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There are two forms of inline assembly, one is



asm{
//...
}


the other



asm(
"..."//work in my clang compiler
);


and __asm and so on, so what is the difference?
definitely not just about curly braces and brackets, i hope










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    The first kind is MSVC style inline assembly while the second one is gcc style inline assembly. Entirely different approaches, the second one is usually superior for the situations where you'd use inline assembly in production code today.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:06






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    @Lundin if one compiler gives you hammer, and other gives you toolbox (including hammer), then the other is superior. (which is basically the analogy to MSCC inline asm vs gcc/clang inline asm) ... also you basically shouldn't use either, unless you really know what you are doing: gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DontUseInlineAsm

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    @Ped7g These aren't the only forms, as there's more to programming than your PC. There's also hammers with wooden shafts, hammers with metal shaft, hammers with metal shaft + rubber for handle, hammers that can remove nails etc etc. Now, what I would like is a standardized saw. Which one of these hammer types is best for sawing?

    – Lundin
    Nov 21 '18 at 13:02






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    @Caleb I don't quite feel like making an answer right now, but gcc-style syntax is superior because it allows the programmer to specify a lot of metadata the compiler can use for optimisations. Also, gcc-style syntax allows the compiler to place variables in registers which isn't possible with MSVC-style assemble. While the latter might be a bit more user-friendly, it is pretty much obsolete with today's reasons why people write inline assembly at all.

    – fuz
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  • What is the difference between 'asm', '__asm' and '__asm__'?

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There are two forms of inline assembly, one is



asm{
//...
}


the other



asm(
"..."//work in my clang compiler
);


and __asm and so on, so what is the difference?
definitely not just about curly braces and brackets, i hope










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    The first kind is MSVC style inline assembly while the second one is gcc style inline assembly. Entirely different approaches, the second one is usually superior for the situations where you'd use inline assembly in production code today.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:06






  • 2





    @Lundin if one compiler gives you hammer, and other gives you toolbox (including hammer), then the other is superior. (which is basically the analogy to MSCC inline asm vs gcc/clang inline asm) ... also you basically shouldn't use either, unless you really know what you are doing: gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DontUseInlineAsm

    – Ped7g
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:46








  • 1





    @Ped7g These aren't the only forms, as there's more to programming than your PC. There's also hammers with wooden shafts, hammers with metal shaft, hammers with metal shaft + rubber for handle, hammers that can remove nails etc etc. Now, what I would like is a standardized saw. Which one of these hammer types is best for sawing?

    – Lundin
    Nov 21 '18 at 13:02






  • 1





    @Caleb I don't quite feel like making an answer right now, but gcc-style syntax is superior because it allows the programmer to specify a lot of metadata the compiler can use for optimisations. Also, gcc-style syntax allows the compiler to place variables in registers which isn't possible with MSVC-style assemble. While the latter might be a bit more user-friendly, it is pretty much obsolete with today's reasons why people write inline assembly at all.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 17:44














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  • What is the difference between 'asm', '__asm' and '__asm__'?

    4 answers




There are two forms of inline assembly, one is



asm{
//...
}


the other



asm(
"..."//work in my clang compiler
);


and __asm and so on, so what is the difference?
definitely not just about curly braces and brackets, i hope










share|improve this question

















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  • What is the difference between 'asm', '__asm' and '__asm__'?

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There are two forms of inline assembly, one is



asm{
//...
}


the other



asm(
"..."//work in my clang compiler
);


and __asm and so on, so what is the difference?
definitely not just about curly braces and brackets, i hope





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  • That's the great thing about standards: there are so many to choose from.

    – Bathsheba
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:56






  • 1





    The first kind is MSVC style inline assembly while the second one is gcc style inline assembly. Entirely different approaches, the second one is usually superior for the situations where you'd use inline assembly in production code today.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:06






  • 2





    @Lundin if one compiler gives you hammer, and other gives you toolbox (including hammer), then the other is superior. (which is basically the analogy to MSCC inline asm vs gcc/clang inline asm) ... also you basically shouldn't use either, unless you really know what you are doing: gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DontUseInlineAsm

    – Ped7g
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:46








  • 1





    @Ped7g These aren't the only forms, as there's more to programming than your PC. There's also hammers with wooden shafts, hammers with metal shaft, hammers with metal shaft + rubber for handle, hammers that can remove nails etc etc. Now, what I would like is a standardized saw. Which one of these hammer types is best for sawing?

