What is this strange coiled wire and should everything be redone?












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Problem 1



So I'm going through my house, replacing the switches and came across this switch that controls a fan in my bathroom. It looks like this may have been something the previous owner did, and did incorrectly.



switch to control fan



If you notice, there is this strange coiled wire looped around the terminals. The wire itself appears to be stripped in the middle for the terminal connections and continues with the tip exposed. This looks bad and I think should be fixed.



Problem 2



In the bathroom, the light switch controls power to this switch, so the light switch must be on to use the fan. I assume that the wires from the light switch, go to the light, then to the fan. From the fan, I believe the hot splits off and goes to this switch and back. There is no ground in the box for this switch.



The problem itself is not that big of a deal for me, just an annoyance.



Questions




  1. Besides having the ends exposed, is using this coiled wire a hazard?

  2. Should there be a ground wire with the switch?

  3. Should it be replaced with standard 14 gauge wire?

  4. Any other concerns that may stand out based on what I described?


Probably the best thing I can do is to replace it and make the fan independent of the light. This just puts a lot of work on my end as I only want to update the switch, for now. I have other plans to get an electrician to add circuits to my house at some point, just not anytime soon.



Edits



I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling. Here is a different angle of the switch, you can see the majority of the box.



front of switch










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    Can you make sure the breaker's off, unmount the switch (but not unhook the wires), and post photos showing where the weird coiled wire exits the box? I suspect something serious is afoot here...

    – ThreePhaseEel
    Jan 20 at 21:43











  • @ThreePhaseEel I posted a front photo. Let me know if you want me to pull it out still. For some reason it rotated the photo when I uploaded it.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 20 at 22:43






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    This looks like lamp cord.... you are in the US?

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:15











  • I might suggest checking all other areas... you are right that is wrong.

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:17











  • That lamp cord does fit the description clearly. I live in the US. So far I've swapped out about 10 switches, some with smart switches, others just normal. Everything up until this point has been original work with the house. I'm hoping the other bathroom fan was original and done correctly.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 0:09
















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Problem 1



So I'm going through my house, replacing the switches and came across this switch that controls a fan in my bathroom. It looks like this may have been something the previous owner did, and did incorrectly.



switch to control fan



If you notice, there is this strange coiled wire looped around the terminals. The wire itself appears to be stripped in the middle for the terminal connections and continues with the tip exposed. This looks bad and I think should be fixed.



Problem 2



In the bathroom, the light switch controls power to this switch, so the light switch must be on to use the fan. I assume that the wires from the light switch, go to the light, then to the fan. From the fan, I believe the hot splits off and goes to this switch and back. There is no ground in the box for this switch.



The problem itself is not that big of a deal for me, just an annoyance.



Questions




  1. Besides having the ends exposed, is using this coiled wire a hazard?

  2. Should there be a ground wire with the switch?

  3. Should it be replaced with standard 14 gauge wire?

  4. Any other concerns that may stand out based on what I described?


Probably the best thing I can do is to replace it and make the fan independent of the light. This just puts a lot of work on my end as I only want to update the switch, for now. I have other plans to get an electrician to add circuits to my house at some point, just not anytime soon.



Edits



I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling. Here is a different angle of the switch, you can see the majority of the box.



front of switch










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    Can you make sure the breaker's off, unmount the switch (but not unhook the wires), and post photos showing where the weird coiled wire exits the box? I suspect something serious is afoot here...

    – ThreePhaseEel
    Jan 20 at 21:43











  • @ThreePhaseEel I posted a front photo. Let me know if you want me to pull it out still. For some reason it rotated the photo when I uploaded it.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 20 at 22:43






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    This looks like lamp cord.... you are in the US?

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:15











  • I might suggest checking all other areas... you are right that is wrong.

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:17











  • That lamp cord does fit the description clearly. I live in the US. So far I've swapped out about 10 switches, some with smart switches, others just normal. Everything up until this point has been original work with the house. I'm hoping the other bathroom fan was original and done correctly.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 0:09














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Problem 1



So I'm going through my house, replacing the switches and came across this switch that controls a fan in my bathroom. It looks like this may have been something the previous owner did, and did incorrectly.



switch to control fan



If you notice, there is this strange coiled wire looped around the terminals. The wire itself appears to be stripped in the middle for the terminal connections and continues with the tip exposed. This looks bad and I think should be fixed.



