Is $C^1([a,b], mathbb{R}^n)$ a reflexive Banach space?












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I want to prove or disprove that $C^1([a,b], mathbb{R}^n)$ equipped with the norm $||x||=underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|x(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}+underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|dot{x}(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}$ is a reflexive Banach space.



I figured out that it is indeed a Banach space, but I'm stuck on the reflexive part. I know that a Banach space $X$ is reflexive if the mapping $F: X rightarrow X''$ is surjective, where $X''$ is the second dual space of $X$.



However, I have the feeling that this space is not reflexive, but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Is it indeed true that this space is not reflexive?






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    A proof is outlined here, although you'll have to put some pieces together: math.stackexchange.com/questions/891862/…
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I want to prove or disprove that $C^1([a,b], mathbb{R}^n)$ equipped with the norm $||x||=underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|x(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}+underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|dot{x}(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}$ is a reflexive Banach space.



I figured out that it is indeed a Banach space, but I'm stuck on the reflexive part. I know that a Banach space $X$ is reflexive if the mapping $F: X rightarrow X''$ is surjective, where $X''$ is the second dual space of $X$.



However, I have the feeling that this space is not reflexive, but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Is it indeed true that this space is not reflexive?






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    A proof is outlined here, although you'll have to put some pieces together: math.stackexchange.com/questions/891862/…
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    – Olivier Moschetta
    Nov 27 '18 at 19:11














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I want to prove or disprove that $C^1([a,b], mathbb{R}^n)$ equipped with the norm $||x||=underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|x(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}+underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|dot{x}(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}$ is a reflexive Banach space.



I figured out that it is indeed a Banach space, but I'm stuck on the reflexive part. I know that a Banach space $X$ is reflexive if the mapping $F: X rightarrow X''$ is surjective, where $X''$ is the second dual space of $X$.



However, I have the feeling that this space is not reflexive, but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Is it indeed true that this space is not reflexive?






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I want to prove or disprove that $C^1([a,b], mathbb{R}^n)$ equipped with the norm $||x||=underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|x(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}+underset{tin[a,b]}{sup}|dot{x}(t)|_{mathbb{R}^n}$ is a reflexive Banach space.



I figured out that it is indeed a Banach space, but I'm stuck on the reflexive part. I know that a Banach space $X$ is reflexive if the mapping $F: X rightarrow X''$ is surjective, where $X''$ is the second dual space of $X$.



However, I have the feeling that this space is not reflexive, but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Is it indeed true that this space is not reflexive?






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  • $begingroup$
    A proof is outlined here, although you'll have to put some pieces together: math.stackexchange.com/questions/891862/…
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    – Olivier Moschetta
    Nov 27 '18 at 19:11


















  • $begingroup$
    A proof is outlined here, although you'll have to put some pieces together: math.stackexchange.com/questions/891862/…
    $endgroup$
    – Olivier Moschetta
    Nov 27 '18 at 19:11
















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A proof is outlined here, although you'll have to put some pieces together: math.stackexchange.com/questions/891862/…
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– Olivier Moschetta
Nov 27 '18 at 19:11




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A proof is outlined here, although you'll have to put some pieces together: math.stackexchange.com/questions/891862/…
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There's a standard theorem that for any Banach space $X$, if $X'$ is separable then so is $X$. Hence, if $X''$ is separable then so is $X'$.



It is not so hard to show that if $X = C^1([a,b])$, then $X'$ is not separable. (I'll take $n=1$.) For instance, for any $t in [a,b]$, consider the linear functional $ell_t(x) = dot{x}(t)$. You can check that it is continuous, and that $|ell_t - ell_s|_{X'} = 2$ for any $s ne t$. Hence there is an uncountable closed discrete set in $X'$.



You can also check that $X$ itself is separable (using some version of Stone-Weierstrass). So if $X$ were reflexive, then $X'' = X$ would be separable, hence $X'$ would also be separable, but it isn't.






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    We can embed $Y = C([a,b],mathbb R)$ into $X = C^1([a,b], mathbb R^n)$ by
    $T(f)(x) = int_a^x f(t); dt; {bf u}$ where $bf u$ is some nonzero vector in $mathbb R^n$. Then $T^{**}$ embeds $Y^{**}$ into $X^{**}$. But $Y^{**}$ is not separable, therefore $X^{**}$ is not separable, but $X$ is separable, so $X$ is not reflexive.






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      There's a standard theorem that for any Banach space $X$, if $X'$ is separable then so is $X$. Hence, if $X''$ is separable then so is $X'$.



