Is there a way for an arcane caster to learn Produce Flame?











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I like the spell produce flame for flavor reasons, but it seems to be available only to Druids. Is there a way for an arcane caster (particularly a wizard or sorcerer) to acquire it in such a way that they could cast it using their intelligence/charisma? If I understand correctly, if I multiclassed as a druid, I could pick up the cantrip, but it would be cast with Wisdom, which isn't a desirable option in this case.










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    Your last question about balance needs to be asked as a separate question. A specific question about houseruling a specific spell onto a list is different from asking how you can learn a spell according to the rules.
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I like the spell produce flame for flavor reasons, but it seems to be available only to Druids. Is there a way for an arcane caster (particularly a wizard or sorcerer) to acquire it in such a way that they could cast it using their intelligence/charisma? If I understand correctly, if I multiclassed as a druid, I could pick up the cantrip, but it would be cast with Wisdom, which isn't a desirable option in this case.










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    Your last question about balance needs to be asked as a separate question. A specific question about houseruling a specific spell onto a list is different from asking how you can learn a spell according to the rules.
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I like the spell produce flame for flavor reasons, but it seems to be available only to Druids. Is there a way for an arcane caster (particularly a wizard or sorcerer) to acquire it in such a way that they could cast it using their intelligence/charisma? If I understand correctly, if I multiclassed as a druid, I could pick up the cantrip, but it would be cast with Wisdom, which isn't a desirable option in this case.










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I like the spell produce flame for flavor reasons, but it seems to be available only to Druids. Is there a way for an arcane caster (particularly a wizard or sorcerer) to acquire it in such a way that they could cast it using their intelligence/charisma? If I understand correctly, if I multiclassed as a druid, I could pick up the cantrip, but it would be cast with Wisdom, which isn't a desirable option in this case.







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    Your last question about balance needs to be asked as a separate question. A specific question about houseruling a specific spell onto a list is different from asking how you can learn a spell according to the rules.
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    Your last question about balance needs to be asked as a separate question. A specific question about houseruling a specific spell onto a list is different from asking how you can learn a spell according to the rules.
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Your last question about balance needs to be asked as a separate question. A specific question about houseruling a specific spell onto a list is different from asking how you can learn a spell according to the rules.
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Your last question about balance needs to be asked as a separate question. A specific question about houseruling a specific spell onto a list is different from asking how you can learn a spell according to the rules.
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A Warlock with Pact of the Tome can add Produce Flame to their Book of Shadows as a Warlock cantrip. I'm not aware of another way to get the spell to be on your class list without being a Druid or Nature Cleric (who also can learn Druid cantrips).



Produce Flame is basically a weaker version of Light combined with a weaker version of Firebolt. You could easily style your light spell to be flames emanating from a ring your character wears, for example, which would produce a similar, but stronger effect.






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    +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
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Multiclass as Lore Bard



You can multiclass into bard and pick the College of Lore subclass. This is an extreme method, as it requires you to put 6 levels into bard, but it does give you the Additional Magical Secrets feature:




At 6th level, you learn two spells of your choice from any class. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip. The chosen spells count as bard spells for you but don’t count against the number of bard spells you know.




This will allow you to pick up the produce flame cantrip and cast using your Charisma instead of the Druid's Wisdom.






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    As far as I know, there is no way to cast Produce Flame as a Wizard spell, i.e. using your Intelligence Modifier.



    There are a lot of ways for a Wizard to learn Produce Flame, and some of them let you use Charisma as the spellcasting modifier instead of Wisdom.



    Multiclass as a Druid



    Self-explanatory. One level of Druid will let you choose some Druid cantrips, which will include Produce Flame if you so choose.



    Multiclass as a Bard



    This is a bit more difficult since you'll need to invest at least 10 levels (or 6 as a Lore Bard) but you'll be able to learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame.



    Multiclass as a Warlock



    Warlocks can also learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame by taking the Pact of the Tome as their level 3 option, and adding Produce Flame as one of their cantrips gained through this feature. Easier than the Bard option in terms of raw levels spent.



    Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Magic Initiate feat



    The Magic Initiate feat can be taken to gain access to Druid Cantrips/a single 1st level spell, which is like multiclassing into Druid but without sacrificing any valuable Wizard features.



    Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Spell Sniper feat



    Like the Magic Initiate feat. The advantage to this version is that it also doubles the range of all your attack-roll based spells. The disadvantage is that it only gives you the one cantrip of your choice (Produce Flame, in this case) and doesn't give you any other cantrips or spells, like you'd get from other options.






