First order differential equations with 2 varriables
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Does anybody know how to solve the following differntial equation?
$$w^2cdot r+frac{dw}{dt}cdot r+frac{dr}{dt}cdot w=3g$$
where w and r are a function of time so $w(t)$ and $r(t)$.
$g$ is a constant
EDIT:
This equation came from a thought problem of mine which I will now explain since I still do not know how to approach the problem.
Basically I want to design a spiral track in which a vehicle will accelerate. However the total acceleration needs to be constant.
The vehicle will have 2 acceleration components, a radial component ($a_r$) and a change in speed component ($a_s$). Since we want constant acceleration:
$a_r + a_s = constant$
From circular motion we know that $a_r = omega ^2 r$
where $r$ is the radius, and $omega$
Further we know that $v=omega*r$, therefore:
$a_s=frac{d}{dt}(omega r)$
For constant acceleration $a_{total} = a_r + a_s = omega ^2 r + frac{d}{dt}(omega r) =constant$
Further usefull information:
Length of the track covered at a certain time
$l=v*t=omega r t$
With all this the radius will be a function of time, $r(t)$
and the angular velocity will be a function of time, $omega (t)$
Boundary conditions:
$r(0) = 0$
$omega (0) = 0$
Now I would like to find a possible set of solutions to create a track by implementing end boundary conditions that i choose e.g. $v(t_{end})=100 [m/s]$ and $l(t_{end})=5000 [m]$
Here is a diagram for clarity:
Constant acceleration spiral track
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Does anybody know how to solve the following differntial equation?
$$w^2cdot r+frac{dw}{dt}cdot r+frac{dr}{dt}cdot w=3g$$
where w and r are a function of time so $w(t)$ and $r(t)$.
$g$ is a constant
EDIT:
This equation came from a thought problem of mine which I will now explain since I still do not know how to approach the problem.
Basically I want to design a spiral track in which a vehicle will accelerate. However the total acceleration needs to be constant.
The vehicle will have 2 acceleration components, a radial component ($a_r$) and a change in speed component ($a_s$). Since we want constant acceleration:
$a_r + a_s = constant$
From circular motion we know that $a_r = omega ^2 r$
where $r$ is the radius, and $omega$
Further we know that $v=omega*r$, therefore:
$a_s=frac{d}{dt}(omega r)$
For constant acceleration $a_{total} = a_r + a_s = omega ^2 r + frac{d}{dt}(omega r) =constant$
Further usefull information:
Length of the track covered at a certain time
$l=v*t=omega r t$
With all this the radius will be a function of time, $r(t)$
and the angular velocity will be a function of time, $omega (t)$
Boundary conditions:
$r(0) = 0$
$omega (0) = 0$
Now I would like to find a possible set of solutions to create a track by implementing end boundary conditions that i choose e.g. $v(t_{end})=100 [m/s]$ and $l(t_{end})=5000 [m]$
Here is a diagram for clarity:
Constant acceleration spiral track
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One more differential equation is needed to solve it.
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– Narasimham
Dec 29 '18 at 20:03
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Does anybody know how to solve the following differntial equation?
$$w^2cdot r+frac{dw}{dt}cdot r+frac{dr}{dt}cdot w=3g$$
where w and r are a function of time so $w(t)$ and $r(t)$.
$g$ is a constant
EDIT:
This equation came from a thought problem of mine which I will now explain since I still do not know how to approach the problem.
Basically I want to design a spiral track in which a vehicle will accelerate. However the total acceleration needs to be constant.
The vehicle will have 2 acceleration components, a radial component ($a_r$) and a change in speed component ($a_s$). Since we want constant acceleration:
$a_r + a_s = constant$
From circular motion we know that $a_r = omega ^2 r$
where $r$ is the radius, and $omega$
Further we know that $v=omega*r$, therefore:
$a_s=frac{d}{dt}(omega r)$
For constant acceleration $a_{total} = a_r + a_s = omega ^2 r + frac{d}{dt}(omega r) =constant$
Further usefull information:
Length of the track covered at a certain time
$l=v*t=omega r t$
With all this the radius will be a function of time, $r(t)$
and the angular velocity will be a function of time, $omega (t)$
Boundary conditions:
$r(0) = 0$
$omega (0) = 0$
Now I would like to find a possible set of solutions to create a track by implementing end boundary conditions that i choose e.g. $v(t_{end})=100 [m/s]$ and $l(t_{end})=5000 [m]$
Here is a diagram for clarity:
Constant acceleration spiral track
ordinary-differential-equations
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Does anybody know how to solve the following differntial equation?
$$w^2cdot r+frac{dw}{dt}cdot r+frac{dr}{dt}cdot w=3g$$
where w and r are a function of time so $w(t)$ and $r(t)$.
