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I am posting this question in order to gain a better understand of what the Fréchet mean is for a generalised shape space.



So firstly I gather that the Fréchet mean of a probabilty measure $mu$ on a general metric space $(M,dist)$ is a generalisation of the mean or the expectation of a probability distribution on a Euclidean space and is defined as any global minimum of the function
$$F(x)=int_Mdist(x,y)^2dmu(y).$$
This concept can be further generalised by replacing 'dist' in the integrand by a suitable function of the distance.



My question is, what exactly does this formula do? I think it has something to do with minimising the mean between a data set, however I am not sure of this. Also I am not sure how I would use this formula. What exactly is the 'probability measure' in this case? I think it's some kind of statistical distribution, but again I am really not sure.



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  • If $x^*$ is an argument of a global minimum of $F$, then we know that the $mu$-average distance from $x^*$ to any point $yin M$ is minimal.
    – Ilya
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:45










  • Thank you, so $x^*$ is the argmin of F, would we consider $y$ to be the argmin of another data set? And what exactly is the $mu$-average? I.e. what is a probability measure?
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    Jan 26 '13 at 21:55










  • In order to have any concept of a mean we need a probability measure. When finding the mean of numbers $1,2,3,4$ we (implicitly) use the probability measure $mu$ such that $mu({k})=1/4$ for $k=1,2,3,4$. So, if you need the mean of a finite subset of a metric space, using this soft of measure (normalized counting measure) may be appropriate. If the set is infinite, one has to think harder of what the appropriate measure should be.
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    Jan 27 '13 at 0:33















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I am posting this question in order to gain a better understand of what the Fréchet mean is for a generalised shape space.



So firstly I gather that the Fréchet mean of a probabilty measure $mu$ on a general metric space $(M,dist)$ is a generalisation of the mean or the expectation of a probability distribution on a Euclidean space and is defined as any global minimum of the function
$$F(x)=int_Mdist(x,y)^2dmu(y).$$
This concept can be further generalised by replacing 'dist' in the integrand by a suitable function of the distance.



My question is, what exactly does this formula do? I think it has something to do with minimising the mean between a data set, however I am not sure of this. Also I am not sure how I would use this formula. What exactly is the 'probability measure' in this case? I think it's some kind of statistical distribution, but again I am really not sure.



Any help with this question will be much appreiciated, thank you.










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  • If $x^*$ is an argument of a global minimum of $F$, then we know that the $mu$-average distance from $x^*$ to any point $yin M$ is minimal.
    – Ilya
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:45










  • Thank you, so $x^*$ is the argmin of F, would we consider $y$ to be the argmin of another data set? And what exactly is the $mu$-average? I.e. what is a probability measure?
    – Luis_G
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:55










  • In order to have any concept of a mean we need a probability measure. When finding the mean of numbers $1,2,3,4$ we (implicitly) use the probability measure $mu$ such that $mu({k})=1/4$ for $k=1,2,3,4$. So, if you need the mean of a finite subset of a metric space, using this soft of measure (normalized counting measure) may be appropriate. If the set is infinite, one has to think harder of what the appropriate measure should be.
    – user53153
    Jan 27 '13 at 0:33













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I am posting this question in order to gain a better understand of what the Fréchet mean is for a generalised shape space.



So firstly I gather that the Fréchet mean of a probabilty measure $mu$ on a general metric space $(M,dist)$ is a generalisation of the mean or the expectation of a probability distribution on a Euclidean space and is defined as any global minimum of the function
$$F(x)=int_Mdist(x,y)^2dmu(y).$$
This concept can be further generalised by replacing 'dist' in the integrand by a suitable function of the distance.



My question is, what exactly does this formula do? I think it has something to do with minimising the mean between a data set, however I am not sure of this. Also I am not sure how I would use this formula. What exactly is the 'probability measure' in this case? I think it's some kind of statistical distribution, but again I am really not sure.



Any help with this question will be much appreiciated, thank you.










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I am posting this question in order to gain a better understand of what the Fréchet mean is for a generalised shape space.



So firstly I gather that the Fréchet mean of a probabilty measure $mu$ on a general metric space $(M,dist)$ is a generalisation of the mean or the expectation of a probability distribution on a Euclidean space and is defined as any global minimum of the function
$$F(x)=int_Mdist(x,y)^2dmu(y).$$
This concept can be further generalised by replacing 'dist' in the integrand by a suitable function of the distance.



My question is, what exactly does this formula do? I think it has something to do with minimising the mean between a data set, however I am not sure of this. Also I am not sure how I would use this formula. What exactly is the 'probability measure' in this case? I think it's some kind of statistical distribution, but again I am really not sure.



Any help with this question will be much appreiciated, thank you.