Problem 2



In the bathroom, the light switch controls power to this switch, so the light switch must be on to use the fan. I assume that the wires from the light switch, go to the light, then to the fan. From the fan, I believe the hot splits off and goes to this switch and back. There is no ground in the box for this switch.



The problem itself is not that big of a deal for me, just an annoyance.



Questions




  1. Besides having the ends exposed, is using this coiled wire a hazard?

  2. Should there be a ground wire with the switch?

  3. Should it be replaced with standard 14 gauge wire?

  4. Any other concerns that may stand out based on what I described?


Probably the best thing I can do is to replace it and make the fan independent of the light. This just puts a lot of work on my end as I only want to update the switch, for now. I have other plans to get an electrician to add circuits to my house at some point, just not anytime soon.



Edits



I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling. Here is a different angle of the switch, you can see the majority of the box.



front of switch










share|improve this question
















Problem 1



So I'm going through my house, replacing the switches and came across this switch that controls a fan in my bathroom. It looks like this may have been something the previous owner did, and did incorrectly.



switch to control fan



If you notice, there is this strange coiled wire looped around the terminals. The wire itself appears to be stripped in the middle for the terminal connections and continues with the tip exposed. This looks bad and I think should be fixed.



Problem 2



In the bathroom, the light switch controls power to this switch, so the light switch must be on to use the fan. I assume that the wires from the light switch, go to the light, then to the fan. From the fan, I believe the hot splits off and goes to this switch and back. There is no ground in the box for this switch.



The problem itself is not that big of a deal for me, just an annoyance.



Questions




  1. Besides having the ends exposed, is using this coiled wire a hazard?

  2. Should there be a ground wire with the switch?

  3. Should it be replaced with standard 14 gauge wire?

  4. Any other concerns that may stand out based on what I described?


Probably the best thing I can do is to replace it and make the fan independent of the light. This just puts a lot of work on my end as I only want to update the switch, for now. I have other plans to get an electrician to add circuits to my house at some point, just not anytime soon.



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I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling. Here is a different angle of the switch, you can see the majority of the box.



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    Can you make sure the breaker's off, unmount the switch (but not unhook the wires), and post photos showing where the weird coiled wire exits the box? I suspect something serious is afoot here...

    – ThreePhaseEel
    Jan 20 at 21:43











  • @ThreePhaseEel I posted a front photo. Let me know if you want me to pull it out still. For some reason it rotated the photo when I uploaded it.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 20 at 22:43






  • 4





    This looks like lamp cord.... you are in the US?

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:15











  • I might suggest checking all other areas... you are right that is wrong.

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:17











  • That lamp cord does fit the description clearly. I live in the US. So far I've swapped out about 10 switches, some with smart switches, others just normal. Everything up until this point has been original work with the house. I'm hoping the other bathroom fan was original and done correctly.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 0:09














  • 1





    Can you make sure the breaker's off, unmount the switch (but not unhook the wires), and post photos showing where the weird coiled wire exits the box? I suspect something serious is afoot here...

    – ThreePhaseEel
    Jan 20 at 21:43











  • @ThreePhaseEel I posted a front photo. Let me know if you want me to pull it out still. For some reason it rotated the photo when I uploaded it.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 20 at 22:43






  • 4





    This looks like lamp cord.... you are in the US?

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:15











  • I might suggest checking all other areas... you are right that is wrong.

    – noybman
    Jan 20 at 23:17











  • That lamp cord does fit the description clearly. I live in the US. So far I've swapped out about 10 switches, some with smart switches, others just normal. Everything up until this point has been original work with the house. I'm hoping the other bathroom fan was original and done correctly.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 0:09








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Can you make sure the breaker's off, unmount the switch (but not unhook the wires), and post photos showing where the weird coiled wire exits the box? I suspect something serious is afoot here...

– ThreePhaseEel
Jan 20 at 21:43





Can you make sure the breaker's off, unmount the switch (but not unhook the wires), and post photos showing where the weird coiled wire exits the box? I suspect something serious is afoot here...

