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          Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




          Yes - the Heartbleed bug involved memory leaks out of the HTTP server such that:




          We attacked ourselves from outside, without leaving a trace. Without
          using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal
          from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, ...




          Aside from bugs like that,




          Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to
          misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate
          chain?




          Sure. If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key.



          As @duskwuff points out in the comments, there are protections against this. Neither Apache nor NGINX will send a key PEM that's included in a certificate file; they will silently strip it out (which, I'm willing to bet, is a protection put in place after some number of events where people did what I suggested might work).



          Other misconfigurations, such as incorrect web root combined with loose permissions or excessive web server privileges, will also leak the key, but those misconfigurations are both mundane and extreme (e.g., you really have to be trying to break things that badly).



          Doing so is not recommended.






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            I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
            – safesploit
            Nov 26 at 22:47










          • If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
            – Lie Ryan
            Nov 26 at 23:07








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            @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
            – Mark
            Nov 27 at 4:15










          • I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
            – Lie Ryan
            Nov 27 at 7:09






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            "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
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            Nov 27 at 7:12


















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          Yes, via either misconfiguration or as-yet unknown misconfigurations. I won't repeat the content of @gowenfawr 's answer.



          It is worth mentioning as an aside that there are a number of possible misconfigurations that do not directly leak the key but could allow an attacker to decipher parts of the communication. Part of the work towards TLS 1.3 aims to mitigate this via removing support for certain ciphers and other potentially insecure configurations (https://blog.cloudflare.com/rfc-8446-aka-tls-1-3/).



          Likewise there are other things that can cause loss of confidentiality; such as the SSL v2 vulnerability known as DROWN (https://drownattack.com/) where previously SSL v2 was known to be insecure but many installations left it enabled for compatibility reasons.



          While not ideal, this led to the possibility of extracting the session key from a server that used the same keys or certificate but happened to be running SSL v2 via a padding oracle, even exposing the contents of TLS 1.2 services using the same certificate (after observing a number of connections between the victim and the server).




          DROWN shows that merely supporting SSLv2 is a threat to modern servers and clients. It allows an attacker to decrypt modern TLS connections between up-to-date clients and servers by sending probes to a server that supports SSLv2 and uses the same private key.




          In terms of directly leaking the key, you can also serve up your private key on a misconfigured web server, or via a directory traversal (or similar) issue






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            Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
            – dave_thompson_085
            Nov 27 at 7:02












          • Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
            – richard
            Nov 28 at 22:26










          • @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
            – dave_thompson_085
            Nov 29 at 1:09












          • @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
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            Nov 29 at 2:30




















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          Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




          Strictly speaking, a private key should have permissions dr--------, with root:root. So, only the root user can read the certificate. If this is misconfigured and the web server has access to the private key, then in some circumstances such as the web server is compromised. Then here we could see the private key being 'leaked', unwittingly by the web server. This, of course, applies to any program which has read access to the private key though.




          Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate chain?




          By the configuration, I did with Apache 2, no! So, one of my web server configurations involves:



              SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.cert.pem
          SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.key.pem
          SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/ssl/fullchain.pem


          So, while I understand your concern regarding a 'bad admin' placing the private key within the fullchain, it simply is not possible within Apache 2 vanilla, unless Apache was modified to accept this type of configuration.



          For context:




          • Public keys -r--r--r-- root root

          • Private keys -r-------- root root






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            Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
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            Nov 27 at 5:03






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            @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
            – grawity
            Nov 27 at 7:33








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            Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
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            Nov 27 at 12:45










          • @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
            – Dave Sherohman
            Nov 27 at 12:46






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            Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
            – safesploit
            Nov 27 at 13:22


















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          I discovered a flaw in Traefik not too long ago where an API endpoint was leaking the private key for their SSL certificate (CVE-2018-15598).



          https://twitter.com/edoverflow/status/1031267058615508994



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            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Yes - the Heartbleed bug involved memory leaks out of the HTTP server such that:




            We attacked ourselves from outside, without leaving a trace. Without
            using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal
            from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, ...