    – Lundin
    Nov 21 '18 at 13:02






  • 1





    @Caleb I don't quite feel like making an answer right now, but gcc-style syntax is superior because it allows the programmer to specify a lot of metadata the compiler can use for optimisations. Also, gcc-style syntax allows the compiler to place variables in registers which isn't possible with MSVC-style assemble. While the latter might be a bit more user-friendly, it is pretty much obsolete with today's reasons why people write inline assembly at all.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 17:44



















  • That's the great thing about standards: there are so many to choose from.

    – Bathsheba
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:56






  • 1





    The first kind is MSVC style inline assembly while the second one is gcc style inline assembly. Entirely different approaches, the second one is usually superior for the situations where you'd use inline assembly in production code today.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:06






  • 2





    @Lundin if one compiler gives you hammer, and other gives you toolbox (including hammer), then the other is superior. (which is basically the analogy to MSCC inline asm vs gcc/clang inline asm) ... also you basically shouldn't use either, unless you really know what you are doing: gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DontUseInlineAsm

    – Ped7g
    Nov 21 '18 at 12:46








  • 1





    @Ped7g These aren't the only forms, as there's more to programming than your PC. There's also hammers with wooden shafts, hammers with metal shaft, hammers with metal shaft + rubber for handle, hammers that can remove nails etc etc. Now, what I would like is a standardized saw. Which one of these hammer types is best for sawing?

    – Lundin
    Nov 21 '18 at 13:02






  • 1





    @Caleb I don't quite feel like making an answer right now, but gcc-style syntax is superior because it allows the programmer to specify a lot of metadata the compiler can use for optimisations. Also, gcc-style syntax allows the compiler to place variables in registers which isn't possible with MSVC-style assemble. While the latter might be a bit more user-friendly, it is pretty much obsolete with today's reasons why people write inline assembly at all.

    – fuz
    Nov 21 '18 at 17:44

















That's the great thing about standards: there are so many to choose from.

– Bathsheba
Nov 21 '18 at 11:56





That's the great thing about standards: there are so many to choose from.

– Bathsheba
Nov 21 '18 at 11:56




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1





The first kind is MSVC style inline assembly while the second one is gcc style inline assembly. Entirely different approaches, the second one is usually superior for the situations where you'd use inline assembly in production code today.

– fuz
Nov 21 '18 at 12:06





The first kind is MSVC style inline assembly while the second one is gcc style inline assembly. Entirely different approaches, the second one is usually superior for the situations where you'd use inline assembly in production code today.

– fuz
Nov 21 '18 at 12:06




2




2





@Lundin if one compiler gives you hammer, and other gives you toolbox (including hammer), then the other is superior. (which is basically the analogy to MSCC inline asm vs gcc/clang inline asm) ... also you basically shouldn't use either, unless you really know what you are doing: gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DontUseInlineAsm

– Ped7g
Nov 21 '18 at 12:46







@Lundin if one compiler gives you hammer, and other gives you toolbox (including hammer), then the other is superior. (which is basically the analogy to MSCC inline asm vs gcc/clang inline asm) ... also you basically shouldn't use either, unless you really know what you are doing: gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DontUseInlineAsm

– Ped7g
Nov 21 '18 at 12:46






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@Ped7g These aren't the only forms, as there's more to programming than your PC. There's also hammers with wooden shafts, hammers with metal shaft, hammers with metal shaft + rubber for handle, hammers that can remove nails etc etc. Now, what I would like is a standardized saw. Which one of these hammer types is best for sawing?

– Lundin
Nov 21 '18 at 13:02





@Ped7g These aren't the only forms, as there's more to programming than your PC. There's also hammers with wooden shafts, hammers with metal shaft, hammers with metal shaft + rubber for handle, hammers that can remove nails etc etc. Now, what I would like is a standardized saw. Which one of these hammer types is best for sawing?

– Lundin
Nov 21 '18 at 13:02




1




1





@Caleb I don't quite feel like making an answer right now, but gcc-style syntax is superior because it allows the programmer to specify a lot of metadata the compiler can use for optimisations. Also, gcc-style syntax allows the compiler to place variables in registers which isn't possible with MSVC-style assemble. While the latter might be a bit more user-friendly, it is pretty much obsolete with today's reasons why people write inline assembly at all.

– fuz
Nov 21 '18 at 17:44





@Caleb I don't quite feel like making an answer right now, but gcc-style syntax is superior because it allows the programmer to specify a lot of metadata the compiler can use for optimisations. Also, gcc-style syntax allows the compiler to place variables in registers which isn't possible with MSVC-style assemble. While the latter might be a bit more user-friendly, it is pretty much obsolete with today's reasons why people write inline assembly at all.