– ThreePhaseEel
Jan 20 at 21:43













@ThreePhaseEel I posted a front photo. Let me know if you want me to pull it out still. For some reason it rotated the photo when I uploaded it.

– Brandon K
Jan 20 at 22:43





@ThreePhaseEel I posted a front photo. Let me know if you want me to pull it out still. For some reason it rotated the photo when I uploaded it.

– Brandon K
Jan 20 at 22:43




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This looks like lamp cord.... you are in the US?

– noybman
Jan 20 at 23:15





This looks like lamp cord.... you are in the US?

– noybman
Jan 20 at 23:15













I might suggest checking all other areas... you are right that is wrong.

– noybman
Jan 20 at 23:17





I might suggest checking all other areas... you are right that is wrong.

– noybman
Jan 20 at 23:17













That lamp cord does fit the description clearly. I live in the US. So far I've swapped out about 10 switches, some with smart switches, others just normal. Everything up until this point has been original work with the house. I'm hoping the other bathroom fan was original and done correctly.

– Brandon K
Jan 21 at 0:09





That lamp cord does fit the description clearly. I live in the US. So far I've swapped out about 10 switches, some with smart switches, others just normal. Everything up until this point has been original work with the house. I'm hoping the other bathroom fan was original and done correctly.

– Brandon K
Jan 21 at 0:09










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This should definitely be redone with a standard 14/3 NM-B cable



Whoever installed this lightswitch used the first thing they could get their hands on, apparently SPT-2 parallel cordage of some sort, instead of NM cable. As a result, there is no ground in this box at the moment, nor is their a neutral, which is now a requirement to provide at switch locations to accommodate smart switches and such.



As a result, the entire cable that connects this switch to the fixture it controls needs to be replaced with a 14/3 NM cable -- black goes to always-hot in the vent-fan box, red goes to the vent fan hot, white goes in with the neutral bundle that the fan connects to, and bare goes to the ground bundle. In the switch box, bare goes to the green ground screw on the switch, black goes to one switch terminal, red goes to the other switch terminal, and white simply gets capped off with a wirenut as it's not used for a "dumb" mechanical switch that simply sits in the circuit hot and breaks it.



This is also a sign of further trouble lurking



This sort of sloppy work in one place means one thing: that there's probably more trouble lurking where you cannot see. Do not be surprised if you see more flagrant Code violations during further work. If you have a friendly electrician at hand, you may wish to call them in and go on a Code-violation scavenger hunt through your house with them, even.






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  • Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

    – sleblanc
    Jan 21 at 7:32






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    @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

    – ratchet freak
    Jan 21 at 9:24











  • Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 14:24



















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It looks like someone has used lamp cord here. It should be pulled out, and redone with Romex, or whatever is legal where you live.






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    I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling.




    The good news here is that, whomever did this, used an "old work" box to add this switch. See the screw in the top right and bottom left of the box face? If you unscrew those, the box will come loose and you can pull it back out of the hole (the screws attach to tabs that flip up and grab the backside of the drywall). This will make re-running the wires MUCH easier, since it's likely they just fished the wires up from whatever the wires attach to (the wires come into the bottom of the box, not the top)






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    • Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

      – Brandon K
      Jan 21 at 14:30











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    This should definitely be redone with a standard 14/3 NM-B cable



    Whoever installed this lightswitch used the first thing they could get their hands on, apparently SPT-2 parallel cordage of some sort, instead of NM cable. As a result, there is no ground in this box at the moment, nor is their a neutral, which is now a requirement to provide at switch locations to accommodate smart switches and such.



    As a result, the entire cable that connects this switch to the fixture it controls needs to be replaced with a 14/3 NM cable -- black goes to always-hot in the vent-fan box, red goes to the vent fan hot, white goes in with the neutral bundle that the fan connects to, and bare goes to the ground bundle. In the switch box, bare goes to the green ground screw on the switch, black goes to one switch terminal, red goes to the other switch terminal, and white simply gets capped off with a wirenut as it's not used for a "dumb" mechanical switch that simply sits in the circuit hot and breaks it.



