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I am a manager of a coin casting foundry. We produce perfectly round coins with some (fixed) thickness and a diameter of exactly 1 inch. The working room is well-secured such that if any coin tries to leave the room, the alarm goes off. To allow workers to safely carry coins out of the room, a special container that is 10" * 10" square is available. A maximum of 1 layer of coins may be spread in the container and when it passes the door, the alarm won't go off. Normally, up to 100 coins can be carried with one such container.



Yesterday we encountered a theft. A container (with coins) was taken out of the working room without triggering the alarm. But what confused me is that 106 coins were lost. I don't know how the thief took the extra 6 coins without setting off the alarm.



Can you help me solve this mystery?










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I am a manager of a coin casting foundry. We produce perfectly round coins with some (fixed) thickness and a diameter of exactly 1 inch. The working room is well-secured such that if any coin tries to leave the room, the alarm goes off. To allow workers to safely carry coins out of the room, a special container that is 10" * 10" square is available. A maximum of 1 layer of coins may be spread in the container and when it passes the door, the alarm won't go off. Normally, up to 100 coins can be carried with one such container.



Yesterday we encountered a theft. A container (with coins) was taken out of the working room without triggering the alarm. But what confused me is that 106 coins were lost. I don't know how the thief took the extra 6 coins without setting off the alarm.



Can you help me solve this mystery?










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I am a manager of a coin casting foundry. We produce perfectly round coins with some (fixed) thickness and a diameter of exactly 1 inch. The working room is well-secured such that if any coin tries to leave the room, the alarm goes off. To allow workers to safely carry coins out of the room, a special container that is 10" * 10" square is available. A maximum of 1 layer of coins may be spread in the container and when it passes the door, the alarm won't go off. Normally, up to 100 coins can be carried with one such container.



Yesterday we encountered a theft. A container (with coins) was taken out of the working room without triggering the alarm. But what confused me is that 106 coins were lost. I don't know how the thief took the extra 6 coins without setting off the alarm.



Can you help me solve this mystery?










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I am a manager of a coin casting foundry. We produce perfectly round coins with some (fixed) thickness and a diameter of exactly 1 inch. The working room is well-secured such that if any coin tries to leave the room, the alarm goes off. To allow workers to safely carry coins out of the room, a special container that is 10" * 10" square is available. A maximum of 1 layer of coins may be spread in the container and when it passes the door, the alarm won't go off. Normally, up to 100 coins can be carried with one such container.



Yesterday we encountered a theft. A container (with coins) was taken out of the working room without triggering the alarm. But what confused me is that 106 coins were lost. I don't know how the thief took the extra 6 coins without setting off the alarm.



Can you help me solve this mystery?







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The coins were




packed in a (partially) hexagonal packing. This is more efficient than a 'square' packing, so it allows for some extra coins above the 100.




It looks like this:






(only the black circles; the gray circles are just for comparing measurements)

SVG source code available here




A proof that




this configuration fits is as follows: the distance between $a_1$ and $b_2$ is $1$; the distance between $a_2$ and $b_2$ is $frac{1}{2}$. By Pythagoras, the distance between $a_1$ and $a_2$ is $sqrt{1-frac{1}{2}^2}$ = $frac{1}{2}sqrt{3}$. So the distance between $a_1$ and $a_3$ is $sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_5$ it's $2sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_7$ it's $2sqrt{3}+2$ and between $a_1$ and $a_{11}$ it's $4sqrt{3}+2 ≈ 8.9282 < 9$, so this configuration fits in a $10 times 10$ square.




Note that 106




is the currently known maximum number of coins that would fit; see this site for more details about minimal circle packings. For $N=107$, the 'ratio' between the circle radius and the length of the square is $20.1995... > 20$, which means the container size needs to be $0.5 ,text{inch} times , 20.1995... > 10 ,text{inch}$.







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    The coins were




    packed in a (partially) hexagonal packing. This is more efficient than a 'square' packing, so it allows for some extra coins above the 100.




