Ubuntu 18.04 fresh install fails - won't boot











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I have just attempted to install 18.04 on my current 16.04 system.



Gear is a Gigabyte AM3+ mobo and AMX FX4100 chip (bulldozer).



I created a USB boot device, started it and the system hangs with a blank screen after the keyboard selection prompt.



If I move into the boot options and select expert mode, I get:

ACPI Exception: Could not find/resolve named package element: LNKD (20170831/dspkginit-381).

If I turn off all the boot options (noacpi, nolacpi, etc.), I get a screen flashing boot information (but it pops up for 1/4 of a second, then disappears). I managed to snap a photo of it - last error is

[ 62.772706 ] Buffer I/O error on dev sde, logical block 1944560, async page read

I have previously had much difficulty getting, initially 14.04 to work on this system, and the upgrade to 16.04 was almost impossible and is unstable. In 14.04 I used the alternate boot disc, which worked fine.



During the 16.04 upgrade process I tried many different graphics cards with varying errors but ultimately, failure, returning to my current: AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.36.0 / 3.13.0-143-generic, LLVM 5.0.0). I apologize that I cannot say what actually made it work - I think that the process of swapping cards and fiddling back and forth between proprietary drivers may have something to do with it.



Also of note is that in 16.04 I cannot boot to kernel versions 4.x - I must always fall back to the 3.13.0-143 kernel.



Below is my dmesg output.



If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated.





[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[ 0.000000] Linux version 3.13.0-143-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-010) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) ) #192-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 27 10:45:36 UTC 2018 (Ubuntu 3.13.0-143.192-generic 3.13.11-ckt39)
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-143-generic root=UUID=abc0d25d-ac6b-43f9-8634-411a4ba1d5a0 ro acpi=off noapic nolapic quiet splash nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
[ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus:
[ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel
[ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD
[ 0.000000] Centaur CentaurHauls
[ 0.000000] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x000000000009f7ff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x000000000009f800-0x000000000009ffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000000f0000-0x00000000000fffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000100000-0x00000000cfdeffff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf0000-0x00000000cfdf0fff] ACPI NVS
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf1000-0x00000000cfdfffff] ACPI data
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfe00000-0x00000000cfefffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000e0000000-0x00000000efffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000fec00000-0x00000000ffffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000100000000-0x000000022effffff] usable
[ 0.000000] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[ 0.000000] SMBIOS 2.4 present.
[ 0.000000] DMI: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-870A-USB3/GA-870A-USB3, BIOS F5d 10/21/2011
[ 0.000000] Kernel/User page tables isolation: disabled
[ 0.000000] e820: update [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff] usable ==> reserved
[ 0.000000] e820: remove [mem 0x000a0000-0x000fffff] usable
[ 0.000000] No AGP bridge found
[ 0.000000] e820: last_pfn = 0x22f000 max_arch_pfn = 0x400000000
[ 0.000000] MTRR default type: uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 00000-9FFFF write-back
[ 0.000000] A0000-BFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] C0000-C7FFF write-protect
[ 0.000000] C8000-FFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 0 base 000000000000 mask FFFF80000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 1 base 000080000000 mask FFFFC0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 2 base 0000C0000000 mask FFFFF0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 3 base 0000CFE00000 mask FFFFFFE00000 uncachable
[ 0.000000] 4 disabled
[ 0.000000] 5 disabled
[ 0.000000] 6 disabled
[ 0.000000] 7 disabled
[ 0.000000] TOM2: 000000022f000000 aka 8944M
[ 0.000000] x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new 0x7010600070106




Sorry I don't have anywhere to post a copy of the dmesg output fully and I can't seem to embed a copy of it inline due to size and apparent spamminess according to the filters.










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  • Did you create a new partition to test 18.04 on? It will come with a 4.x kernel as default so you might want to fix those problems on your existing 16.04 system too.
    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Apr 29 at 0:53










  • It's hanging before any partition control can be exerted. I suspect a video card problem, but it's difficult to pin down. X11 seems more complicated than it used to be. And I'm happy to trash the 16.04 install - /home is a different partition so no data loss.
    – Crispin Murphy
    Apr 29 at 5:43

















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I have just attempted to install 18.04 on my current 16.04 system.



Gear is a Gigabyte AM3+ mobo and AMX FX4100 chip (bulldozer).



I created a USB boot device, started it and the system hangs with a blank screen after the keyboard selection prompt.