    This is also a sign of further trouble lurking



    This sort of sloppy work in one place means one thing: that there's probably more trouble lurking where you cannot see. Do not be surprised if you see more flagrant Code violations during further work. If you have a friendly electrician at hand, you may wish to call them in and go on a Code-violation scavenger hunt through your house with them, even.






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    • Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

      – sleblanc
      Jan 21 at 7:32






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      @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

      – ratchet freak
      Jan 21 at 9:24











    • Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

      – Brandon K
      Jan 21 at 14:24
















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    This should definitely be redone with a standard 14/3 NM-B cable



    Whoever installed this lightswitch used the first thing they could get their hands on, apparently SPT-2 parallel cordage of some sort, instead of NM cable. As a result, there is no ground in this box at the moment, nor is their a neutral, which is now a requirement to provide at switch locations to accommodate smart switches and such.



    As a result, the entire cable that connects this switch to the fixture it controls needs to be replaced with a 14/3 NM cable -- black goes to always-hot in the vent-fan box, red goes to the vent fan hot, white goes in with the neutral bundle that the fan connects to, and bare goes to the ground bundle. In the switch box, bare goes to the green ground screw on the switch, black goes to one switch terminal, red goes to the other switch terminal, and white simply gets capped off with a wirenut as it's not used for a "dumb" mechanical switch that simply sits in the circuit hot and breaks it.



    This is also a sign of further trouble lurking



    This sort of sloppy work in one place means one thing: that there's probably more trouble lurking where you cannot see. Do not be surprised if you see more flagrant Code violations during further work. If you have a friendly electrician at hand, you may wish to call them in and go on a Code-violation scavenger hunt through your house with them, even.






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    • Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

      – sleblanc
      Jan 21 at 7:32






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      @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

      – ratchet freak
      Jan 21 at 9:24











    • Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

      – Brandon K
      Jan 21 at 14:24














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    This should definitely be redone with a standard 14/3 NM-B cable



    Whoever installed this lightswitch used the first thing they could get their hands on, apparently SPT-2 parallel cordage of some sort, instead of NM cable. As a result, there is no ground in this box at the moment, nor is their a neutral, which is now a requirement to provide at switch locations to accommodate smart switches and such.



    As a result, the entire cable that connects this switch to the fixture it controls needs to be replaced with a 14/3 NM cable -- black goes to always-hot in the vent-fan box, red goes to the vent fan hot, white goes in with the neutral bundle that the fan connects to, and bare goes to the ground bundle. In the switch box, bare goes to the green ground screw on the switch, black goes to one switch terminal, red goes to the other switch terminal, and white simply gets capped off with a wirenut as it's not used for a "dumb" mechanical switch that simply sits in the circuit hot and breaks it.



    This is also a sign of further trouble lurking



    This sort of sloppy work in one place means one thing: that there's probably more trouble lurking where you cannot see. Do not be surprised if you see more flagrant Code violations during further work. If you have a friendly electrician at hand, you may wish to call them in and go on a Code-violation scavenger hunt through your house with them, even.






    share|improve this answer













    This should definitely be redone with a standard 14/3 NM-B cable



    Whoever installed this lightswitch used the first thing they could get their hands on, apparently SPT-2 parallel cordage of some sort, instead of NM cable. As a result, there is no ground in this box at the moment, nor is their a neutral, which is now a requirement to provide at switch locations to accommodate smart switches and such.



    As a result, the entire cable that connects this switch to the fixture it controls needs to be replaced with a 14/3 NM cable -- black goes to always-hot in the vent-fan box, red goes to the vent fan hot, white goes in with the neutral bundle that the fan connects to, and bare goes to the ground bundle. In the switch box, bare goes to the green ground screw on the switch, black goes to one switch terminal, red goes to the other switch terminal, and white simply gets capped off with a wirenut as it's not used for a "dumb" mechanical switch that simply sits in the circuit hot and breaks it.



    This is also a sign of further trouble lurking



    This sort of sloppy work in one place means one thing: that there's probably more trouble lurking where you cannot see. Do not be surprised if you see more flagrant Code violations during further work. If you have a friendly electrician at hand, you may wish to call them in and go on a Code-violation scavenger hunt through your house with them, even.







