Understanding the Euler function
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It should be very basic and simple question related to the Euler function $phi$. If I would like to calculate for example $phi(100)$ I saw that we can write it as $phi(2^2cdot 5^2)$. Also I saw a theorem that says $phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are prime numbers. So we get $phi(100)=phi(2)phi(2)phi(5)phi(5)=1cdot 1cdot 4cdot 4=16$, But it isn't true because I know that $phi(100)=40$. What is the right why to dismantle $100$ so we can use the euler function?
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It should be very basic and simple question related to the Euler function $phi$. If I would like to calculate for example $phi(100)$ I saw that we can write it as $phi(2^2cdot 5^2)$. Also I saw a theorem that says $phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are prime numbers. So we get $phi(100)=phi(2)phi(2)phi(5)phi(5)=1cdot 1cdot 4cdot 4=16$, But it isn't true because I know that $phi(100)=40$. What is the right why to dismantle $100$ so we can use the euler function?
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ is true when $a,b$ are coprime.
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– Eclipse Sun
Nov 24 '18 at 22:12
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are relatively prime, so $phi(100)=phi(4)phi(25)$
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– saulspatz
Nov 24 '18 at 22:13
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It should be very basic and simple question related to the Euler function $phi$. If I would like to calculate for example $phi(100)$ I saw that we can write it as $phi(2^2cdot 5^2)$. Also I saw a theorem that says $phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are prime numbers. So we get $phi(100)=phi(2)phi(2)phi(5)phi(5)=1cdot 1cdot 4cdot 4=16$, But it isn't true because I know that $phi(100)=40$. What is the right why to dismantle $100$ so we can use the euler function?
group-theory
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It should be very basic and simple question related to the Euler function $phi$. If I would like to calculate for example $phi(100)$ I saw that we can write it as $phi(2^2cdot 5^2)$. Also I saw a theorem that says $phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are prime numbers. So we get $phi(100)=phi(2)phi(2)phi(5)phi(5)=1cdot 1cdot 4cdot 4=16$, But it isn't true because I know that $phi(100)=40$. What is the right why to dismantle $100$ so we can use the euler function?
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ is true when $a,b$ are coprime.
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– Eclipse Sun
Nov 24 '18 at 22:12
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are relatively prime, so $phi(100)=phi(4)phi(25)$
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– saulspatz
Nov 24 '18 at 22:13
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ is true when $a,b$ are coprime.
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– Eclipse Sun
Nov 24 '18 at 22:12
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are relatively prime, so $phi(100)=phi(4)phi(25)$
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– saulspatz
Nov 24 '18 at 22:13
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ is true when $a,b$ are coprime.
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– Eclipse Sun
Nov 24 '18 at 22:12
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ is true when $a,b$ are coprime.
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– Eclipse Sun
Nov 24 '18 at 22:12
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are relatively prime, so $phi(100)=phi(4)phi(25)$
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– saulspatz
Nov 24 '18 at 22:13
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are relatively prime, so $phi(100)=phi(4)phi(25)$
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We write $100$ as $2^2times5^2$. Then, since $gcd(2^2,5^2)=1$,$$phi(2^2times5^2)=phi(2^2)timesphi(5^2).$$And, for any prime $p$, $phi(p^n)=p^n-p^{n-1}=left(1-frac1pright)p^n$. So, $phi(2^2)=2$ and $phi(5^2)=20$. Therefore, $phi(100)=2times20=40$.
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$phi(100) = phi(5^2 . 2^2) = phi(2^2) phi(5^2) = 2 times (25-20) = 40$
Recall that:
$phi(ab) = phi(a)phi(b) iff a$ and $b$ are coprime i.e $gcd(a,b) = 1$.
$phi(p^a) = p^{a-1}(p-1)$.
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We write $100$ as $2^2times5^2$. Then, since $gcd(2^2,5^2)=1$,$$phi(2^2times5^2)=phi(2^2)timesphi(5^2).$$And, for any prime $p$, $phi(p^n)=p^n-p^{n-1}=left(1-frac1pright)p^n$. So, $phi(2^2)=2$ and $phi(5^2)=20$. Therefore, $phi(100)=2times20=40$.
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We write $100$ as $2^2times5^2$. Then, since $gcd(2^2,5^2)=1$,$$phi(2^2times5^2)=phi(2^2)timesphi(5^2).$$And, for any prime $p$, $phi(p^n)=p^n-p^{n-1}=left(1-frac1pright)p^n$. So, $phi(2^2)=2$ and $phi(5^2)=20$. Therefore, $phi(100)=2times20=40$.
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We write $100$ as $2^2times5^2$. Then, since $gcd(2^2,5^2)=1$,$$phi(2^2times5^2)=phi(2^2)timesphi(5^2).$$And, for any prime $p$, $phi(p^n)=p^n-p^{n-1}=left(1-frac1pright)p^n$. So, $phi(2^2)=2$ and $phi(5^2)=20$. Therefore, $phi(100)=2times20=40$.
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We write $100$ as $2^2times5^2$. Then, since $gcd(2^2,5^2)=1$,$$phi(2^2times5^2)=phi(2^2)timesphi(5^2).$$And, for any prime $p$, $phi(p^n)=p^n-p^{n-1}=left(1-frac1pright)p^n$. So, $phi(2^2)=2$ and $phi(5^2)=20$. Therefore, $phi(100)=2times20=40$.
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$phi(100) = phi(5^2 . 2^2) = phi(2^2) phi(5^2) = 2 times (25-20) = 40$
Recall that:
$phi(ab) = phi(a)phi(b) iff a$ and $b$ are coprime i.e $gcd(a,b) = 1$.
$phi(p^a) = p^{a-1}(p-1)$.
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$phi(100) = phi(5^2 . 2^2) = phi(2^2) phi(5^2) = 2 times (25-20) = 40$
Recall that:
$phi(ab) = phi(a)phi(b) iff a$ and $b$ are coprime i.e $gcd(a,b) = 1$.
$phi(p^a) = p^{a-1}(p-1)$.
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$phi(100) = phi(5^2 . 2^2) = phi(2^2) phi(5^2) = 2 times (25-20) = 40$
Recall that:
$phi(ab) = phi(a)phi(b) iff a$ and $b$ are coprime i.e $gcd(a,b) = 1$.
$phi(p^a) = p^{a-1}(p-1)$.
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$phi(100) = phi(5^2 . 2^2) = phi(2^2) phi(5^2) = 2 times (25-20) = 40$
Recall that:
$phi(ab) = phi(a)phi(b) iff a$ and $b$ are coprime i.e $gcd(a,b) = 1$.
$phi(p^a) = p^{a-1}(p-1)$.
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ is true when $a,b$ are coprime.
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$phi(acdot b) = phi(a)cdot phi(b)$ if $a,b$ are relatively prime, so $phi(100)=phi(4)phi(25)$
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– saulspatz
Nov 24 '18 at 22:13