Range of $sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$ is
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If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and $z$
axis respectively. Then Range of
$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$ is
Try: If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and
$z$ axis respectively. Then $cos^2 alpha+cos^2 beta+cos^2 gamma = 1$
means $sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma = 2.$
Using Cauchy Schwarz Inequality
$$(sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma )cdot (sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma+sin^2 alpha)geq (sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha)^2$$
So $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alphaleq 2$$
Now i did not understand how i find minimum value of $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$$
could some help me, Thanks
inequality
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If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and $z$
axis respectively. Then Range of
$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$ is
Try: If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and
$z$ axis respectively. Then $cos^2 alpha+cos^2 beta+cos^2 gamma = 1$
means $sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma = 2.$
Using Cauchy Schwarz Inequality
$$(sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma )cdot (sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma+sin^2 alpha)geq (sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha)^2$$
So $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alphaleq 2$$
Now i did not understand how i find minimum value of $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$$
could some help me, Thanks
inequality
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Hint: What if the line is the $x$-axis? What are the angles in that case? What is the largest that any angle could possibly be? For the upper limit, can the value of $2$ be obtained?
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 9:24
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If line along $x$ axis . Then $alpha = 0^circ, beta = =gamma = 90^circ$. Michael i did not understand Why $2$ can not possible, please enlight me.
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– DXT
Dec 4 '18 at 10:29
1
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Yes it is. That's from the equality condition of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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– GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會
Dec 4 '18 at 10:47
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$2$ is attained, but you must prove it is attained (via an example).
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 12:28
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and $z$
axis respectively. Then Range of
$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$ is
Try: If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and
$z$ axis respectively. Then $cos^2 alpha+cos^2 beta+cos^2 gamma = 1$
means $sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma = 2.$
Using Cauchy Schwarz Inequality
$$(sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma )cdot (sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma+sin^2 alpha)geq (sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha)^2$$
So $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alphaleq 2$$
Now i did not understand how i find minimum value of $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$$
could some help me, Thanks
inequality
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If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and $z$
axis respectively. Then Range of
$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$ is
Try: If line makes an angle of $alpha,beta,gamma$ with positive $x,y$ and
$z$ axis respectively. Then $cos^2 alpha+cos^2 beta+cos^2 gamma = 1$
means $sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma = 2.$
Using Cauchy Schwarz Inequality
$$(sin^2 alpha+sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma )cdot (sin^2 beta+sin^2 gamma+sin^2 alpha)geq (sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha)^2$$
So $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alphaleq 2$$
Now i did not understand how i find minimum value of $$sin alphacdot sin beta+sin beta cdot sin gamma+sin gamma cdot sin alpha$$
could some help me, Thanks
inequality
inequality
asked Dec 4 '18 at 9:16
DXTDXT
5,7992731
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2
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Hint: What if the line is the $x$-axis? What are the angles in that case? What is the largest that any angle could possibly be? For the upper limit, can the value of $2$ be obtained?
$endgroup$
– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 9:24
$begingroup$
If line along $x$ axis . Then $alpha = 0^circ, beta = =gamma = 90^circ$. Michael i did not understand Why $2$ can not possible, please enlight me.
$endgroup$
– DXT
Dec 4 '18 at 10:29
1
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Yes it is. That's from the equality condition of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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– GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會
Dec 4 '18 at 10:47
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$2$ is attained, but you must prove it is attained (via an example).
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 12:28
add a comment |
2
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Hint: What if the line is the $x$-axis? What are the angles in that case? What is the largest that any angle could possibly be? For the upper limit, can the value of $2$ be obtained?
$endgroup$
– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 9:24
$begingroup$
If line along $x$ axis . Then $alpha = 0^circ, beta = =gamma = 90^circ$. Michael i did not understand Why $2$ can not possible, please enlight me.
$endgroup$
– DXT
Dec 4 '18 at 10:29
1
$begingroup$
Yes it is. That's from the equality condition of Cauchy-Schwarz.
$endgroup$
– GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會
Dec 4 '18 at 10:47
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$2$ is attained, but you must prove it is attained (via an example).