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    • Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

      – sleblanc
      Jan 21 at 7:32






    • 1





      @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

      – ratchet freak
      Jan 21 at 9:24











    • Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

      – Brandon K
      Jan 21 at 14:24



















    • Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

      – sleblanc
      Jan 21 at 7:32






    • 1





      @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

      – ratchet freak
      Jan 21 at 9:24











    • Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

      – Brandon K
      Jan 21 at 14:24

















    Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

    – sleblanc
    Jan 21 at 7:32





    Does the requirement for neutral have an impact on safety too, or is it purely a commercial factor? I cannot see how the requirement for neutral can be enforced unless you are building a new house.

    – sleblanc
    Jan 21 at 7:32




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    @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

    – ratchet freak
    Jan 21 at 9:24





    @sleblanc that's only a commercial factor and indeed only required when feasable. Running a new switch-loop wire would be a time where you have to run the 14/3 instead of only the 14/2

    – ratchet freak
    Jan 21 at 9:24













    Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 14:24





    Thanks for putting this answer out here! There are a few areas in my house that may have something incorrect like this, but for the most part, everything I've touched so far has been original with the house, at least it looks that way.

    – Brandon K
    Jan 21 at 14:24













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    It looks like someone has used lamp cord here. It should be pulled out, and redone with Romex, or whatever is legal where you live.






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      It looks like someone has used lamp cord here. It should be pulled out, and redone with Romex, or whatever is legal where you live.






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        It looks like someone has used lamp cord here. It should be pulled out, and redone with Romex, or whatever is legal where you live.






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        It looks like someone has used lamp cord here. It should be pulled out, and redone with Romex, or whatever is legal where you live.







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            I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling.




            The good news here is that, whomever did this, used an "old work" box to add this switch. See the screw in the top right and bottom left of the box face? If you unscrew those, the box will come loose and you can pull it back out of the hole (the screws attach to tabs that flip up and grab the backside of the drywall). This will make re-running the wires MUCH easier, since it's likely they just fished the wires up from whatever the wires attach to (the wires come into the bottom of the box, not the top)






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            • Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

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            I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling.




            The good news here is that, whomever did this, used an "old work" box to add this switch. See the screw in the top right and bottom left of the box face? If you unscrew those, the box will come loose and you can pull it back out of the hole (the screws attach to tabs that flip up and grab the backside of the drywall). This will make re-running the wires MUCH easier, since it's likely they just fished the wires up from whatever the wires attach to (the wires come into the bottom of the box, not the top)






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            • Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

              – Brandon K
              Jan 21 at 14:30














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            I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling.




            The good news here is that, whomever did this, used an "old work" box to add this switch. See the screw in the top right and bottom left of the box face? If you unscrew those, the box will come loose and you can pull it back out of the hole (the screws attach to tabs that flip up and grab the backside of the drywall). This will make re-running the wires MUCH easier, since it's likely they just fished the wires up from whatever the wires attach to (the wires come into the bottom of the box, not the top)






            share|improve this answer














            I'm a little afraid to pull it out as I believe the wires will not stay in place/can bare any weight without dangling.




            The good news here is that, whomever did this, used an "old work" box to add this switch. See the screw in the top right and bottom left of the box face? If you unscrew those, the box will come loose and you can pull it back out of the hole (the screws attach to tabs that flip up and grab the backside of the drywall). This will make re-running the wires MUCH easier, since it's likely they just fished the wires up from whatever the wires attach to (the wires come into the bottom of the box, not the top)







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            answered Jan 21 at 13:59









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            • Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

              – Brandon K
              Jan 21 at 14:30



















            • Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

              – Brandon K
              Jan 21 at 14:30

















            Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

            – Brandon K
            Jan 21 at 14:30





            Yes, that does seem like it would make it easier. Just not something I was hoping to do. I'll need to figure out how to take out the fan and replace the wire. I'm imagining that wiring is gonna look ugly, just like at the switch. Or who knows, maybe even the light may have some bad wiring done too. May just get an electrician to deal with it.

            – Brandon K
            Jan 21 at 14:30


















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