1 over N + 1}: {LARGE ?}}$
                .




                begin{align}
                sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} & =
                sum_{j = 0}^{M}{M!/bracks{j!pars{M - j}!} over
                pars{N + M}!/bracks{j!pars{N + M - j}!}}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}sum_{j = 0}^{M}
                {N + M - j choose M - j}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                sum_{j = 0}^{M}pars{-1}^{j}
                bracks{z^{M - j}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1},
                {pars{-z}^{M + 1} - 1 over pars{-z} - 1}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 2}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                braces{{-bracks{-N - 2} + M - 1 choose M}pars{-1}^{M}}
                \[5mm] & = bbx{N + M + 1 over N + 1}
                end{align}






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                $ds{sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} =
                {N + M + 1 over N + 1}: {LARGE ?}}$
                .




                begin{align}
                sum_{j = 0}^{M}{{M choose j} over {N + M choose j}} & =
                sum_{j = 0}^{M}{M!/bracks{j!pars{M - j}!} over
                pars{N + M}!/bracks{j!pars{N + M - j}!}}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}sum_{j = 0}^{M}
                {N + M - j choose M - j}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                sum_{j = 0}^{M}pars{-1}^{j}
                bracks{z^{M - j}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 1},
                {pars{-z}^{M + 1} - 1 over pars{-z} - 1}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                bracks{z^{M}}pars{1 + z}^{-N - 2}
                \[5mm] & =
                {M!, N! over pars{N + M}!}pars{-1}^{M}
                braces{{-bracks{-N - 2} + M - 1 choose M}pars{-1}^{M}}
                \[5mm] & = bbx{N + M + 1 over N + 1}
                end{align}







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