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      I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
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      They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
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    Fire Genasi, a race found in the Elemental Evil Player's Companion, have the produce flame cantrip as a racial trait. This would use your Constitution rather than Intelligence or Charisma, so it doesn't match your parameters precisely.



    Fire Genasi make good wizards with their +1 Intelligence, and +2 Constitution will help your Produce Flame be as effective as possible.






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      As with most things, talk to your DM



      Others have covered RAW methods (e.g. multiclass into lore bard or warlock), but if this really is for flavor and your game has heavily story-driven RP like mine, then the best option is to talk to your DM.



      My DM allowed me to teach our Druid the spell light because it made sense narratively that I would have tried to teach her a spell. Justification being that Cantrips are meant to be either simple or well-known spells that can be performed as training exercises or without thought.






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        A Warlock with Pact of the Tome can add Produce Flame to their Book of Shadows as a Warlock cantrip. I'm not aware of another way to get the spell to be on your class list without being a Druid or Nature Cleric (who also can learn Druid cantrips).



        Produce Flame is basically a weaker version of Light combined with a weaker version of Firebolt. You could easily style your light spell to be flames emanating from a ring your character wears, for example, which would produce a similar, but stronger effect.






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          +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
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        A Warlock with Pact of the Tome can add Produce Flame to their Book of Shadows as a Warlock cantrip. I'm not aware of another way to get the spell to be on your class list without being a Druid or Nature Cleric (who also can learn Druid cantrips).



        Produce Flame is basically a weaker version of Light combined with a weaker version of Firebolt. You could easily style your light spell to be flames emanating from a ring your character wears, for example, which would produce a similar, but stronger effect.






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          +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
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        A Warlock with Pact of the Tome can add Produce Flame to their Book of Shadows as a Warlock cantrip. I'm not aware of another way to get the spell to be on your class list without being a Druid or Nature Cleric (who also can learn Druid cantrips).



        Produce Flame is basically a weaker version of Light combined with a weaker version of Firebolt. You could easily style your light spell to be flames emanating from a ring your character wears, for example, which would produce a similar, but stronger effect.






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        A Warlock with Pact of the Tome can add Produce Flame to their Book of Shadows as a Warlock cantrip. I'm not aware of another way to get the spell to be on your class list without being a Druid or Nature Cleric (who also can learn Druid cantrips).



        Produce Flame is basically a weaker version of Light combined with a weaker version of Firebolt. You could easily style your light spell to be flames emanating from a ring your character wears, for example, which would produce a similar, but stronger effect.







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          +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
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          +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
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        +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
        – David Coffron
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        +1 for reflavouring light may want to note that you can't dismiss light for free as you hurl the firebolt to simulate the throwing effect of produce flame, so you'd still have a light source after "throwing" it (unless the GM allows otherwise)
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        Multiclass as Lore Bard



        You can multiclass into bard and pick the College of Lore subclass. This is an extreme method, as it requires you to put 6 levels into bard, but it does give you the Additional Magical Secrets feature:




        At 6th level, you learn two spells of your choice from any class. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip. The chosen spells count as bard spells for you but don’t count against the number of bard spells you know.




        This will allow you to pick up the produce flame cantrip and cast using your Charisma instead of the Druid's Wisdom.






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          Multiclass as Lore Bard



          You can multiclass into bard and pick the College of Lore subclass. This is an extreme method, as it requires you to put 6 levels into bard, but it does give you the Additional Magical Secrets feature:




          At 6th level, you learn two spells of your choice from any class. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip. The chosen spells count as bard spells for you but don’t count against the number of bard spells you know.




          This will allow you to pick up the produce flame cantrip and cast using your Charisma instead of the Druid's Wisdom.






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            Multiclass as Lore Bard



            You can multiclass into bard and pick the College of Lore subclass. This is an extreme method, as it requires you to put 6 levels into bard, but it does give you the Additional Magical Secrets feature:




            At 6th level, you learn two spells of your choice from any class. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip. The chosen spells count as bard spells for you but don’t count against the number of bard spells you know.




            This will allow you to pick up the produce flame cantrip and cast using your Charisma instead of the Druid's Wisdom.






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            Multiclass as Lore Bard



            You can multiclass into bard and pick the College of Lore subclass. This is an extreme method, as it requires you to put 6 levels into bard, but it does give you the Additional Magical Secrets feature:




            At 6th level, you learn two spells of your choice from any class. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip. The chosen spells count as bard spells for you but don’t count against the number of bard spells you know.