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 12:28
2
2
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Hint: What if the line is the $x$-axis? What are the angles in that case? What is the largest that any angle could possibly be? For the upper limit, can the value of $2$ be obtained?
$endgroup$
– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 9:24
$begingroup$
Hint: What if the line is the $x$-axis? What are the angles in that case? What is the largest that any angle could possibly be? For the upper limit, can the value of $2$ be obtained?
$endgroup$
– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 9:24
$begingroup$
If line along $x$ axis . Then $alpha = 0^circ, beta = =gamma = 90^circ$. Michael i did not understand Why $2$ can not possible, please enlight me.
$endgroup$
– DXT
Dec 4 '18 at 10:29
$begingroup$
If line along $x$ axis . Then $alpha = 0^circ, beta = =gamma = 90^circ$. Michael i did not understand Why $2$ can not possible, please enlight me.
$endgroup$
– DXT
Dec 4 '18 at 10:29
1
1
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Yes it is. That's from the equality condition of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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– GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會
Dec 4 '18 at 10:47
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Yes it is. That's from the equality condition of Cauchy-Schwarz.
$endgroup$
– GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會
Dec 4 '18 at 10:47
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$2$ is attained, but you must prove it is attained (via an example).
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 12:28
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$2$ is attained, but you must prove it is attained (via an example).
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 12:28
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Let $O(0,0,0)$, $A(sqrt{a},0,0),$ $B(0,sqrt{b},0)$ and $C(0,0,sqrt{c})$, where $a$, $b$ and $c$ are non-negatives such that $a^2+b^2+c^2neq0.$
Thus, we can assume that
$$sinalpha=sqrt{frac{b+c}{a+b+c}},$$
$$sinbeta=sqrt{frac{a+c}{a+b+c}}$$ and
$$singamma=sqrt{frac{a+b}{a+b+c}}.$$
Now, for $b=c=0$ we obtain:
$$sum_{cyc}sinalphasingamma=1.$$
We'll prove that it's a minimal value.
Indeed, we need to prove that
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{frac{(a+b)(a+c)}{(a+b+c)^2}}geq1$$ or
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geq a+b+c,$$ which is obvious because
$$sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geqsqrt{acdot a}=a.$$
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For the upper limit of the range, you've proved that $2$ is an upper bound on the range, but not that $2$ actually equals the upper bound. To show that $2$ is the upper limit of the range, you must exhibit an example (or otherwise prove) that $2$ can be attained. In this case, the upper bound can be attained with the line in the direction $langle 1,1,1rangle$. In this case, the angle with all axes is the same, so, by the equality condition for Cauchy-Schwarz, you get the value of $2$ (or, alternately, use the cross product to calculate that the sine of the angle is $frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{3}}$ and calculate the desired value directly).
For the lower bound, this occurs when the line is in the direction of one of the axes, e.g., $langle 1,0,0rangle$. In this case, one of the sines is zero and the other two are $1$. This leads to a value of $1$. This can be proved with a bit of multivariate calculus, if you wish, or a little figuring.
Here's the sketch of how to argue that $1$ is the minimum value (without calculus): Observe that
begin{align}
(sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma)^2&=(sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gamma)+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma)\
&=2+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma).
end{align}
Therefore, since everything is nonnegative, minimizing the desired quantity is the same as minimizing $sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma$. Since each sine is between $0$ and $1$, we know that $sin^2alphaleqsinalpha$, $sin^2betaleqsinbeta$, and $sin^2gammaleqsingamma$. Therefore,
$$
2=sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gammaleq sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma.
$$
The minimum is attained for the example above.
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Let $O(0,0,0)$, $A(sqrt{a},0,0),$ $B(0,sqrt{b},0)$ and $C(0,0,sqrt{c})$, where $a$, $b$ and $c$ are non-negatives such that $a^2+b^2+c^2neq0.$
Thus, we can assume that
$$sinalpha=sqrt{frac{b+c}{a+b+c}},$$
$$sinbeta=sqrt{frac{a+c}{a+b+c}}$$ and
$$singamma=sqrt{frac{a+b}{a+b+c}}.$$
Now, for $b=c=0$ we obtain:
$$sum_{cyc}sinalphasingamma=1.$$
We'll prove that it's a minimal value.