            Aside from bugs like that,




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to
            misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate
            chain?




            Sure. If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key.



            As @duskwuff points out in the comments, there are protections against this. Neither Apache nor NGINX will send a key PEM that's included in a certificate file; they will silently strip it out (which, I'm willing to bet, is a protection put in place after some number of events where people did what I suggested might work).



            Other misconfigurations, such as incorrect web root combined with loose permissions or excessive web server privileges, will also leak the key, but those misconfigurations are both mundane and extreme (e.g., you really have to be trying to break things that badly).



            Doing so is not recommended.






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              I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
              – safesploit
              Nov 26 at 22:47










            • If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 26 at 23:07








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              @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
              – Mark
              Nov 27 at 4:15










            • I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 27 at 7:09






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              "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
              – duskwuff
              Nov 27 at 7:12















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            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Yes - the Heartbleed bug involved memory leaks out of the HTTP server such that:




            We attacked ourselves from outside, without leaving a trace. Without
            using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal
            from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, ...




            Aside from bugs like that,




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to
            misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate
            chain?




            Sure. If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key.



            As @duskwuff points out in the comments, there are protections against this. Neither Apache nor NGINX will send a key PEM that's included in a certificate file; they will silently strip it out (which, I'm willing to bet, is a protection put in place after some number of events where people did what I suggested might work).



            Other misconfigurations, such as incorrect web root combined with loose permissions or excessive web server privileges, will also leak the key, but those misconfigurations are both mundane and extreme (e.g., you really have to be trying to break things that badly).



            Doing so is not recommended.






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              I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
              – safesploit
              Nov 26 at 22:47










            • If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 26 at 23:07








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              @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
              – Mark
              Nov 27 at 4:15










            • I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 27 at 7:09






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              "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
              – duskwuff
              Nov 27 at 7:12













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            up vote
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            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Yes - the Heartbleed bug involved memory leaks out of the HTTP server such that:




            We attacked ourselves from outside, without leaving a trace. Without
            using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal
            from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, ...




            Aside from bugs like that,




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to
            misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate
            chain?




            Sure. If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key.



            As @duskwuff points out in the comments, there are protections against this. Neither Apache nor NGINX will send a key PEM that's included in a certificate file; they will silently strip it out (which, I'm willing to bet, is a protection put in place after some number of events where people did what I suggested might work).



            Other misconfigurations, such as incorrect web root combined with loose permissions or excessive web server privileges, will also leak the key, but those misconfigurations are both mundane and extreme (e.g., you really have to be trying to break things that badly).



            Doing so is not recommended.






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            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Yes - the Heartbleed bug involved memory leaks out of the HTTP server such that:




            We attacked ourselves from outside, without leaving a trace. Without
            using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal
            from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, ...




            Aside from bugs like that,




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to
            misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate
            chain?




            Sure. If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key.



            As @duskwuff points out in the comments, there are protections against this. Neither Apache nor NGINX will send a key PEM that's included in a certificate file; they will silently strip it out (which, I'm willing to bet, is a protection put in place after some number of events where people did what I suggested might work).



            Other misconfigurations, such as incorrect web root combined with loose permissions or excessive web server privileges, will also leak the key, but those misconfigurations are both mundane and extreme (e.g., you really have to be trying to break things that badly).



            Doing so is not recommended.