If I move into the boot options and select expert mode, I get:

ACPI Exception: Could not find/resolve named package element: LNKD (20170831/dspkginit-381).

If I turn off all the boot options (noacpi, nolacpi, etc.), I get a screen flashing boot information (but it pops up for 1/4 of a second, then disappears). I managed to snap a photo of it - last error is

[ 62.772706 ] Buffer I/O error on dev sde, logical block 1944560, async page read

I have previously had much difficulty getting, initially 14.04 to work on this system, and the upgrade to 16.04 was almost impossible and is unstable. In 14.04 I used the alternate boot disc, which worked fine.



During the 16.04 upgrade process I tried many different graphics cards with varying errors but ultimately, failure, returning to my current: AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.36.0 / 3.13.0-143-generic, LLVM 5.0.0). I apologize that I cannot say what actually made it work - I think that the process of swapping cards and fiddling back and forth between proprietary drivers may have something to do with it.



Also of note is that in 16.04 I cannot boot to kernel versions 4.x - I must always fall back to the 3.13.0-143 kernel.



Below is my dmesg output.



If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated.





[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[ 0.000000] Linux version 3.13.0-143-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-010) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) ) #192-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 27 10:45:36 UTC 2018 (Ubuntu 3.13.0-143.192-generic 3.13.11-ckt39)
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-143-generic root=UUID=abc0d25d-ac6b-43f9-8634-411a4ba1d5a0 ro acpi=off noapic nolapic quiet splash nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
[ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus:
[ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel
[ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD
[ 0.000000] Centaur CentaurHauls
[ 0.000000] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x000000000009f7ff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x000000000009f800-0x000000000009ffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000000f0000-0x00000000000fffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000100000-0x00000000cfdeffff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf0000-0x00000000cfdf0fff] ACPI NVS
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf1000-0x00000000cfdfffff] ACPI data
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfe00000-0x00000000cfefffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000e0000000-0x00000000efffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000fec00000-0x00000000ffffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000100000000-0x000000022effffff] usable
[ 0.000000] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[ 0.000000] SMBIOS 2.4 present.
[ 0.000000] DMI: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-870A-USB3/GA-870A-USB3, BIOS F5d 10/21/2011
[ 0.000000] Kernel/User page tables isolation: disabled
[ 0.000000] e820: update [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff] usable ==> reserved
[ 0.000000] e820: remove [mem 0x000a0000-0x000fffff] usable
[ 0.000000] No AGP bridge found
[ 0.000000] e820: last_pfn = 0x22f000 max_arch_pfn = 0x400000000
[ 0.000000] MTRR default type: uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 00000-9FFFF write-back
[ 0.000000] A0000-BFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] C0000-C7FFF write-protect
[ 0.000000] C8000-FFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 0 base 000000000000 mask FFFF80000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 1 base 000080000000 mask FFFFC0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 2 base 0000C0000000 mask FFFFF0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 3 base 0000CFE00000 mask FFFFFFE00000 uncachable
[ 0.000000] 4 disabled
[ 0.000000] 5 disabled
[ 0.000000] 6 disabled
[ 0.000000] 7 disabled
[ 0.000000] TOM2: 000000022f000000 aka 8944M
[ 0.000000] x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new 0x7010600070106




Sorry I don't have anywhere to post a copy of the dmesg output fully and I can't seem to embed a copy of it inline due to size and apparent spamminess according to the filters.










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  • Did you create a new partition to test 18.04 on? It will come with a 4.x kernel as default so you might want to fix those problems on your existing 16.04 system too.
    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Apr 29 at 0:53










  • It's hanging before any partition control can be exerted. I suspect a video card problem, but it's difficult to pin down. X11 seems more complicated than it used to be. And I'm happy to trash the 16.04 install - /home is a different partition so no data loss.
    – Crispin Murphy
    Apr 29 at 5:43















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I have just attempted to install 18.04 on my current 16.04 system.



Gear is a Gigabyte AM3+ mobo and AMX FX4100 chip (bulldozer).



I created a USB boot device, started it and the system hangs with a blank screen after the keyboard selection prompt.



If I move into the boot options and select expert mode, I get:

ACPI Exception: Could not find/resolve named package element: LNKD (20170831/dspkginit-381).