– fuz
Nov 21 '18 at 17:44












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The C language does not support inline assembler, so either form is non-standard. Every compiler tends to do this differently and therefore the syntax will vary.



Some compilers use double underscore __ to let through all non-standard keywords even when compiling in C standard mode.



Unlike C, C++ does support it through standardization, in the form of asm("instruction");.






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    Annex J of the C standard is informative and states that if asm is supported (and it doesn't have to be), then it ought to be of the form



    asm ( character-string-literal );


    In other words, the notation using the braces is arguably less conventional than the one using the parentheses.



    (The requirements in C++ are stronger.)






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    • C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

      – Lundin
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      J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

      – Paul Hankin
      Nov 21 '18 at 12:19






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      @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

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    The C language does not support inline assembler, so either form is non-standard. Every compiler tends to do this differently and therefore the syntax will vary.



    Some compilers use double underscore __ to let through all non-standard keywords even when compiling in C standard mode.



    Unlike C, C++ does support it through standardization, in the form of asm("instruction");.






    share|improve this answer




























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      The C language does not support inline assembler, so either form is non-standard. Every compiler tends to do this differently and therefore the syntax will vary.



      Some compilers use double underscore __ to let through all non-standard keywords even when compiling in C standard mode.



      Unlike C, C++ does support it through standardization, in the form of asm("instruction");.






      share|improve this answer


























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        The C language does not support inline assembler, so either form is non-standard. Every compiler tends to do this differently and therefore the syntax will vary.



        Some compilers use double underscore __ to let through all non-standard keywords even when compiling in C standard mode.



        Unlike C, C++ does support it through standardization, in the form of asm("instruction");.






        share|improve this answer













        The C language does not support inline assembler, so either form is non-standard. Every compiler tends to do this differently and therefore the syntax will vary.



        Some compilers use double underscore __ to let through all non-standard keywords even when compiling in C standard mode.



        Unlike C, C++ does support it through standardization, in the form of asm("instruction");.







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            Annex J of the C standard is informative and states that if asm is supported (and it doesn't have to be), then it ought to be of the form



            asm ( character-string-literal );


            In other words, the notation using the braces is arguably less conventional than the one using the parentheses.



            (The requirements in C++ are stronger.)






            share|improve this answer


























            • C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:12






            • 1





              J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

              – Paul Hankin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:19






            • 1





              @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:21


















            0














            Annex J of the C standard is informative and states that if asm is supported (and it doesn't have to be), then it ought to be of the form



            asm ( character-string-literal );


            In other words, the notation using the braces is arguably less conventional than the one using the parentheses.



            (The requirements in C++ are stronger.)






            share|improve this answer


























            • C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:12






            • 1





              J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

              – Paul Hankin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:19






            • 1





              @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:21
















            0












            0








            0







            Annex J of the C standard is informative and states that if asm is supported (and it doesn't have to be), then it ought to be of the form



            asm ( character-string-literal );


            In other words, the notation using the braces is arguably less conventional than the one using the parentheses.



            (The requirements in C++ are stronger.)






            share|improve this answer















            Annex J of the C standard is informative and states that if asm is supported (and it doesn't have to be), then it ought to be of the form



            asm ( character-string-literal );


            In other words, the notation using the braces is arguably less conventional than the one using the parentheses.



            (The requirements in C++ are stronger.)







            share|improve this answer














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            • C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:12






            • 1





              J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

              – Paul Hankin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:19






            • 1





              @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:21





















            • C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:12






            • 1





              J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

              – Paul Hankin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:19






            • 1





              @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

              – Lundin
              Nov 21 '18 at 12:21



















            C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

            – Lundin
            Nov 21 '18 at 12:12





            C does't support asm. Annex J is not normative and it only gives an example of the most common form of non-standard extensions - the same one as standardized by C++.

            – Lundin
            Nov 21 '18 at 12:12




            1




            1





            J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

            – Paul Hankin
            Nov 21 '18 at 12:19





            J.5.10 says "The most common implementation is via a statement of the form asm(...)" How do you read it to say that it must be of this form, or that any other form isn't standard?

            – Paul Hankin
            Nov 21 '18 at 12:19




            1




            1





            @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

            – Lundin
            Nov 21 '18 at 12:21







            @PaulHankin The key is C11 p554: "Annex J (informative)". Nothing in that annex contains language requirements, it is just extra information.

            – Lundin
            Nov 21 '18 at 12:21





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