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              I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
              – safesploit
              Nov 26 at 22:47










            • If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 26 at 23:07








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              @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
              – Mark
              Nov 27 at 4:15










            • I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 27 at 7:09






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              "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
              – duskwuff
              Nov 27 at 7:12














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              I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
              – safesploit
              Nov 26 at 22:47










            • If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 26 at 23:07








            • 4




              @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
              – Mark
              Nov 27 at 4:15










            • I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
              – Lie Ryan
              Nov 27 at 7:09






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              "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
              – duskwuff
              Nov 27 at 7:12








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            I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
            – safesploit
            Nov 26 at 22:47




            I had completely forgotten about Heartbleed. Wikipedia has a good page about Heartbleed - Root causes, possible lessons, and reactions
            – safesploit
            Nov 26 at 22:47












            If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
            – Lie Ryan
            Nov 26 at 23:07






            If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile then Boom! There goes the private key. can you provide reference that this is what will actually happen? AFAIK, this shouldn't happen as people commonly put all the three SSLCertificate*File into the same file.
            – Lie Ryan
            Nov 26 at 23:07






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            @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
            – Mark
            Nov 27 at 4:15




            @LieRyan, how about an easier-to-understand misconfiguration that has the same impact: specifying / as DocumentRoot?
            – Mark
            Nov 27 at 4:15












            I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
            – Lie Ryan
            Nov 27 at 7:09




            I think putting the private key to serve as static file as clearly out of scope for this question. I interpret the question as the more likely scenario of how keys can be leaked from a configuration that looks reasonable.
            – Lie Ryan
            Nov 27 at 7:09




            9




            9




            "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
            – duskwuff
            Nov 27 at 7:12




            "If you specify the wrong file in, for example, SSLCertificateChainFile" -- then the server will simply fail to start up. The private key isn't a certificate file.
            – duskwuff
            Nov 27 at 7:12












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            Yes, via either misconfiguration or as-yet unknown misconfigurations. I won't repeat the content of @gowenfawr 's answer.



            It is worth mentioning as an aside that there are a number of possible misconfigurations that do not directly leak the key but could allow an attacker to decipher parts of the communication. Part of the work towards TLS 1.3 aims to mitigate this via removing support for certain ciphers and other potentially insecure configurations (https://blog.cloudflare.com/rfc-8446-aka-tls-1-3/).



            Likewise there are other things that can cause loss of confidentiality; such as the SSL v2 vulnerability known as DROWN (https://drownattack.com/) where previously SSL v2 was known to be insecure but many installations left it enabled for compatibility reasons.



            While not ideal, this led to the possibility of extracting the session key from a server that used the same keys or certificate but happened to be running SSL v2 via a padding oracle, even exposing the contents of TLS 1.2 services using the same certificate (after observing a number of connections between the victim and the server).




            DROWN shows that merely supporting SSLv2 is a threat to modern servers and clients. It allows an attacker to decrypt modern TLS connections between up-to-date clients and servers by sending probes to a server that supports SSLv2 and uses the same private key.




            In terms of directly leaking the key, you can also serve up your private key on a misconfigured web server, or via a directory traversal (or similar) issue






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              Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 27 at 7:02












            • Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
              – richard
              Nov 28 at 22:26










            • @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 29 at 1:09












            • @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 29 at 2:30

















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            Yes, via either misconfiguration or as-yet unknown misconfigurations. I won't repeat the content of @gowenfawr 's answer.



            It is worth mentioning as an aside that there are a number of possible misconfigurations that do not directly leak the key but could allow an attacker to decipher parts of the communication. Part of the work towards TLS 1.3 aims to mitigate this via removing support for certain ciphers and other potentially insecure configurations (https://blog.cloudflare.com/rfc-8446-aka-tls-1-3/).



            Likewise there are other things that can cause loss of confidentiality; such as the SSL v2 vulnerability known as DROWN (https://drownattack.com/) where previously SSL v2 was known to be insecure but many installations left it enabled for compatibility reasons.



            While not ideal, this led to the possibility of extracting the session key from a server that used the same keys or certificate but happened to be running SSL v2 via a padding oracle, even exposing the contents of TLS 1.2 services using the same certificate (after observing a number of connections between the victim and the server).




            DROWN shows that merely supporting SSLv2 is a threat to modern servers and clients. It allows an attacker to decrypt modern TLS connections between up-to-date clients and servers by sending probes to a server that supports SSLv2 and uses the same private key.