Indeed, we need to prove that
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{frac{(a+b)(a+c)}{(a+b+c)^2}}geq1$$ or
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geq a+b+c,$$ which is obvious because
$$sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geqsqrt{acdot a}=a.$$
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Let $O(0,0,0)$, $A(sqrt{a},0,0),$ $B(0,sqrt{b},0)$ and $C(0,0,sqrt{c})$, where $a$, $b$ and $c$ are non-negatives such that $a^2+b^2+c^2neq0.$
Thus, we can assume that
$$sinalpha=sqrt{frac{b+c}{a+b+c}},$$
$$sinbeta=sqrt{frac{a+c}{a+b+c}}$$ and
$$singamma=sqrt{frac{a+b}{a+b+c}}.$$
Now, for $b=c=0$ we obtain:
$$sum_{cyc}sinalphasingamma=1.$$
We'll prove that it's a minimal value.
Indeed, we need to prove that
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{frac{(a+b)(a+c)}{(a+b+c)^2}}geq1$$ or
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geq a+b+c,$$ which is obvious because
$$sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geqsqrt{acdot a}=a.$$
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Let $O(0,0,0)$, $A(sqrt{a},0,0),$ $B(0,sqrt{b},0)$ and $C(0,0,sqrt{c})$, where $a$, $b$ and $c$ are non-negatives such that $a^2+b^2+c^2neq0.$
Thus, we can assume that
$$sinalpha=sqrt{frac{b+c}{a+b+c}},$$
$$sinbeta=sqrt{frac{a+c}{a+b+c}}$$ and
$$singamma=sqrt{frac{a+b}{a+b+c}}.$$
Now, for $b=c=0$ we obtain:
$$sum_{cyc}sinalphasingamma=1.$$
We'll prove that it's a minimal value.
Indeed, we need to prove that
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{frac{(a+b)(a+c)}{(a+b+c)^2}}geq1$$ or
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geq a+b+c,$$ which is obvious because
$$sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geqsqrt{acdot a}=a.$$
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Let $O(0,0,0)$, $A(sqrt{a},0,0),$ $B(0,sqrt{b},0)$ and $C(0,0,sqrt{c})$, where $a$, $b$ and $c$ are non-negatives such that $a^2+b^2+c^2neq0.$
Thus, we can assume that
$$sinalpha=sqrt{frac{b+c}{a+b+c}},$$
$$sinbeta=sqrt{frac{a+c}{a+b+c}}$$ and
$$singamma=sqrt{frac{a+b}{a+b+c}}.$$
Now, for $b=c=0$ we obtain:
$$sum_{cyc}sinalphasingamma=1.$$
We'll prove that it's a minimal value.
Indeed, we need to prove that
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{frac{(a+b)(a+c)}{(a+b+c)^2}}geq1$$ or
$$sum_{cyc}sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geq a+b+c,$$ which is obvious because
$$sqrt{(a+b)(a+c)}geqsqrt{acdot a}=a.$$
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Michael RozenbergMichael Rozenberg
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For the upper limit of the range, you've proved that $2$ is an upper bound on the range, but not that $2$ actually equals the upper bound. To show that $2$ is the upper limit of the range, you must exhibit an example (or otherwise prove) that $2$ can be attained. In this case, the upper bound can be attained with the line in the direction $langle 1,1,1rangle$. In this case, the angle with all axes is the same, so, by the equality condition for Cauchy-Schwarz, you get the value of $2$ (or, alternately, use the cross product to calculate that the sine of the angle is $frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{3}}$ and calculate the desired value directly).
For the lower bound, this occurs when the line is in the direction of one of the axes, e.g., $langle 1,0,0rangle$. In this case, one of the sines is zero and the other two are $1$. This leads to a value of $1$. This can be proved with a bit of multivariate calculus, if you wish, or a little figuring.
Here's the sketch of how to argue that $1$ is the minimum value (without calculus): Observe that
begin{align}
(sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma)^2&=(sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gamma)+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma)\
&=2+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma).
end{align}
Therefore, since everything is nonnegative, minimizing the desired quantity is the same as minimizing $sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma$. Since each sine is between $0$ and $1$, we know that $sin^2alphaleqsinalpha$, $sin^2betaleqsinbeta$, and $sin^2gammaleqsingamma$. Therefore,
$$
2=sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gammaleq sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma.
$$
The minimum is attained for the example above.
