If a prime can be expressed as sum of square of two integers, then prove that the representation is unique.
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If a prime can be expressed as sum of two squares, then prove that the representation is unique.
My attempt:
If $a^2+b^2=p$, then it is obvious that $a,b$ of different parity.
Now, I assume the contraposition that the representation is not unique, $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$. Again, $c,d$ are of different parity.
Now, let $b,d$ be even and $a,c$ be odd.
So, $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2 implies a^2-c^2=d^2-b^2 implies (a+c)(a-c)=(d-b)(d+b)$.
I cannot proceed any further. Please help.
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If a prime can be expressed as sum of two squares, then prove that the representation is unique.
My attempt:
If $a^2+b^2=p$, then it is obvious that $a,b$ of different parity.
Now, I assume the contraposition that the representation is not unique, $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$. Again, $c,d$ are of different parity.
Now, let $b,d$ be even and $a,c$ be odd.
So, $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2 implies a^2-c^2=d^2-b^2 implies (a+c)(a-c)=(d-b)(d+b)$.
I cannot proceed any further. Please help.
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Nitpick corner case: $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, so not necessarily of different parity. This would most likely be taken care of in a different case. :)
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– apnorton
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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@anorton That is definitely something I didn't think about...thanks for identification
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If a prime can be expressed as sum of two squares, then prove that the representation is unique.
My attempt:
If $a^2+b^2=p$, then it is obvious that $a,b$ of different parity.
Now, I assume the contraposition that the representation is not unique, $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$. Again, $c,d$ are of different parity.
Now, let $b,d$ be even and $a,c$ be odd.
So, $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2 implies a^2-c^2=d^2-b^2 implies (a+c)(a-c)=(d-b)(d+b)$.
I cannot proceed any further. Please help.
elementary-number-theory prime-numbers sums-of-squares
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If a prime can be expressed as sum of two squares, then prove that the representation is unique.
My attempt:
If $a^2+b^2=p$, then it is obvious that $a,b$ of different parity.
Now, I assume the contraposition that the representation is not unique, $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$. Again, $c,d$ are of different parity.
Now, let $b,d$ be even and $a,c$ be odd.
So, $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2 implies a^2-c^2=d^2-b^2 implies (a+c)(a-c)=(d-b)(d+b)$.
I cannot proceed any further. Please help.
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Nitpick corner case: $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, so not necessarily of different parity. This would most likely be taken care of in a different case. :)
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– apnorton
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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@anorton That is definitely something I didn't think about...thanks for identification
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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Nitpick corner case: $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, so not necessarily of different parity. This would most likely be taken care of in a different case. :)
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– apnorton
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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@anorton That is definitely something I didn't think about...thanks for identification
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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Nitpick corner case: $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, so not necessarily of different parity. This would most likely be taken care of in a different case. :)
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– apnorton
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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Nitpick corner case: $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, so not necessarily of different parity. This would most likely be taken care of in a different case. :)
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– apnorton
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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@anorton That is definitely something I didn't think about...thanks for identification
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:02
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@anorton That is definitely something I didn't think about...thanks for identification
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The slickest way is via a little Algebraic Number Theory. If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$$ Now ${bf Z}[i]$ is a unique factorization domain, so these two factorizations of $p$ show that $a+bi$ can't be a prime in ${bf Z}[i]$. We must have a non-trivial factorization $a+bi=(s+ti)(u+vi)$, whence $a-bi=(s-ti)(u-vi)$, and then $$p=(s^2+t^2)(u^2+v^2)$$ contradicting primality of $p$.
There are ways to answer your question without these advanced concepts, but I can never remember how it's done. I'm sure someone else will.
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
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Here's an answer without Algebraic Number Theory. I found it in Shanks, Solved and Unsolved Problems in Number Theory.
Assume $$p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2tag1$$ with all variables positive integers. Then $$p^2=(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=a^2c^2+a^2d^2+b^2c^2+b^2d^2$$ and you can verify by just multiplying everything out that $$p^2=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2tag2$$ and $$p^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2tag3$$ By (1), we have $$(p-a^2)d^2=(p-c^2)b^2$$ which implies $$p(d^2-b^2)=(ad-bc)(ad+bc)tag4$$ From (4), $p$ divides $ad-bc$, or $p$ divides $ad+bc$. If $p$ divides $ad-bc$, then from (2) we get $ad-bc=0$, so $d^2-b^2=0$, so $b=d$. If $p$ divides $ad+bc$, then from (3) we get $ac=bd$. Now $a$ and $b$ are relatively prime, so $a$ divides $d$, and $b$ divides $c$. Then by (1) we have $a=d$, and we have proved that the two representations of $p$ are the same.
This is probably something like what @Konstantinos was getting at in his answer.
