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How do I show that the square of the gaussian curvature is the sum of the squares of the normal and geodesic curvatures other than the one shown in page 38 of http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk/~belton/www/notes/geom_notes.pdf? That is,
$$kappa^2=kappa_n^2 + kappa_g^2$$



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How do I show that the square of the gaussian curvature is the sum of the squares of the normal and geodesic curvatures other than the one shown in page 38 of http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk/~belton/www/notes/geom_notes.pdf? That is,
$$kappa^2=kappa_n^2 + kappa_g^2$$



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How do I show that the square of the gaussian curvature is the sum of the squares of the normal and geodesic curvatures other than the one shown in page 38 of http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk/~belton/www/notes/geom_notes.pdf? That is,
$$kappa^2=kappa_n^2 + kappa_g^2$$



Is there another way?










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How do I show that the square of the gaussian curvature is the sum of the squares of the normal and geodesic curvatures other than the one shown in page 38 of http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk/~belton/www/notes/geom_notes.pdf? That is,
$$kappa^2=kappa_n^2 + kappa_g^2$$



Is there another way?







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The shape of a surface influences the curvature of curves on the surface.Let $S subset mathbb{R}^n$ a regular surface and $alpha:(a, b) rightarrow S$ a unit speed curve. If, for instance, $alpha$ lies on a plane or a cylinder,
it can have zero curvature everywhere. This is not possible for curves on a sphere since no segment of a straight line can lie on a sphere. Thus the natural way to investigate how much a $S$ curves, consists in looking at the curvature of curves on the surface. In order to make everything crystal clar, please consider the picture below.
The geodesic and normal curvatures of $alpha$ are related to the Gaussian curvature by the formula you shown above. Now by remembering that $alpha'$ is a unit vector and it is tangent to $S$ we can conclude that $alpha'$ is perpendiculat to the norlal $N$ of $S$.
Gaussian, normal, and geodesic curvatures
Thus we have that $alpha'$, $N$, and $N times alpha^{'}$ are mutually perpendicular unit vectors. Since $alpha'$ is the unit speed, $alpha''$ is perpendicular to $alpha'$ and then it can be written as a linear combination of $N$ and $N times alpha^{'}$.
In other words we have:
begin{equation}
alpha^{''}(s)=kappa_n N + k_g N times alpha^{'}(s)
end{equation}
Where
begin{equation}
kappa_n =alpha^{''} cdot N
end{equation}
and
begin{equation}
kappa_g =alpha^{''} cdot (N times alpha^{'})
end{equation}
Now:
begin{equation}
kappa_alpha(s)^2=||alpha^{''}(s)||^2=||alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}||^2+||alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}||^2
end{equation}
i.e. the parallel and perpedicular components of the acceleration of $alpha(s)$. By definition $alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}$ is the component tangent to $S$ and $alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}$ s the component parallel to a normal vector to the surface.






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    The shape of a surface influences the curvature of curves on the surface.Let $S subset mathbb{R}^n$ a regular surface and $alpha:(a, b) rightarrow S$ a unit speed curve. If, for instance, $alpha$ lies on a plane or a cylinder,
    it can have zero curvature everywhere. This is not possible for curves on a sphere since no segment of a straight line can lie on a sphere. Thus the natural way to investigate how much a $S$ curves, consists in looking at the curvature of curves on the surface. In order to make everything crystal clar, please consider the picture below.
    The geodesic and normal curvatures of $alpha$ are related to the Gaussian curvature by the formula you shown above. Now by remembering that $alpha'$ is a unit vector and it is tangent to $S$ we can conclude that $alpha'$ is perpendiculat to the norlal $N$ of $S$.
    Gaussian, normal, and geodesic curvatures
    Thus we have that $alpha'$, $N$, and $N times alpha^{'}$ are mutually perpendicular unit vectors. Since $alpha'$ is the unit speed, $alpha''$ is perpendicular to $alpha'$ and then it can be written as a linear combination of $N$ and $N times alpha^{'}$.
    In other words we have:
    begin{equation}
    alpha^{''}(s)=kappa_n N + k_g N times alpha^{'}(s)
    end{equation}
    Where
    begin{equation}
    kappa_n =alpha^{''} cdot N
    end{equation}
    and
    begin{equation}
    kappa_g =alpha^{''} cdot (N times alpha^{'})
    end{equation}
    Now:
    begin{equation}
    kappa_alpha(s)^2=||alpha^{''}(s)||^2=||alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}||^2+||alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}||^2
    end{equation}
    i.e. the parallel and perpedicular components of the acceleration of $alpha(s)$. By definition $alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}$ is the component tangent to $S$ and $alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}$ s the component parallel to a normal vector to the surface.