      It is not so hard to show that if $X = C^1([a,b])$, then $X'$ is not separable. (I'll take $n=1$.) For instance, for any $t in [a,b]$, consider the linear functional $ell_t(x) = dot{x}(t)$. You can check that it is continuous, and that $|ell_t - ell_s|_{X'} = 2$ for any $s ne t$. Hence there is an uncountable closed discrete set in $X'$.



      You can also check that $X$ itself is separable (using some version of Stone-Weierstrass). So if $X$ were reflexive, then $X'' = X$ would be separable, hence $X'$ would also be separable, but it isn't.






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        There's a standard theorem that for any Banach space $X$, if $X'$ is separable then so is $X$. Hence, if $X''$ is separable then so is $X'$.



        It is not so hard to show that if $X = C^1([a,b])$, then $X'$ is not separable. (I'll take $n=1$.) For instance, for any $t in [a,b]$, consider the linear functional $ell_t(x) = dot{x}(t)$. You can check that it is continuous, and that $|ell_t - ell_s|_{X'} = 2$ for any $s ne t$. Hence there is an uncountable closed discrete set in $X'$.



        You can also check that $X$ itself is separable (using some version of Stone-Weierstrass). So if $X$ were reflexive, then $X'' = X$ would be separable, hence $X'$ would also be separable, but it isn't.






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          There's a standard theorem that for any Banach space $X$, if $X'$ is separable then so is $X$. Hence, if $X''$ is separable then so is $X'$.



          It is not so hard to show that if $X = C^1([a,b])$, then $X'$ is not separable. (I'll take $n=1$.) For instance, for any $t in [a,b]$, consider the linear functional $ell_t(x) = dot{x}(t)$. You can check that it is continuous, and that $|ell_t - ell_s|_{X'} = 2$ for any $s ne t$. Hence there is an uncountable closed discrete set in $X'$.



          You can also check that $X$ itself is separable (using some version of Stone-Weierstrass). So if $X$ were reflexive, then $X'' = X$ would be separable, hence $X'$ would also be separable, but it isn't.






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          There's a standard theorem that for any Banach space $X$, if $X'$ is separable then so is $X$. Hence, if $X''$ is separable then so is $X'$.



          It is not so hard to show that if $X = C^1([a,b])$, then $X'$ is not separable. (I'll take $n=1$.) For instance, for any $t in [a,b]$, consider the linear functional $ell_t(x) = dot{x}(t)$. You can check that it is continuous, and that $|ell_t - ell_s|_{X'} = 2$ for any $s ne t$. Hence there is an uncountable closed discrete set in $X'$.



          You can also check that $X$ itself is separable (using some version of Stone-Weierstrass). So if $X$ were reflexive, then $X'' = X$ would be separable, hence $X'$ would also be separable, but it isn't.







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              We can embed $Y = C([a,b],mathbb R)$ into $X = C^1([a,b], mathbb R^n)$ by
              $T(f)(x) = int_a^x f(t); dt; {bf u}$ where $bf u$ is some nonzero vector in $mathbb R^n$. Then $T^{**}$ embeds $Y^{**}$ into $X^{**}$. But $Y^{**}$ is not separable, therefore $X^{**}$ is not separable, but $X$ is separable, so $X$ is not reflexive.






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                We can embed $Y = C([a,b],mathbb R)$ into $X = C^1([a,b], mathbb R^n)$ by
                $T(f)(x) = int_a^x f(t); dt; {bf u}$ where $bf u$ is some nonzero vector in $mathbb R^n$. Then $T^{**}$ embeds $Y^{**}$ into $X^{**}$. But $Y^{**}$ is not separable, therefore $X^{**}$ is not separable, but $X$ is separable, so $X$ is not reflexive.






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                  We can embed $Y = C([a,b],mathbb R)$ into $X = C^1([a,b], mathbb R^n)$ by
                  $T(f)(x) = int_a^x f(t); dt; {bf u}$ where $bf u$ is some nonzero vector in $mathbb R^n$. Then $T^{**}$ embeds $Y^{**}$ into $X^{**}$. But $Y^{**}$ is not separable, therefore $X^{**}$ is not separable, but $X$ is separable, so $X$ is not reflexive.






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                  We can embed $Y = C([a,b],mathbb R)$ into $X = C^1([a,b], mathbb R^n)$ by
                  $T(f)(x) = int_a^x f(t); dt; {bf u}$ where $bf u$ is some nonzero vector in $mathbb R^n$. Then $T^{**}$ embeds $Y^{**}$ into $X^{**}$. But $Y^{**}$ is not separable, therefore $X^{**}$ is not separable, but $X$ is separable, so $X$ is not reflexive.







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