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  • If $x^*$ is an argument of a global minimum of $F$, then we know that the $mu$-average distance from $x^*$ to any point $yin M$ is minimal.
    – Ilya
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:45










  • Thank you, so $x^*$ is the argmin of F, would we consider $y$ to be the argmin of another data set? And what exactly is the $mu$-average? I.e. what is a probability measure?
    – Luis_G
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:55










  • In order to have any concept of a mean we need a probability measure. When finding the mean of numbers $1,2,3,4$ we (implicitly) use the probability measure $mu$ such that $mu({k})=1/4$ for $k=1,2,3,4$. So, if you need the mean of a finite subset of a metric space, using this soft of measure (normalized counting measure) may be appropriate. If the set is infinite, one has to think harder of what the appropriate measure should be.
    – user53153
    Jan 27 '13 at 0:33


















  • If $x^*$ is an argument of a global minimum of $F$, then we know that the $mu$-average distance from $x^*$ to any point $yin M$ is minimal.
    – Ilya
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:45










  • Thank you, so $x^*$ is the argmin of F, would we consider $y$ to be the argmin of another data set? And what exactly is the $mu$-average? I.e. what is a probability measure?
    – Luis_G
    Jan 26 '13 at 21:55










  • In order to have any concept of a mean we need a probability measure. When finding the mean of numbers $1,2,3,4$ we (implicitly) use the probability measure $mu$ such that $mu({k})=1/4$ for $k=1,2,3,4$. So, if you need the mean of a finite subset of a metric space, using this soft of measure (normalized counting measure) may be appropriate. If the set is infinite, one has to think harder of what the appropriate measure should be.
    – user53153
    Jan 27 '13 at 0:33
















If $x^*$ is an argument of a global minimum of $F$, then we know that the $mu$-average distance from $x^*$ to any point $yin M$ is minimal.
– Ilya
Jan 26 '13 at 21:45




If $x^*$ is an argument of a global minimum of $F$, then we know that the $mu$-average distance from $x^*$ to any point $yin M$ is minimal.
– Ilya
Jan 26 '13 at 21:45












Thank you, so $x^*$ is the argmin of F, would we consider $y$ to be the argmin of another data set? And what exactly is the $mu$-average? I.e. what is a probability measure?
– Luis_G
Jan 26 '13 at 21:55




Thank you, so $x^*$ is the argmin of F, would we consider $y$ to be the argmin of another data set? And what exactly is the $mu$-average? I.e. what is a probability measure?
– Luis_G
Jan 26 '13 at 21:55












In order to have any concept of a mean we need a probability measure. When finding the mean of numbers $1,2,3,4$ we (implicitly) use the probability measure $mu$ such that $mu({k})=1/4$ for $k=1,2,3,4$. So, if you need the mean of a finite subset of a metric space, using this soft of measure (normalized counting measure) may be appropriate. If the set is infinite, one has to think harder of what the appropriate measure should be.
– user53153
Jan 27 '13 at 0:33




In order to have any concept of a mean we need a probability measure. When finding the mean of numbers $1,2,3,4$ we (implicitly) use the probability measure $mu$ such that $mu({k})=1/4$ for $k=1,2,3,4$. So, if you need the mean of a finite subset of a metric space, using this soft of measure (normalized counting measure) may be appropriate. If the set is infinite, one has to think harder of what the appropriate measure should be.
– user53153
Jan 27 '13 at 0:33










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It is always useful to consider a simple example. For example, consider the uniform distribution on $M = [0,1]$ and Euclidean metric $d(x,y) = ||x-y||$. We know that the (usual) mean is $1/2$. So let's check. We aim at minimizing
$$
F(x) = int_0^1 ||x-y||^2 dy = int_0^1 (x-y)^2 dy = x^2y-xy^2+y^3/3 big|_{y=0}^1 = x^2 - x.
$$

It is easy to see that this function attains it's minimum at $x=1/2$.



More general, if the distribution has probability density $p$, we want to minimize
$$
F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy
$$

We compute the minimum by setting the derivative to zero:
$$
d/dx F(x) = int_M d/dx ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy = int_M 2(x-y) p(y) dy \= 2 x int_M p(y) dy - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 2x - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 0
$$

The last equality is equivalent to
$$
x = int_M y p(y) dy
$$

Hence, we have shown that if $d$ is the Euclidean metric, the Fréchet mean of a distribution with density $p$ coincides with the usual mean of this distribution $x = int_M y p(y) dy$



Even more general, there need not be a density, you may want to use the abstract formulation using a probability measure $mu$
$$
F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 d mu(y)
$$






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    It is always useful to consider a simple example. For example, consider the uniform distribution on $M = [0,1]$ and Euclidean metric $d(x,y) = ||x-y||$. We know that the (usual) mean is $1/2$. So let's check. We aim at minimizing
    $$
    F(x) = int_0^1 ||x-y||^2 dy = int_0^1 (x-y)^2 dy = x^2y-xy^2+y^3/3 big|_{y=0}^1 = x^2 - x.
    $$

    It is easy to see that this function attains it's minimum at $x=1/2$.