$g$ is a constant
EDIT:
This equation came from a thought problem of mine which I will now explain since I still do not know how to approach the problem.
Basically I want to design a spiral track in which a vehicle will accelerate. However the total acceleration needs to be constant.
The vehicle will have 2 acceleration components, a radial component ($a_r$) and a change in speed component ($a_s$). Since we want constant acceleration:
$a_r + a_s = constant$
From circular motion we know that $a_r = omega ^2 r$
where $r$ is the radius, and $omega$
Further we know that $v=omega*r$, therefore:
$a_s=frac{d}{dt}(omega r)$
For constant acceleration $a_{total} = a_r + a_s = omega ^2 r + frac{d}{dt}(omega r) =constant$
Further usefull information:
Length of the track covered at a certain time
$l=v*t=omega r t$
With all this the radius will be a function of time, $r(t)$
and the angular velocity will be a function of time, $omega (t)$
Boundary conditions:
$r(0) = 0$
$omega (0) = 0$
Now I would like to find a possible set of solutions to create a track by implementing end boundary conditions that i choose e.g. $v(t_{end})=100 [m/s]$ and $l(t_{end})=5000 [m]$
Here is a diagram for clarity:
Constant acceleration spiral track
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edited Dec 30 '18 at 10:51
Alessandro Simonelli
asked Dec 29 '18 at 12:02
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One more differential equation is needed to solve it.
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– Narasimham
Dec 29 '18 at 20:03
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One more differential equation is needed to solve it.
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– Narasimham
Dec 29 '18 at 20:03
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One more differential equation is needed to solve it.
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– Narasimham
Dec 29 '18 at 20:03
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One more differential equation is needed to solve it.
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Calling $z(t) = w(t) r(t)$ we have
$$
z^2(t)/r(t)+z'(t) =3g
$$
now knowing $r(t)$ you can solve for $z(t)$ recovering $w(t) = z(t)/r(t)$
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
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– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
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A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
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Suppose that $w$ is an arbitrary differentiable function. For any such function your equation is a linear differential equation for $r$. Solve it, say, by the variations of constants formula.
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Calling $z(t) = w(t) r(t)$ we have
$$
z^2(t)/r(t)+z'(t) =3g
$$
now knowing $r(t)$ you can solve for $z(t)$ recovering $w(t) = z(t)/r(t)$
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
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– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
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A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
add a comment |
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Calling $z(t) = w(t) r(t)$ we have
$$
z^2(t)/r(t)+z'(t) =3g
$$
now knowing $r(t)$ you can solve for $z(t)$ recovering $w(t) = z(t)/r(t)$
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
$endgroup$
– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
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A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
add a comment |
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Calling $z(t) = w(t) r(t)$ we have
$$
z^2(t)/r(t)+z'(t) =3g
$$
now knowing $r(t)$ you can solve for $z(t)$ recovering $w(t) = z(t)/r(t)$
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Calling $z(t) = w(t) r(t)$ we have
$$
z^2(t)/r(t)+z'(t) =3g
$$
now knowing $r(t)$ you can solve for $z(t)$ recovering $w(t) = z(t)/r(t)$
answered Dec 29 '18 at 13:56
CesareoCesareo
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
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– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
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A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
add a comment |
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
$endgroup$
– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
$begingroup$
A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
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– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
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Thanks for the answer, but what if I want to find the combination of w(t) and r(t) for which the equation is true?
$endgroup$
– Alessandro Simonelli
Dec 29 '18 at 14:44
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A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
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A differential equation is an equation: so think what do you can ask to an equation like $w(t)+r(t) = 3g$ regarding the values for $w(t)$ or $r(t)$ considered as unknowns. This equation (one) with two unknowns would be undecidable.
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– Cesareo
Dec 29 '18 at 16:16
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Suppose that $w$ is an arbitrary differentiable function. For any such function your equation is a linear differential equation for $r$. Solve it, say, by the variations of constants formula.
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Suppose that $w$ is an arbitrary differentiable function. For any such function your equation is a linear differential equation for $r$. Solve it, say, by the variations of constants formula.
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Suppose that $w$ is an arbitrary differentiable function. For any such function your equation is a linear differential equation for $r$. Solve it, say, by the variations of constants formula.
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Suppose that $w$ is an arbitrary differentiable function. For any such function your equation is a linear differential equation for $r$. Solve it, say, by the variations of constants formula.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 12:42
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One more differential equation is needed to solve it.
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– Narasimham
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