            This will allow you to pick up the produce flame cantrip and cast using your Charisma instead of the Druid's Wisdom.







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                As far as I know, there is no way to cast Produce Flame as a Wizard spell, i.e. using your Intelligence Modifier.



                There are a lot of ways for a Wizard to learn Produce Flame, and some of them let you use Charisma as the spellcasting modifier instead of Wisdom.



                Multiclass as a Druid



                Self-explanatory. One level of Druid will let you choose some Druid cantrips, which will include Produce Flame if you so choose.



                Multiclass as a Bard



                This is a bit more difficult since you'll need to invest at least 10 levels (or 6 as a Lore Bard) but you'll be able to learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame.



                Multiclass as a Warlock



                Warlocks can also learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame by taking the Pact of the Tome as their level 3 option, and adding Produce Flame as one of their cantrips gained through this feature. Easier than the Bard option in terms of raw levels spent.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Magic Initiate feat



                The Magic Initiate feat can be taken to gain access to Druid Cantrips/a single 1st level spell, which is like multiclassing into Druid but without sacrificing any valuable Wizard features.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Spell Sniper feat



                Like the Magic Initiate feat. The advantage to this version is that it also doubles the range of all your attack-roll based spells. The disadvantage is that it only gives you the one cantrip of your choice (Produce Flame, in this case) and doesn't give you any other cantrips or spells, like you'd get from other options.






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                  I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
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                  Nov 16 at 17:06






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                  They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
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                As far as I know, there is no way to cast Produce Flame as a Wizard spell, i.e. using your Intelligence Modifier.



                There are a lot of ways for a Wizard to learn Produce Flame, and some of them let you use Charisma as the spellcasting modifier instead of Wisdom.



                Multiclass as a Druid



                Self-explanatory. One level of Druid will let you choose some Druid cantrips, which will include Produce Flame if you so choose.



                Multiclass as a Bard



                This is a bit more difficult since you'll need to invest at least 10 levels (or 6 as a Lore Bard) but you'll be able to learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame.



                Multiclass as a Warlock



                Warlocks can also learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame by taking the Pact of the Tome as their level 3 option, and adding Produce Flame as one of their cantrips gained through this feature. Easier than the Bard option in terms of raw levels spent.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Magic Initiate feat



                The Magic Initiate feat can be taken to gain access to Druid Cantrips/a single 1st level spell, which is like multiclassing into Druid but without sacrificing any valuable Wizard features.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Spell Sniper feat



                Like the Magic Initiate feat. The advantage to this version is that it also doubles the range of all your attack-roll based spells. The disadvantage is that it only gives you the one cantrip of your choice (Produce Flame, in this case) and doesn't give you any other cantrips or spells, like you'd get from other options.






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                  I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
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                  Nov 16 at 17:06






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                  They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
                  – J. A. Streich
                  Nov 16 at 17:42













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                As far as I know, there is no way to cast Produce Flame as a Wizard spell, i.e. using your Intelligence Modifier.



                There are a lot of ways for a Wizard to learn Produce Flame, and some of them let you use Charisma as the spellcasting modifier instead of Wisdom.



                Multiclass as a Druid



                Self-explanatory. One level of Druid will let you choose some Druid cantrips, which will include Produce Flame if you so choose.



                Multiclass as a Bard



                This is a bit more difficult since you'll need to invest at least 10 levels (or 6 as a Lore Bard) but you'll be able to learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame.



                Multiclass as a Warlock



                Warlocks can also learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame by taking the Pact of the Tome as their level 3 option, and adding Produce Flame as one of their cantrips gained through this feature. Easier than the Bard option in terms of raw levels spent.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Magic Initiate feat



                The Magic Initiate feat can be taken to gain access to Druid Cantrips/a single 1st level spell, which is like multiclassing into Druid but without sacrificing any valuable Wizard features.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Spell Sniper feat



                Like the Magic Initiate feat. The advantage to this version is that it also doubles the range of all your attack-roll based spells. The disadvantage is that it only gives you the one cantrip of your choice (Produce Flame, in this case) and doesn't give you any other cantrips or spells, like you'd get from other options.






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                As far as I know, there is no way to cast Produce Flame as a Wizard spell, i.e. using your Intelligence Modifier.



                There are a lot of ways for a Wizard to learn Produce Flame, and some of them let you use Charisma as the spellcasting modifier instead of Wisdom.