    It looks like this:






    (only the black circles; the gray circles are just for comparing measurements)

    SVG source code available here




    A proof that




    this configuration fits is as follows: the distance between $a_1$ and $b_2$ is $1$; the distance between $a_2$ and $b_2$ is $frac{1}{2}$. By Pythagoras, the distance between $a_1$ and $a_2$ is $sqrt{1-frac{1}{2}^2}$ = $frac{1}{2}sqrt{3}$. So the distance between $a_1$ and $a_3$ is $sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_5$ it's $2sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_7$ it's $2sqrt{3}+2$ and between $a_1$ and $a_{11}$ it's $4sqrt{3}+2 ≈ 8.9282 < 9$, so this configuration fits in a $10 times 10$ square.




    Note that 106




    is the currently known maximum number of coins that would fit; see this site for more details about minimal circle packings. For $N=107$, the 'ratio' between the circle radius and the length of the square is $20.1995... > 20$, which means the container size needs to be $0.5 ,text{inch} times , 20.1995... > 10 ,text{inch}$.







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      The coins were




      packed in a (partially) hexagonal packing. This is more efficient than a 'square' packing, so it allows for some extra coins above the 100.




      It looks like this:






      (only the black circles; the gray circles are just for comparing measurements)

      SVG source code available here




      A proof that




      this configuration fits is as follows: the distance between $a_1$ and $b_2$ is $1$; the distance between $a_2$ and $b_2$ is $frac{1}{2}$. By Pythagoras, the distance between $a_1$ and $a_2$ is $sqrt{1-frac{1}{2}^2}$ = $frac{1}{2}sqrt{3}$. So the distance between $a_1$ and $a_3$ is $sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_5$ it's $2sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_7$ it's $2sqrt{3}+2$ and between $a_1$ and $a_{11}$ it's $4sqrt{3}+2 ≈ 8.9282 < 9$, so this configuration fits in a $10 times 10$ square.




      Note that 106




      is the currently known maximum number of coins that would fit; see this site for more details about minimal circle packings. For $N=107$, the 'ratio' between the circle radius and the length of the square is $20.1995... > 20$, which means the container size needs to be $0.5 ,text{inch} times , 20.1995... > 10 ,text{inch}$.







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        The coins were




        packed in a (partially) hexagonal packing. This is more efficient than a 'square' packing, so it allows for some extra coins above the 100.




        It looks like this:






        (only the black circles; the gray circles are just for comparing measurements)

        SVG source code available here




        A proof that




        this configuration fits is as follows: the distance between $a_1$ and $b_2$ is $1$; the distance between $a_2$ and $b_2$ is $frac{1}{2}$. By Pythagoras, the distance between $a_1$ and $a_2$ is $sqrt{1-frac{1}{2}^2}$ = $frac{1}{2}sqrt{3}$. So the distance between $a_1$ and $a_3$ is $sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_5$ it's $2sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_7$ it's $2sqrt{3}+2$ and between $a_1$ and $a_{11}$ it's $4sqrt{3}+2 ≈ 8.9282 < 9$, so this configuration fits in a $10 times 10$ square.




        Note that 106




        is the currently known maximum number of coins that would fit; see this site for more details about minimal circle packings. For $N=107$, the 'ratio' between the circle radius and the length of the square is $20.1995... > 20$, which means the container size needs to be $0.5 ,text{inch} times , 20.1995... > 10 ,text{inch}$.







        share|improve this answer














        The coins were




        packed in a (partially) hexagonal packing. This is more efficient than a 'square' packing, so it allows for some extra coins above the 100.




        It looks like this:






        (only the black circles; the gray circles are just for comparing measurements)

        SVG source code available here




        A proof that




        this configuration fits is as follows: the distance between $a_1$ and $b_2$ is $1$; the distance between $a_2$ and $b_2$ is $frac{1}{2}$. By Pythagoras, the distance between $a_1$ and $a_2$ is $sqrt{1-frac{1}{2}^2}$ = $frac{1}{2}sqrt{3}$. So the distance between $a_1$ and $a_3$ is $sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_5$ it's $2sqrt{3}$, between $a_1$ and $a_7$ it's $2sqrt{3}+2$ and between $a_1$ and $a_{11}$ it's $4sqrt{3}+2 ≈ 8.9282 < 9$, so this configuration fits in a $10 times 10$ square.




        Note that 106




        is the currently known maximum number of coins that would fit; see this site for more details about minimal circle packings. For $N=107$, the 'ratio' between the circle radius and the length of the square is $20.1995... > 20$, which means the container size needs to be $0.5 ,text{inch} times , 20.1995... > 10 ,text{inch}$.








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