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      The shape of a surface influences the curvature of curves on the surface.Let $S subset mathbb{R}^n$ a regular surface and $alpha:(a, b) rightarrow S$ a unit speed curve. If, for instance, $alpha$ lies on a plane or a cylinder,
      it can have zero curvature everywhere. This is not possible for curves on a sphere since no segment of a straight line can lie on a sphere. Thus the natural way to investigate how much a $S$ curves, consists in looking at the curvature of curves on the surface. In order to make everything crystal clar, please consider the picture below.
      The geodesic and normal curvatures of $alpha$ are related to the Gaussian curvature by the formula you shown above. Now by remembering that $alpha'$ is a unit vector and it is tangent to $S$ we can conclude that $alpha'$ is perpendiculat to the norlal $N$ of $S$.
      Gaussian, normal, and geodesic curvatures
      Thus we have that $alpha'$, $N$, and $N times alpha^{'}$ are mutually perpendicular unit vectors. Since $alpha'$ is the unit speed, $alpha''$ is perpendicular to $alpha'$ and then it can be written as a linear combination of $N$ and $N times alpha^{'}$.
      In other words we have:
      begin{equation}
      alpha^{''}(s)=kappa_n N + k_g N times alpha^{'}(s)
      end{equation}
      Where
      begin{equation}
      kappa_n =alpha^{''} cdot N
      end{equation}
      and
      begin{equation}
      kappa_g =alpha^{''} cdot (N times alpha^{'})
      end{equation}
      Now:
      begin{equation}
      kappa_alpha(s)^2=||alpha^{''}(s)||^2=||alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}||^2+||alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}||^2
      end{equation}
      i.e. the parallel and perpedicular components of the acceleration of $alpha(s)$. By definition $alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}$ is the component tangent to $S$ and $alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}$ s the component parallel to a normal vector to the surface.






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        The shape of a surface influences the curvature of curves on the surface.Let $S subset mathbb{R}^n$ a regular surface and $alpha:(a, b) rightarrow S$ a unit speed curve. If, for instance, $alpha$ lies on a plane or a cylinder,
        it can have zero curvature everywhere. This is not possible for curves on a sphere since no segment of a straight line can lie on a sphere. Thus the natural way to investigate how much a $S$ curves, consists in looking at the curvature of curves on the surface. In order to make everything crystal clar, please consider the picture below.
        The geodesic and normal curvatures of $alpha$ are related to the Gaussian curvature by the formula you shown above. Now by remembering that $alpha'$ is a unit vector and it is tangent to $S$ we can conclude that $alpha'$ is perpendiculat to the norlal $N$ of $S$.
        Gaussian, normal, and geodesic curvatures
        Thus we have that $alpha'$, $N$, and $N times alpha^{'}$ are mutually perpendicular unit vectors. Since $alpha'$ is the unit speed, $alpha''$ is perpendicular to $alpha'$ and then it can be written as a linear combination of $N$ and $N times alpha^{'}$.
        In other words we have:
        begin{equation}
        alpha^{''}(s)=kappa_n N + k_g N times alpha^{'}(s)
        end{equation}
        Where
        begin{equation}
        kappa_n =alpha^{''} cdot N
        end{equation}
        and
        begin{equation}
        kappa_g =alpha^{''} cdot (N times alpha^{'})
        end{equation}
        Now:
        begin{equation}
        kappa_alpha(s)^2=||alpha^{''}(s)||^2=||alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}||^2+||alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}||^2
        end{equation}
        i.e. the parallel and perpedicular components of the acceleration of $alpha(s)$. By definition $alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}$ is the component tangent to $S$ and $alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}$ s the component parallel to a normal vector to the surface.






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        The shape of a surface influences the curvature of curves on the surface.Let $S subset mathbb{R}^n$ a regular surface and $alpha:(a, b) rightarrow S$ a unit speed curve. If, for instance, $alpha$ lies on a plane or a cylinder,
        it can have zero curvature everywhere. This is not possible for curves on a sphere since no segment of a straight line can lie on a sphere. Thus the natural way to investigate how much a $S$ curves, consists in looking at the curvature of curves on the surface. In order to make everything crystal clar, please consider the picture below.
        The geodesic and normal curvatures of $alpha$ are related to the Gaussian curvature by the formula you shown above. Now by remembering that $alpha'$ is a unit vector and it is tangent to $S$ we can conclude that $alpha'$ is perpendiculat to the norlal $N$ of $S$.
        Gaussian, normal, and geodesic curvatures
        Thus we have that $alpha'$, $N$, and $N times alpha^{'}$ are mutually perpendicular unit vectors. Since $alpha'$ is the unit speed, $alpha''$ is perpendicular to $alpha'$ and then it can be written as a linear combination of $N$ and $N times alpha^{'}$.
        In other words we have:
        begin{equation}
        alpha^{''}(s)=kappa_n N + k_g N times alpha^{'}(s)
        end{equation}
        Where
        begin{equation}
        kappa_n =alpha^{''} cdot N
        end{equation}
        and
        begin{equation}
        kappa_g =alpha^{''} cdot (N times alpha^{'})
        end{equation}
        Now:
        begin{equation}
        kappa_alpha(s)^2=||alpha^{''}(s)||^2=||alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}||^2+||alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}||^2
        end{equation}
        i.e. the parallel and perpedicular components of the acceleration of $alpha(s)$. By definition $alpha^{''}(s)^{parallel}$ is the component tangent to $S$ and $alpha^{''}(s)^{perp}$ s the component parallel to a normal vector to the surface.







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