If I turn off all the boot options (noacpi, nolacpi, etc.), I get a screen flashing boot information (but it pops up for 1/4 of a second, then disappears). I managed to snap a photo of it - last error is

[ 62.772706 ] Buffer I/O error on dev sde, logical block 1944560, async page read

I have previously had much difficulty getting, initially 14.04 to work on this system, and the upgrade to 16.04 was almost impossible and is unstable. In 14.04 I used the alternate boot disc, which worked fine.



During the 16.04 upgrade process I tried many different graphics cards with varying errors but ultimately, failure, returning to my current: AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.36.0 / 3.13.0-143-generic, LLVM 5.0.0). I apologize that I cannot say what actually made it work - I think that the process of swapping cards and fiddling back and forth between proprietary drivers may have something to do with it.



Also of note is that in 16.04 I cannot boot to kernel versions 4.x - I must always fall back to the 3.13.0-143 kernel.



Below is my dmesg output.



If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated.





[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[ 0.000000] Linux version 3.13.0-143-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-010) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) ) #192-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 27 10:45:36 UTC 2018 (Ubuntu 3.13.0-143.192-generic 3.13.11-ckt39)
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-143-generic root=UUID=abc0d25d-ac6b-43f9-8634-411a4ba1d5a0 ro acpi=off noapic nolapic quiet splash nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
[ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus:
[ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel
[ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD
[ 0.000000] Centaur CentaurHauls
[ 0.000000] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x000000000009f7ff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x000000000009f800-0x000000000009ffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000000f0000-0x00000000000fffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000100000-0x00000000cfdeffff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf0000-0x00000000cfdf0fff] ACPI NVS
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf1000-0x00000000cfdfffff] ACPI data
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfe00000-0x00000000cfefffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000e0000000-0x00000000efffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000fec00000-0x00000000ffffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000100000000-0x000000022effffff] usable
[ 0.000000] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[ 0.000000] SMBIOS 2.4 present.
[ 0.000000] DMI: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-870A-USB3/GA-870A-USB3, BIOS F5d 10/21/2011
[ 0.000000] Kernel/User page tables isolation: disabled
[ 0.000000] e820: update [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff] usable ==> reserved
[ 0.000000] e820: remove [mem 0x000a0000-0x000fffff] usable
[ 0.000000] No AGP bridge found
[ 0.000000] e820: last_pfn = 0x22f000 max_arch_pfn = 0x400000000
[ 0.000000] MTRR default type: uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 00000-9FFFF write-back
[ 0.000000] A0000-BFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] C0000-C7FFF write-protect
[ 0.000000] C8000-FFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 0 base 000000000000 mask FFFF80000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 1 base 000080000000 mask FFFFC0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 2 base 0000C0000000 mask FFFFF0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 3 base 0000CFE00000 mask FFFFFFE00000 uncachable
[ 0.000000] 4 disabled
[ 0.000000] 5 disabled
[ 0.000000] 6 disabled
[ 0.000000] 7 disabled
[ 0.000000] TOM2: 000000022f000000 aka 8944M
[ 0.000000] x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new 0x7010600070106




Sorry I don't have anywhere to post a copy of the dmesg output fully and I can't seem to embed a copy of it inline due to size and apparent spamminess according to the filters.










share|improve this question













I have just attempted to install 18.04 on my current 16.04 system.



Gear is a Gigabyte AM3+ mobo and AMX FX4100 chip (bulldozer).



I created a USB boot device, started it and the system hangs with a blank screen after the keyboard selection prompt.



If I move into the boot options and select expert mode, I get:

ACPI Exception: Could not find/resolve named package element: LNKD (20170831/dspkginit-381).

If I turn off all the boot options (noacpi, nolacpi, etc.), I get a screen flashing boot information (but it pops up for 1/4 of a second, then disappears). I managed to snap a photo of it - last error is

[ 62.772706 ] Buffer I/O error on dev sde, logical block 1944560, async page read

I have previously had much difficulty getting, initially 14.04 to work on this system, and the upgrade to 16.04 was almost impossible and is unstable. In 14.04 I used the alternate boot disc, which worked fine.



During the 16.04 upgrade process I tried many different graphics cards with varying errors but ultimately, failure, returning to my current: AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.36.0 / 3.13.0-143-generic, LLVM 5.0.0). I apologize that I cannot say what actually made it work - I think that the process of swapping cards and fiddling back and forth between proprietary drivers may have something to do with it.