            In terms of directly leaking the key, you can also serve up your private key on a misconfigured web server, or via a directory traversal (or similar) issue






            share|improve this answer



















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              Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 27 at 7:02












            • Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
              – richard
              Nov 28 at 22:26










            • @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 29 at 1:09












            • @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 29 at 2:30















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            Yes, via either misconfiguration or as-yet unknown misconfigurations. I won't repeat the content of @gowenfawr 's answer.



            It is worth mentioning as an aside that there are a number of possible misconfigurations that do not directly leak the key but could allow an attacker to decipher parts of the communication. Part of the work towards TLS 1.3 aims to mitigate this via removing support for certain ciphers and other potentially insecure configurations (https://blog.cloudflare.com/rfc-8446-aka-tls-1-3/).



            Likewise there are other things that can cause loss of confidentiality; such as the SSL v2 vulnerability known as DROWN (https://drownattack.com/) where previously SSL v2 was known to be insecure but many installations left it enabled for compatibility reasons.



            While not ideal, this led to the possibility of extracting the session key from a server that used the same keys or certificate but happened to be running SSL v2 via a padding oracle, even exposing the contents of TLS 1.2 services using the same certificate (after observing a number of connections between the victim and the server).




            DROWN shows that merely supporting SSLv2 is a threat to modern servers and clients. It allows an attacker to decrypt modern TLS connections between up-to-date clients and servers by sending probes to a server that supports SSLv2 and uses the same private key.




            In terms of directly leaking the key, you can also serve up your private key on a misconfigured web server, or via a directory traversal (or similar) issue






            share|improve this answer














            Yes, via either misconfiguration or as-yet unknown misconfigurations. I won't repeat the content of @gowenfawr 's answer.



            It is worth mentioning as an aside that there are a number of possible misconfigurations that do not directly leak the key but could allow an attacker to decipher parts of the communication. Part of the work towards TLS 1.3 aims to mitigate this via removing support for certain ciphers and other potentially insecure configurations (https://blog.cloudflare.com/rfc-8446-aka-tls-1-3/).



            Likewise there are other things that can cause loss of confidentiality; such as the SSL v2 vulnerability known as DROWN (https://drownattack.com/) where previously SSL v2 was known to be insecure but many installations left it enabled for compatibility reasons.



            While not ideal, this led to the possibility of extracting the session key from a server that used the same keys or certificate but happened to be running SSL v2 via a padding oracle, even exposing the contents of TLS 1.2 services using the same certificate (after observing a number of connections between the victim and the server).




            DROWN shows that merely supporting SSLv2 is a threat to modern servers and clients. It allows an attacker to decrypt modern TLS connections between up-to-date clients and servers by sending probes to a server that supports SSLv2 and uses the same private key.




            In terms of directly leaking the key, you can also serve up your private key on a misconfigured web server, or via a directory traversal (or similar) issue







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            answered Nov 26 at 22:52









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              Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 27 at 7:02












            • Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
              – richard
              Nov 28 at 22:26










            • @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 29 at 1:09












            • @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 29 at 2:30
















            • 3




              Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 27 at 7:02












            • Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
              – richard
              Nov 28 at 22:26










            • @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
              – dave_thompson_085
              Nov 29 at 1:09












            • @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 29 at 2:30










            3




            3




            Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
            – dave_thompson_085
            Nov 27 at 7:02






            Nit: DROWN doesn't extract, or otherwise recover, the server's configured privatekey, only learn a per-session secret (which gives the per-session working keys).
            – dave_thompson_085
            Nov 27 at 7:02














            Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
            – richard
            Nov 28 at 22:26




            Thanks for the feedback @dave_thompson_085 and Maarten-Bodewes. I've edited the answer so hopefully it is not misleading anyone, but it probably applies less to the question now ;)
            – richard
            Nov 28 at 22:26












            @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
            – dave_thompson_085
            Nov 29 at 1:09