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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The problem is trivialized if you are given that $x^2+y^2=n$ has $r_2(n)=4sum_{d|n} sin(pi d/2) $ solutions in the integers.
The number of ways $r_2(p)=4sum_{d|p} sin(frac{pi d}{2})=4(1+sin(pi p/2))$.
If $sin(pi p /2)=1$ then there are 8 solution in the integers. Namely, $(pm a,pm b)$ and $(pm b, pm a)$ satisfy $x^2+y^2=p$ where $aneq b$. There is another way one might imagine $8$ solutions: $(0,pm a),(pm a,0)$ and $(pm b,pm b)$ but this cannot happen because it would mean that $p$ is a perfect square and therefore not prime.
If $sin(pi p /2)=-1$ then we cannot write $p$ as the sum of squares.
$If sin(pi p /2)=0$ then $p=2$.
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If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=frac{(ac+bd)(ac-bd)}{(a+d)(a-d)}$$
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
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The slickest way is via a little Algebraic Number Theory. If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$$ Now ${bf Z}[i]$ is a unique factorization domain, so these two factorizations of $p$ show that $a+bi$ can't be a prime in ${bf Z}[i]$. We must have a non-trivial factorization $a+bi=(s+ti)(u+vi)$, whence $a-bi=(s-ti)(u-vi)$, and then $$p=(s^2+t^2)(u^2+v^2)$$ contradicting primality of $p$.
There are ways to answer your question without these advanced concepts, but I can never remember how it's done. I'm sure someone else will.
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 18 '16 at 22:59
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 19 '16 at 7:13
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show 2 more comments
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The slickest way is via a little Algebraic Number Theory. If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$$ Now ${bf Z}[i]$ is a unique factorization domain, so these two factorizations of $p$ show that $a+bi$ can't be a prime in ${bf Z}[i]$. We must have a non-trivial factorization $a+bi=(s+ti)(u+vi)$, whence $a-bi=(s-ti)(u-vi)$, and then $$p=(s^2+t^2)(u^2+v^2)$$ contradicting primality of $p$.
There are ways to answer your question without these advanced concepts, but I can never remember how it's done. I'm sure someone else will.
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 18 '16 at 22:59
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 19 '16 at 7:13
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show 2 more comments
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The slickest way is via a little Algebraic Number Theory. If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$$ Now ${bf Z}[i]$ is a unique factorization domain, so these two factorizations of $p$ show that $a+bi$ can't be a prime in ${bf Z}[i]$. We must have a non-trivial factorization $a+bi=(s+ti)(u+vi)$, whence $a-bi=(s-ti)(u-vi)$, and then $$p=(s^2+t^2)(u^2+v^2)$$ contradicting primality of $p$.
There are ways to answer your question without these advanced concepts, but I can never remember how it's done. I'm sure someone else will.
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The slickest way is via a little Algebraic Number Theory. If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$$ Now ${bf Z}[i]$ is a unique factorization domain, so these two factorizations of $p$ show that $a+bi$ can't be a prime in ${bf Z}[i]$. We must have a non-trivial factorization $a+bi=(s+ti)(u+vi)$, whence $a-bi=(s-ti)(u-vi)$, and then $$p=(s^2+t^2)(u^2+v^2)$$ contradicting primality of $p$.
There are ways to answer your question without these advanced concepts, but I can never remember how it's done. I'm sure someone else will.
answered Mar 20 '14 at 11:59
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 18 '16 at 22:59
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 19 '16 at 7:13
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 18 '16 at 22:59
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 19 '16 at 7:13
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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Thanks for the approach...I will try to do something with this.
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 12:00
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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How do you deduce that $a+bi$ is not prime from the UFD property of $mathbb{Z}[i]$?
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– Cary
Sep 18 '16 at 15:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 18 '16 at 22:59
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@Cary, maybe it would be better to say that $a+bi$ and $c+di$ can't both be prime (in ${bf Z}[i]$), since that would give us two different prime factorizations of $p$. Then without loss of generality we may assume $a+bi$ is not prime.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 18 '16 at 22:59
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@GerryMyerson: if $p$ is an ordinary prime, then $p$ is either a Gauss prime or the product of a Gauss prime and its conjugate. Clearly, we are in the latter case. Can't we just say that if $p=(a+bi)(a-bi)=(c+di)(c-di)$ are two prime factorizations, then $a+bi=u(c+di)$ or $a+bi=u(c-di)$ for $u$ a unit. In either case, we have $(a,b)=(pm c, pm d)$ or $(a,b) = (pm d, pm c)$, which implies $a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$?
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– Cary
Sep 19 '16 at 7:08
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
Sep 19 '16 at 7:13
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@Cary, I was trying to do it using just the UFD property, and not the result about how rational primes factor in the Gaussian integers.
