Looking for a proof of : variance of sum is the sum of variances.












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For independent random variables X and Y, the variance of their sum or
difference is the sum of their variances:




I can see why above should be true : if $x_1<X<x_1$
and $y_1 <Y < y_2$, then clearly $x_1+y_1 <X+Y<x_2+y_2$. But proving this seems a bit hard. Here is my attempt :



$mathbb {var(X) = sum[x_i - mean(X)]^2p_i}$
$mathbb {var(Y) = sum[y_i - mean(Y)]^2p_i}$,

then I guess the variance of sum should be :
$mathbb {var(X+Y) = sum[(x_i+y_i) - mean(X+Y)]^2color{red}{p_{??}}}$



There is no way something like (a+b+m)^2 simplifies to (a+m)^2 + (b+m)^2. I'm kinda stuck here, any help ?










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    For independent random variables X and Y, the variance of their sum or
    difference is the sum of their variances:




    I can see why above should be true : if $x_1<X<x_1$
    and $y_1 <Y < y_2$, then clearly $x_1+y_1 <X+Y<x_2+y_2$. But proving this seems a bit hard. Here is my attempt :



    $mathbb {var(X) = sum[x_i - mean(X)]^2p_i}$
    $mathbb {var(Y) = sum[y_i - mean(Y)]^2p_i}$,

    then I guess the variance of sum should be :
    $mathbb {var(X+Y) = sum[(x_i+y_i) - mean(X+Y)]^2color{red}{p_{??}}}$



    There is no way something like (a+b+m)^2 simplifies to (a+m)^2 + (b+m)^2. I'm kinda stuck here, any help ?










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      For independent random variables X and Y, the variance of their sum or
      difference is the sum of their variances:




      I can see why above should be true : if $x_1<X<x_1$
      and $y_1 <Y < y_2$, then clearly $x_1+y_1 <X+Y<x_2+y_2$. But proving this seems a bit hard. Here is my attempt :



      $mathbb {var(X) = sum[x_i - mean(X)]^2p_i}$
      $mathbb {var(Y) = sum[y_i - mean(Y)]^2p_i}$,

      then I guess the variance of sum should be :
      $mathbb {var(X+Y) = sum[(x_i+y_i) - mean(X+Y)]^2color{red}{p_{??}}}$



      There is no way something like (a+b+m)^2 simplifies to (a+m)^2 + (b+m)^2. I'm kinda stuck here, any help ?










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      For independent random variables X and Y, the variance of their sum or
      difference is the sum of their variances:




      I can see why above should be true : if $x_1<X<x_1$
      and $y_1 <Y < y_2$, then clearly $x_1+y_1 <X+Y<x_2+y_2$. But proving this seems a bit hard. Here is my attempt :



      $mathbb {var(X) = sum[x_i - mean(X)]^2p_i}$
      $mathbb {var(Y) = sum[y_i - mean(Y)]^2p_i}$,

      then I guess the variance of sum should be :
      $mathbb {var(X+Y) = sum[(x_i+y_i) - mean(X+Y)]^2color{red}{p_{??}}}$



      There is no way something like (a+b+m)^2 simplifies to (a+m)^2 + (b+m)^2. I'm kinda stuck here, any help ?







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          Using the fact that $V(A) = E(A^2) - E(A)^2$ we have:
          begin{align*}
          V(X+Y) &= E(X+Y)^2 - [E(X+Y)]^2\
          &=[EX^2 + EY^2 + 2E(XY) ] - [(EX)^2 + (EY)^2 + 2(EX)(EY)]\
          &=EX^2 - (EX)^2 + EY^2 - (EY)^2 + 2E(XY) - 2(EX)(EY)\
          &= V(X) +V(Y) + 2 cov(X,Y)
          end{align*}

          When is cov$(X,Y)=0$?






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            By subtracting off the means, it is sufficient to consider the case when $X$ and $Y$ are centered (i.e., $mathbb EX = mathbb EY=0$). Then
            $$
            text{Var}(Xpm Y)=mathbb E(Xpm Y)^2=mathbb E X^2pm 2mathbb E(XY)+mathbb EY^2.
            $$

            Now since $X$ and $Y$ are independent and centered, $mathbb E(XY)=(mathbb EX)(mathbb EY)=0$ and therefore
            $$
            text{Var}(Xpm Y)=text{Var}( X)+text{Var} (Y).
            $$






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              Use the definition to expand and simplify



              $Var (X+Y)=\
              mathbb{E}((X+Y)^2)-(mu_X+mu_Y)^2$
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                $begingroup$

                Using the fact that $V(A) = E(A^2) - E(A)^2$ we have:
                begin{align*}
                V(X+Y) &= E(X+Y)^2 - [E(X+Y)]^2\
                &=[EX^2 + EY^2 + 2E(XY) ] - [(EX)^2 + (EY)^2 + 2(EX)(EY)]\
                &=EX^2 - (EX)^2 + EY^2 - (EY)^2 + 2E(XY) - 2(EX)(EY)\
                &= V(X) +V(Y) + 2 cov(X,Y)
                end{align*}

                When is cov$(X,Y)=0$?