            @MaartenBodewes+ 1.3 prohibits plain-RSA keyexchange i.e. ClientKX = RSA-encrypt(premaster) and (unless PSK) requires [EC]DHE thus PFS so stealing the server key does as you say still allow impersonation -- unless and until (discovered and) revoked -- but does not allow decrypting prior data. (<=1.2 of course can do PFS, but doesn't require it.)
            – dave_thompson_085
            Nov 29 at 1:09














            @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
            – Maarten Bodewes
            Nov 29 at 2:30






            @dave_thompson_085 I know all that. The comment was for a previous answer in which it was unclear what "the key" was. The answer has been cleared up now, so I just removed the comment.
            – Maarten Bodewes
            Nov 29 at 2:30












            up vote
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            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Strictly speaking, a private key should have permissions dr--------, with root:root. So, only the root user can read the certificate. If this is misconfigured and the web server has access to the private key, then in some circumstances such as the web server is compromised. Then here we could see the private key being 'leaked', unwittingly by the web server. This, of course, applies to any program which has read access to the private key though.




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate chain?




            By the configuration, I did with Apache 2, no! So, one of my web server configurations involves:



                SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.cert.pem
            SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.key.pem
            SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/ssl/fullchain.pem


            So, while I understand your concern regarding a 'bad admin' placing the private key within the fullchain, it simply is not possible within Apache 2 vanilla, unless Apache was modified to accept this type of configuration.



            For context:




            • Public keys -r--r--r-- root root

            • Private keys -r-------- root root






            share|improve this answer

















            • 6




              Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
              – Shadow
              Nov 27 at 5:03






            • 2




              @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
              – grawity
              Nov 27 at 7:33








            • 2




              Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 27 at 12:45










            • @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
              – Dave Sherohman
              Nov 27 at 12:46






            • 1




              Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
              – safesploit
              Nov 27 at 13:22















            up vote
            1
            down vote














            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Strictly speaking, a private key should have permissions dr--------, with root:root. So, only the root user can read the certificate. If this is misconfigured and the web server has access to the private key, then in some circumstances such as the web server is compromised. Then here we could see the private key being 'leaked', unwittingly by the web server. This, of course, applies to any program which has read access to the private key though.




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate chain?




            By the configuration, I did with Apache 2, no! So, one of my web server configurations involves:



                SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.cert.pem
            SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.key.pem
            SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/ssl/fullchain.pem


            So, while I understand your concern regarding a 'bad admin' placing the private key within the fullchain, it simply is not possible within Apache 2 vanilla, unless Apache was modified to accept this type of configuration.



            For context:




            • Public keys -r--r--r-- root root

            • Private keys -r-------- root root






            share|improve this answer

















            • 6




              Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
              – Shadow
              Nov 27 at 5:03






            • 2




              @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
              – grawity
              Nov 27 at 7:33








            • 2




              Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 27 at 12:45










            • @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
              – Dave Sherohman
              Nov 27 at 12:46






            • 1




              Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
              – safesploit
              Nov 27 at 13:22













            up vote
            1
            down vote










            up vote
            1
            down vote










            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Strictly speaking, a private key should have permissions dr--------, with root:root. So, only the root user can read the certificate. If this is misconfigured and the web server has access to the private key, then in some circumstances such as the web server is compromised. Then here we could see the private key being 'leaked', unwittingly by the web server. This, of course, applies to any program which has read access to the private key though.




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate chain?




            By the configuration, I did with Apache 2, no! So, one of my web server configurations involves:



                SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.cert.pem
            SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.key.pem
            SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/ssl/fullchain.pem


            So, while I understand your concern regarding a 'bad admin' placing the private key within the fullchain, it simply is not possible within Apache 2 vanilla, unless Apache was modified to accept this type of configuration.



            For context:




            • Public keys -r--r--r-- root root

            • Private keys -r-------- root root






            share|improve this answer













            Are there any known cases of HTTPS websites leaking the private key of their SSL certificate?




            Strictly speaking, a private key should have permissions dr--------, with root:root. So, only the root user can read the certificate. If this is misconfigured and the web server has access to the private key, then in some circumstances such as the web server is compromised. Then here we could see the private key being 'leaked', unwittingly by the web server. This, of course, applies to any program which has read access to the private key though.