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– Gerry Myerson
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Here's an answer without Algebraic Number Theory. I found it in Shanks, Solved and Unsolved Problems in Number Theory.
Assume $$p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2tag1$$ with all variables positive integers. Then $$p^2=(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=a^2c^2+a^2d^2+b^2c^2+b^2d^2$$ and you can verify by just multiplying everything out that $$p^2=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2tag2$$ and $$p^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2tag3$$ By (1), we have $$(p-a^2)d^2=(p-c^2)b^2$$ which implies $$p(d^2-b^2)=(ad-bc)(ad+bc)tag4$$ From (4), $p$ divides $ad-bc$, or $p$ divides $ad+bc$. If $p$ divides $ad-bc$, then from (2) we get $ad-bc=0$, so $d^2-b^2=0$, so $b=d$. If $p$ divides $ad+bc$, then from (3) we get $ac=bd$. Now $a$ and $b$ are relatively prime, so $a$ divides $d$, and $b$ divides $c$. Then by (1) we have $a=d$, and we have proved that the two representations of $p$ are the same.
This is probably something like what @Konstantinos was getting at in his answer.
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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– rah4927
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Here's an answer without Algebraic Number Theory. I found it in Shanks, Solved and Unsolved Problems in Number Theory.
Assume $$p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2tag1$$ with all variables positive integers. Then $$p^2=(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=a^2c^2+a^2d^2+b^2c^2+b^2d^2$$ and you can verify by just multiplying everything out that $$p^2=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2tag2$$ and $$p^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2tag3$$ By (1), we have $$(p-a^2)d^2=(p-c^2)b^2$$ which implies $$p(d^2-b^2)=(ad-bc)(ad+bc)tag4$$ From (4), $p$ divides $ad-bc$, or $p$ divides $ad+bc$. If $p$ divides $ad-bc$, then from (2) we get $ad-bc=0$, so $d^2-b^2=0$, so $b=d$. If $p$ divides $ad+bc$, then from (3) we get $ac=bd$. Now $a$ and $b$ are relatively prime, so $a$ divides $d$, and $b$ divides $c$. Then by (1) we have $a=d$, and we have proved that the two representations of $p$ are the same.
This is probably something like what @Konstantinos was getting at in his answer.
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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– rah4927
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Here's an answer without Algebraic Number Theory. I found it in Shanks, Solved and Unsolved Problems in Number Theory.
Assume $$p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2tag1$$ with all variables positive integers. Then $$p^2=(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=a^2c^2+a^2d^2+b^2c^2+b^2d^2$$ and you can verify by just multiplying everything out that $$p^2=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2tag2$$ and $$p^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2tag3$$ By (1), we have $$(p-a^2)d^2=(p-c^2)b^2$$ which implies $$p(d^2-b^2)=(ad-bc)(ad+bc)tag4$$ From (4), $p$ divides $ad-bc$, or $p$ divides $ad+bc$. If $p$ divides $ad-bc$, then from (2) we get $ad-bc=0$, so $d^2-b^2=0$, so $b=d$. If $p$ divides $ad+bc$, then from (3) we get $ac=bd$. Now $a$ and $b$ are relatively prime, so $a$ divides $d$, and $b$ divides $c$. Then by (1) we have $a=d$, and we have proved that the two representations of $p$ are the same.
This is probably something like what @Konstantinos was getting at in his answer.
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Here's an answer without Algebraic Number Theory. I found it in Shanks, Solved and Unsolved Problems in Number Theory.
Assume $$p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2tag1$$ with all variables positive integers. Then $$p^2=(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=a^2c^2+a^2d^2+b^2c^2+b^2d^2$$ and you can verify by just multiplying everything out that $$p^2=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2tag2$$ and $$p^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2tag3$$ By (1), we have $$(p-a^2)d^2=(p-c^2)b^2$$ which implies $$p(d^2-b^2)=(ad-bc)(ad+bc)tag4$$ From (4), $p$ divides $ad-bc$, or $p$ divides $ad+bc$. If $p$ divides $ad-bc$, then from (2) we get $ad-bc=0$, so $d^2-b^2=0$, so $b=d$. If $p$ divides $ad+bc$, then from (3) we get $ac=bd$. Now $a$ and $b$ are relatively prime, so $a$ divides $d$, and $b$ divides $c$. Then by (1) we have $a=d$, and we have proved that the two representations of $p$ are the same.
This is probably something like what @Konstantinos was getting at in his answer.
answered Mar 21 '14 at 3:54
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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– rah4927
Mar 21 '14 at 9:11
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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– rah4927
Mar 21 '14 at 9:11
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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– rah4927
Mar 21 '14 at 9:11
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Just noting that $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=(ac+bd)^2+(ad-bc)^2=(ac-bd)^2+(ad+bc)^2$ states that if a number is the product of two sums of squares,then the number can also be written as the sum of two squares.This is the sum of squares identity of Diophantus.