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                  Using the fact that $V(A) = E(A^2) - E(A)^2$ we have:
                  begin{align*}
                  V(X+Y) &= E(X+Y)^2 - [E(X+Y)]^2\
                  &=[EX^2 + EY^2 + 2E(XY) ] - [(EX)^2 + (EY)^2 + 2(EX)(EY)]\
                  &=EX^2 - (EX)^2 + EY^2 - (EY)^2 + 2E(XY) - 2(EX)(EY)\
                  &= V(X) +V(Y) + 2 cov(X,Y)
                  end{align*}

                  When is cov$(X,Y)=0$?






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                    Using the fact that $V(A) = E(A^2) - E(A)^2$ we have:
                    begin{align*}
                    V(X+Y) &= E(X+Y)^2 - [E(X+Y)]^2\
                    &=[EX^2 + EY^2 + 2E(XY) ] - [(EX)^2 + (EY)^2 + 2(EX)(EY)]\
                    &=EX^2 - (EX)^2 + EY^2 - (EY)^2 + 2E(XY) - 2(EX)(EY)\
                    &= V(X) +V(Y) + 2 cov(X,Y)
                    end{align*}

                    When is cov$(X,Y)=0$?






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                    Using the fact that $V(A) = E(A^2) - E(A)^2$ we have:
                    begin{align*}
                    V(X+Y) &= E(X+Y)^2 - [E(X+Y)]^2\
                    &=[EX^2 + EY^2 + 2E(XY) ] - [(EX)^2 + (EY)^2 + 2(EX)(EY)]\
                    &=EX^2 - (EX)^2 + EY^2 - (EY)^2 + 2E(XY) - 2(EX)(EY)\
                    &= V(X) +V(Y) + 2 cov(X,Y)
                    end{align*}

                    When is cov$(X,Y)=0$?







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                    answered Dec 10 '18 at 11:17









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                        By subtracting off the means, it is sufficient to consider the case when $X$ and $Y$ are centered (i.e., $mathbb EX = mathbb EY=0$). Then
                        $$
                        text{Var}(Xpm Y)=mathbb E(Xpm Y)^2=mathbb E X^2pm 2mathbb E(XY)+mathbb EY^2.
                        $$

                        Now since $X$ and $Y$ are independent and centered, $mathbb E(XY)=(mathbb EX)(mathbb EY)=0$ and therefore
                        $$
                        text{Var}(Xpm Y)=text{Var}( X)+text{Var} (Y).
                        $$






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                          By subtracting off the means, it is sufficient to consider the case when $X$ and $Y$ are centered (i.e., $mathbb EX = mathbb EY=0$). Then
                          $$
                          text{Var}(Xpm Y)=mathbb E(Xpm Y)^2=mathbb E X^2pm 2mathbb E(XY)+mathbb EY^2.
                          $$

                          Now since $X$ and $Y$ are independent and centered, $mathbb E(XY)=(mathbb EX)(mathbb EY)=0$ and therefore
                          $$
                          text{Var}(Xpm Y)=text{Var}( X)+text{Var} (Y).
                          $$






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                            By subtracting off the means, it is sufficient to consider the case when $X$ and $Y$ are centered (i.e., $mathbb EX = mathbb EY=0$). Then
                            $$
                            text{Var}(Xpm Y)=mathbb E(Xpm Y)^2=mathbb E X^2pm 2mathbb E(XY)+mathbb EY^2.
                            $$

                            Now since $X$ and $Y$ are independent and centered, $mathbb E(XY)=(mathbb EX)(mathbb EY)=0$ and therefore
                            $$
                            text{Var}(Xpm Y)=text{Var}( X)+text{Var} (Y).
                            $$






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                            By subtracting off the means, it is sufficient to consider the case when $X$ and $Y$ are centered (i.e., $mathbb EX = mathbb EY=0$). Then
                            $$
                            text{Var}(Xpm Y)=mathbb E(Xpm Y)^2=mathbb E X^2pm 2mathbb E(XY)+mathbb EY^2.
                            $$

                            Now since $X$ and $Y$ are independent and centered, $mathbb E(XY)=(mathbb EX)(mathbb EY)=0$ and therefore
                            $$
                            text{Var}(Xpm Y)=text{Var}( X)+text{Var} (Y).
                            $$







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                                Use the definition to expand and simplify



                                $Var (X+Y)=\
                                mathbb{E}((X+Y)^2)-(mu_X+mu_Y)^2$
                                .






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                                  Use the definition to expand and simplify



                                  $Var (X+Y)=\
                                  mathbb{E}((X+Y)^2)-(mu_X+mu_Y)^2$
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                                    Use the definition to expand and simplify



                                    $Var (X+Y)=\
                                    mathbb{E}((X+Y)^2)-(mu_X+mu_Y)^2$
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                                    Use the definition to expand and simplify



                                    $Var (X+Y)=\
                                    mathbb{E}((X+Y)^2)-(mu_X+mu_Y)^2$
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