            Is it even technically possible for a bad website admin to misconfigure a site to send the private key as part of the certificate chain?




            By the configuration, I did with Apache 2, no! So, one of my web server configurations involves:



                SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.cert.pem
            SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/safesploit.com.key.pem
            SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/ssl/fullchain.pem


            So, while I understand your concern regarding a 'bad admin' placing the private key within the fullchain, it simply is not possible within Apache 2 vanilla, unless Apache was modified to accept this type of configuration.



            For context:




            • Public keys -r--r--r-- root root

            • Private keys -r-------- root root







            share|improve this answer












            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer










            answered Nov 26 at 22:41









            safesploit

            1,642418




            1,642418








            • 6




              Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
              – Shadow
              Nov 27 at 5:03






            • 2




              @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
              – grawity
              Nov 27 at 7:33








            • 2




              Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 27 at 12:45










            • @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
              – Dave Sherohman
              Nov 27 at 12:46






            • 1




              Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
              – safesploit
              Nov 27 at 13:22














            • 6




              Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
              – Shadow
              Nov 27 at 5:03






            • 2




              @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
              – grawity
              Nov 27 at 7:33








            • 2




              Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
              – Maarten Bodewes
              Nov 27 at 12:45










            • @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
              – Dave Sherohman
              Nov 27 at 12:46






            • 1




              Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
              – safesploit
              Nov 27 at 13:22








            6




            6




            Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
            – Shadow
            Nov 27 at 5:03




            Hang on... if a webserver cannot access the private key, how exactly is it supposed to serve https?
            – Shadow
            Nov 27 at 5:03




            2




            2




            @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
            – grawity
            Nov 27 at 7:33






            @Shadow: In theory, it could use an external key storage which only allows making signatures, such as a PKCS#11 module in Apache, or something similar to ssh-agent in OpenSSH's sshd. But I think safesploit's post is talking about the more usual type of privilege separation, in which the 'listener' httpd process can access the private key but the 'worker' processes (which interpret HTTP requests) cannot.
            – grawity
            Nov 27 at 7:33






            2




            2




            Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
            – Maarten Bodewes
            Nov 27 at 12:45




            Sorry, but that's a bit too theoretic in my opinion. If the root is required to act as a signing server then please indicate this. Or are you proposing to run the server as root? Anyway, the private key is needed to place the signature within the server message of the handshake - please indicate how this is performed in your scheme.
            – Maarten Bodewes
            Nov 27 at 12:45












            @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
            – Dave Sherohman
            Nov 27 at 12:46




            @Shadow - apache generally starts as root (required to be able to bind to port 80 and/or 443), which would also allow it to read the private key file. After this initial startup is complete, it then drops root privileges and/or spawns unprivileged children so that the request-handling processes don't have root powers.
            – Dave Sherohman
            Nov 27 at 12:46




            1




            1




            Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
            – safesploit
            Nov 27 at 13:22




            Regarding Apache and the private key -r-------- root root How does apache threads, running as non-root, handle private keys. @DaveSherohman is correct, Apache does start with root privileges so it can bind to privileged ports, and then the main httpd process continues to run as the root user, but the child processes run as a less privileged user. How Apache Works.
            – safesploit
            Nov 27 at 13:22










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            I discovered a flaw in Traefik not too long ago where an API endpoint was leaking the private key for their SSL certificate (CVE-2018-15598).



            https://twitter.com/edoverflow/status/1031267058615508994



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              I discovered a flaw in Traefik not too long ago where an API endpoint was leaking the private key for their SSL certificate (CVE-2018-15598).



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                I discovered a flaw in Traefik not too long ago where an API endpoint was leaking the private key for their SSL certificate (CVE-2018-15598).



                https://twitter.com/edoverflow/status/1031267058615508994



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                https://twitter.com/edoverflow/status/1031267058615508994



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