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The problem is trivialized if you are given that $x^2+y^2=n$ has $r_2(n)=4sum_{d|n} sin(pi d/2) $ solutions in the integers.
The number of ways $r_2(p)=4sum_{d|p} sin(frac{pi d}{2})=4(1+sin(pi p/2))$.
If $sin(pi p /2)=1$ then there are 8 solution in the integers. Namely, $(pm a,pm b)$ and $(pm b, pm a)$ satisfy $x^2+y^2=p$ where $aneq b$. There is another way one might imagine $8$ solutions: $(0,pm a),(pm a,0)$ and $(pm b,pm b)$ but this cannot happen because it would mean that $p$ is a perfect square and therefore not prime.
If $sin(pi p /2)=-1$ then we cannot write $p$ as the sum of squares.
$If sin(pi p /2)=0$ then $p=2$.
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The problem is trivialized if you are given that $x^2+y^2=n$ has $r_2(n)=4sum_{d|n} sin(pi d/2) $ solutions in the integers.
The number of ways $r_2(p)=4sum_{d|p} sin(frac{pi d}{2})=4(1+sin(pi p/2))$.
If $sin(pi p /2)=1$ then there are 8 solution in the integers. Namely, $(pm a,pm b)$ and $(pm b, pm a)$ satisfy $x^2+y^2=p$ where $aneq b$. There is another way one might imagine $8$ solutions: $(0,pm a),(pm a,0)$ and $(pm b,pm b)$ but this cannot happen because it would mean that $p$ is a perfect square and therefore not prime.
If $sin(pi p /2)=-1$ then we cannot write $p$ as the sum of squares.
$If sin(pi p /2)=0$ then $p=2$.
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The problem is trivialized if you are given that $x^2+y^2=n$ has $r_2(n)=4sum_{d|n} sin(pi d/2) $ solutions in the integers.
The number of ways $r_2(p)=4sum_{d|p} sin(frac{pi d}{2})=4(1+sin(pi p/2))$.
If $sin(pi p /2)=1$ then there are 8 solution in the integers. Namely, $(pm a,pm b)$ and $(pm b, pm a)$ satisfy $x^2+y^2=p$ where $aneq b$. There is another way one might imagine $8$ solutions: $(0,pm a),(pm a,0)$ and $(pm b,pm b)$ but this cannot happen because it would mean that $p$ is a perfect square and therefore not prime.
If $sin(pi p /2)=-1$ then we cannot write $p$ as the sum of squares.
$If sin(pi p /2)=0$ then $p=2$.
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The problem is trivialized if you are given that $x^2+y^2=n$ has $r_2(n)=4sum_{d|n} sin(pi d/2) $ solutions in the integers.
The number of ways $r_2(p)=4sum_{d|p} sin(frac{pi d}{2})=4(1+sin(pi p/2))$.
If $sin(pi p /2)=1$ then there are 8 solution in the integers. Namely, $(pm a,pm b)$ and $(pm b, pm a)$ satisfy $x^2+y^2=p$ where $aneq b$. There is another way one might imagine $8$ solutions: $(0,pm a),(pm a,0)$ and $(pm b,pm b)$ but this cannot happen because it would mean that $p$ is a perfect square and therefore not prime.
If $sin(pi p /2)=-1$ then we cannot write $p$ as the sum of squares.
$If sin(pi p /2)=0$ then $p=2$.
edited Dec 28 '18 at 17:36
answered Dec 28 '18 at 16:59
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If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=frac{(ac+bd)(ac-bd)}{(a+d)(a-d)}$$
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
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If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=frac{(ac+bd)(ac-bd)}{(a+d)(a-d)}$$
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
Mar 20 '14 at 18:01
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If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=frac{(ac+bd)(ac-bd)}{(a+d)(a-d)}$$
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If $p=a^2+b^2=c^2+d^2$ then $$p=frac{(ac+bd)(ac-bd)}{(a+d)(a-d)}$$
answered Mar 20 '14 at 13:41
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
Mar 20 '14 at 18:01
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
Mar 20 '14 at 18:01
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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How is that supposed to help?
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– Hawk
Mar 20 '14 at 17:48
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
Mar 20 '14 at 18:01
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It is a contradiction this shows that $p$ must be composite.Maybe i will edit it later when i will have time!
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– Konstantinos Gaitanas
Mar 20 '14 at 18:01
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Nitpick corner case: $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, so not necessarily of different parity. This would most likely be taken care of in a different case. :)
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– apnorton
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@anorton That is definitely something I didn't think about...thanks for identification
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