                Multiclass as a Druid



                Self-explanatory. One level of Druid will let you choose some Druid cantrips, which will include Produce Flame if you so choose.



                Multiclass as a Bard



                This is a bit more difficult since you'll need to invest at least 10 levels (or 6 as a Lore Bard) but you'll be able to learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame.



                Multiclass as a Warlock



                Warlocks can also learn a Charisma-based version of Produce Flame by taking the Pact of the Tome as their level 3 option, and adding Produce Flame as one of their cantrips gained through this feature. Easier than the Bard option in terms of raw levels spent.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Magic Initiate feat



                The Magic Initiate feat can be taken to gain access to Druid Cantrips/a single 1st level spell, which is like multiclassing into Druid but without sacrificing any valuable Wizard features.



                Replace an Ability Score Increase with the Spell Sniper feat



                Like the Magic Initiate feat. The advantage to this version is that it also doubles the range of all your attack-roll based spells. The disadvantage is that it only gives you the one cantrip of your choice (Produce Flame, in this case) and doesn't give you any other cantrips or spells, like you'd get from other options.







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                  I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
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                  They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
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                  I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
                  – FrazzleUK
                  Nov 16 at 17:06






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                  They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
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                  Nov 16 at 17:42








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                I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
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                I dont think Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper would allow the spell to be cast with INT or CHA though?
                – FrazzleUK
                Nov 16 at 17:06




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                They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
                – J. A. Streich
                Nov 16 at 17:42




                They do not. They are the spellcasting ability of the class the spells were borrowed from.
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                Fire Genasi, a race found in the Elemental Evil Player's Companion, have the produce flame cantrip as a racial trait. This would use your Constitution rather than Intelligence or Charisma, so it doesn't match your parameters precisely.



                Fire Genasi make good wizards with their +1 Intelligence, and +2 Constitution will help your Produce Flame be as effective as possible.






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                  Fire Genasi, a race found in the Elemental Evil Player's Companion, have the produce flame cantrip as a racial trait. This would use your Constitution rather than Intelligence or Charisma, so it doesn't match your parameters precisely.



                  Fire Genasi make good wizards with their +1 Intelligence, and +2 Constitution will help your Produce Flame be as effective as possible.






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                    Fire Genasi, a race found in the Elemental Evil Player's Companion, have the produce flame cantrip as a racial trait. This would use your Constitution rather than Intelligence or Charisma, so it doesn't match your parameters precisely.



                    Fire Genasi make good wizards with their +1 Intelligence, and +2 Constitution will help your Produce Flame be as effective as possible.






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                    Fire Genasi, a race found in the Elemental Evil Player's Companion, have the produce flame cantrip as a racial trait. This would use your Constitution rather than Intelligence or Charisma, so it doesn't match your parameters precisely.



                    Fire Genasi make good wizards with their +1 Intelligence, and +2 Constitution will help your Produce Flame be as effective as possible.







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                        Others have covered RAW methods (e.g. multiclass into lore bard or warlock), but if this really is for flavor and your game has heavily story-driven RP like mine, then the best option is to talk to your DM.



                        My DM allowed me to teach our Druid the spell light because it made sense narratively that I would have tried to teach her a spell. Justification being that Cantrips are meant to be either simple or well-known spells that can be performed as training exercises or without thought.






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                          As with most things, talk to your DM



                          Others have covered RAW methods (e.g. multiclass into lore bard or warlock), but if this really is for flavor and your game has heavily story-driven RP like mine, then the best option is to talk to your DM.



                          My DM allowed me to teach our Druid the spell light because it made sense narratively that I would have tried to teach her a spell. Justification being that Cantrips are meant to be either simple or well-known spells that can be performed as training exercises or without thought.






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                            As with most things, talk to your DM



                            Others have covered RAW methods (e.g. multiclass into lore bard or warlock), but if this really is for flavor and your game has heavily story-driven RP like mine, then the best option is to talk to your DM.



                            My DM allowed me to teach our Druid the spell light because it made sense narratively that I would have tried to teach her a spell. Justification being that Cantrips are meant to be either simple or well-known spells that can be performed as training exercises or without thought.






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                            As with most things, talk to your DM



                            Others have covered RAW methods (e.g. multiclass into lore bard or warlock), but if this really is for flavor and your game has heavily story-driven RP like mine, then the best option is to talk to your DM.



                            My DM allowed me to teach our Druid the spell light because it made sense narratively that I would have tried to teach her a spell. Justification being that Cantrips are meant to be either simple or well-known spells that can be performed as training exercises or without thought.







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