Also of note is that in 16.04 I cannot boot to kernel versions 4.x - I must always fall back to the 3.13.0-143 kernel.



Below is my dmesg output.



If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated.





[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[ 0.000000] Linux version 3.13.0-143-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-010) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) ) #192-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 27 10:45:36 UTC 2018 (Ubuntu 3.13.0-143.192-generic 3.13.11-ckt39)
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-143-generic root=UUID=abc0d25d-ac6b-43f9-8634-411a4ba1d5a0 ro acpi=off noapic nolapic quiet splash nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
[ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus:
[ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel
[ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD
[ 0.000000] Centaur CentaurHauls
[ 0.000000] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x000000000009f7ff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x000000000009f800-0x000000000009ffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000000f0000-0x00000000000fffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000100000-0x00000000cfdeffff] usable
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf0000-0x00000000cfdf0fff] ACPI NVS
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfdf1000-0x00000000cfdfffff] ACPI data
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000cfe00000-0x00000000cfefffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000e0000000-0x00000000efffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000fec00000-0x00000000ffffffff] reserved
[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000100000000-0x000000022effffff] usable
[ 0.000000] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[ 0.000000] SMBIOS 2.4 present.
[ 0.000000] DMI: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-870A-USB3/GA-870A-USB3, BIOS F5d 10/21/2011
[ 0.000000] Kernel/User page tables isolation: disabled
[ 0.000000] e820: update [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff] usable ==> reserved
[ 0.000000] e820: remove [mem 0x000a0000-0x000fffff] usable
[ 0.000000] No AGP bridge found
[ 0.000000] e820: last_pfn = 0x22f000 max_arch_pfn = 0x400000000
[ 0.000000] MTRR default type: uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 00000-9FFFF write-back
[ 0.000000] A0000-BFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] C0000-C7FFF write-protect
[ 0.000000] C8000-FFFFF uncachable
[ 0.000000] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[ 0.000000] 0 base 000000000000 mask FFFF80000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 1 base 000080000000 mask FFFFC0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 2 base 0000C0000000 mask FFFFF0000000 write-back
[ 0.000000] 3 base 0000CFE00000 mask FFFFFFE00000 uncachable
[ 0.000000] 4 disabled
[ 0.000000] 5 disabled
[ 0.000000] 6 disabled
[ 0.000000] 7 disabled
[ 0.000000] TOM2: 000000022f000000 aka 8944M
[ 0.000000] x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new 0x7010600070106




Sorry I don't have anywhere to post a copy of the dmesg output fully and I can't seem to embed a copy of it inline due to size and apparent spamminess according to the filters.







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  • Did you create a new partition to test 18.04 on? It will come with a 4.x kernel as default so you might want to fix those problems on your existing 16.04 system too.
    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Apr 29 at 0:53










  • It's hanging before any partition control can be exerted. I suspect a video card problem, but it's difficult to pin down. X11 seems more complicated than it used to be. And I'm happy to trash the 16.04 install - /home is a different partition so no data loss.
    – Crispin Murphy
    Apr 29 at 5:43




















  • Did you create a new partition to test 18.04 on? It will come with a 4.x kernel as default so you might want to fix those problems on your existing 16.04 system too.
    – WinEunuuchs2Unix
    Apr 29 at 0:53










  • It's hanging before any partition control can be exerted. I suspect a video card problem, but it's difficult to pin down. X11 seems more complicated than it used to be. And I'm happy to trash the 16.04 install - /home is a different partition so no data loss.
    – Crispin Murphy
    Apr 29 at 5:43


















Did you create a new partition to test 18.04 on? It will come with a 4.x kernel as default so you might want to fix those problems on your existing 16.04 system too.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
Apr 29 at 0:53




Did you create a new partition to test 18.04 on? It will come with a 4.x kernel as default so you might want to fix those problems on your existing 16.04 system too.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
Apr 29 at 0:53












It's hanging before any partition control can be exerted. I suspect a video card problem, but it's difficult to pin down. X11 seems more complicated than it used to be. And I'm happy to trash the 16.04 install - /home is a different partition so no data loss.
– Crispin Murphy
Apr 29 at 5:43






It's hanging before any partition control can be exerted. I suspect a video card problem, but it's difficult to pin down. X11 seems more complicated than it used to be. And I'm happy to trash the 16.04 install - /home is a different partition so no data loss.
– Crispin Murphy
Apr 29 at 5:43

















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