    More general, if the distribution has probability density $p$, we want to minimize
    $$
    F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy
    $$

    We compute the minimum by setting the derivative to zero:
    $$
    d/dx F(x) = int_M d/dx ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy = int_M 2(x-y) p(y) dy \= 2 x int_M p(y) dy - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 2x - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 0
    $$

    The last equality is equivalent to
    $$
    x = int_M y p(y) dy
    $$

    Hence, we have shown that if $d$ is the Euclidean metric, the Fréchet mean of a distribution with density $p$ coincides with the usual mean of this distribution $x = int_M y p(y) dy$



    Even more general, there need not be a density, you may want to use the abstract formulation using a probability measure $mu$
    $$
    F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 d mu(y)
    $$






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      It is always useful to consider a simple example. For example, consider the uniform distribution on $M = [0,1]$ and Euclidean metric $d(x,y) = ||x-y||$. We know that the (usual) mean is $1/2$. So let's check. We aim at minimizing
      $$
      F(x) = int_0^1 ||x-y||^2 dy = int_0^1 (x-y)^2 dy = x^2y-xy^2+y^3/3 big|_{y=0}^1 = x^2 - x.
      $$

      It is easy to see that this function attains it's minimum at $x=1/2$.



      More general, if the distribution has probability density $p$, we want to minimize
      $$
      F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy
      $$

      We compute the minimum by setting the derivative to zero:
      $$
      d/dx F(x) = int_M d/dx ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy = int_M 2(x-y) p(y) dy \= 2 x int_M p(y) dy - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 2x - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 0
      $$

      The last equality is equivalent to
      $$
      x = int_M y p(y) dy
      $$

      Hence, we have shown that if $d$ is the Euclidean metric, the Fréchet mean of a distribution with density $p$ coincides with the usual mean of this distribution $x = int_M y p(y) dy$



      Even more general, there need not be a density, you may want to use the abstract formulation using a probability measure $mu$
      $$
      F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 d mu(y)
      $$






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        It is always useful to consider a simple example. For example, consider the uniform distribution on $M = [0,1]$ and Euclidean metric $d(x,y) = ||x-y||$. We know that the (usual) mean is $1/2$. So let's check. We aim at minimizing
        $$
        F(x) = int_0^1 ||x-y||^2 dy = int_0^1 (x-y)^2 dy = x^2y-xy^2+y^3/3 big|_{y=0}^1 = x^2 - x.
        $$

        It is easy to see that this function attains it's minimum at $x=1/2$.



        More general, if the distribution has probability density $p$, we want to minimize
        $$
        F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy
        $$

        We compute the minimum by setting the derivative to zero:
        $$
        d/dx F(x) = int_M d/dx ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy = int_M 2(x-y) p(y) dy \= 2 x int_M p(y) dy - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 2x - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 0
        $$

        The last equality is equivalent to
        $$
        x = int_M y p(y) dy
        $$

        Hence, we have shown that if $d$ is the Euclidean metric, the Fréchet mean of a distribution with density $p$ coincides with the usual mean of this distribution $x = int_M y p(y) dy$



        Even more general, there need not be a density, you may want to use the abstract formulation using a probability measure $mu$
        $$
        F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 d mu(y)
        $$






        share|cite|improve this answer












        It is always useful to consider a simple example. For example, consider the uniform distribution on $M = [0,1]$ and Euclidean metric $d(x,y) = ||x-y||$. We know that the (usual) mean is $1/2$. So let's check. We aim at minimizing
        $$
        F(x) = int_0^1 ||x-y||^2 dy = int_0^1 (x-y)^2 dy = x^2y-xy^2+y^3/3 big|_{y=0}^1 = x^2 - x.
        $$

        It is easy to see that this function attains it's minimum at $x=1/2$.



        More general, if the distribution has probability density $p$, we want to minimize
        $$
        F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy
        $$

        We compute the minimum by setting the derivative to zero:
        $$
        d/dx F(x) = int_M d/dx ||x-y||^2 p(y) dy = int_M 2(x-y) p(y) dy \= 2 x int_M p(y) dy - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 2x - 2int_M y p(y) dy = 0
        $$

        The last equality is equivalent to
        $$
        x = int_M y p(y) dy
        $$

        Hence, we have shown that if $d$ is the Euclidean metric, the Fréchet mean of a distribution with density $p$ coincides with the usual mean of this distribution $x = int_M y p(y) dy$



        Even more general, there need not be a density, you may want to use the abstract formulation using a probability measure $mu$
        $$
        F(x) = int_M ||x-y||^2 d mu(y)
        $$







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