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For the upper limit of the range, you've proved that $2$ is an upper bound on the range, but not that $2$ actually equals the upper bound. To show that $2$ is the upper limit of the range, you must exhibit an example (or otherwise prove) that $2$ can be attained. In this case, the upper bound can be attained with the line in the direction $langle 1,1,1rangle$. In this case, the angle with all axes is the same, so, by the equality condition for Cauchy-Schwarz, you get the value of $2$ (or, alternately, use the cross product to calculate that the sine of the angle is $frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{3}}$ and calculate the desired value directly).
For the lower bound, this occurs when the line is in the direction of one of the axes, e.g., $langle 1,0,0rangle$. In this case, one of the sines is zero and the other two are $1$. This leads to a value of $1$. This can be proved with a bit of multivariate calculus, if you wish, or a little figuring.
Here's the sketch of how to argue that $1$ is the minimum value (without calculus): Observe that
begin{align}
(sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma)^2&=(sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gamma)+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma)\
&=2+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma).
end{align}
Therefore, since everything is nonnegative, minimizing the desired quantity is the same as minimizing $sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma$. Since each sine is between $0$ and $1$, we know that $sin^2alphaleqsinalpha$, $sin^2betaleqsinbeta$, and $sin^2gammaleqsingamma$. Therefore,
$$
2=sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gammaleq sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma.
$$
The minimum is attained for the example above.
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For the upper limit of the range, you've proved that $2$ is an upper bound on the range, but not that $2$ actually equals the upper bound. To show that $2$ is the upper limit of the range, you must exhibit an example (or otherwise prove) that $2$ can be attained. In this case, the upper bound can be attained with the line in the direction $langle 1,1,1rangle$. In this case, the angle with all axes is the same, so, by the equality condition for Cauchy-Schwarz, you get the value of $2$ (or, alternately, use the cross product to calculate that the sine of the angle is $frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{3}}$ and calculate the desired value directly).
For the lower bound, this occurs when the line is in the direction of one of the axes, e.g., $langle 1,0,0rangle$. In this case, one of the sines is zero and the other two are $1$. This leads to a value of $1$. This can be proved with a bit of multivariate calculus, if you wish, or a little figuring.
Here's the sketch of how to argue that $1$ is the minimum value (without calculus): Observe that
begin{align}
(sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma)^2&=(sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gamma)+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma)\
&=2+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma).
end{align}
Therefore, since everything is nonnegative, minimizing the desired quantity is the same as minimizing $sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma$. Since each sine is between $0$ and $1$, we know that $sin^2alphaleqsinalpha$, $sin^2betaleqsinbeta$, and $sin^2gammaleqsingamma$. Therefore,
$$
2=sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gammaleq sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma.
$$
The minimum is attained for the example above.
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For the upper limit of the range, you've proved that $2$ is an upper bound on the range, but not that $2$ actually equals the upper bound. To show that $2$ is the upper limit of the range, you must exhibit an example (or otherwise prove) that $2$ can be attained. In this case, the upper bound can be attained with the line in the direction $langle 1,1,1rangle$. In this case, the angle with all axes is the same, so, by the equality condition for Cauchy-Schwarz, you get the value of $2$ (or, alternately, use the cross product to calculate that the sine of the angle is $frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{3}}$ and calculate the desired value directly).
For the lower bound, this occurs when the line is in the direction of one of the axes, e.g., $langle 1,0,0rangle$. In this case, one of the sines is zero and the other two are $1$. This leads to a value of $1$. This can be proved with a bit of multivariate calculus, if you wish, or a little figuring.
Here's the sketch of how to argue that $1$ is the minimum value (without calculus): Observe that
begin{align}
(sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma)^2&=(sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gamma)+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma)\
&=2+2(sinalphasinbeta+sinalphasingamma+sinbetasingamma).
end{align}
Therefore, since everything is nonnegative, minimizing the desired quantity is the same as minimizing $sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma$. Since each sine is between $0$ and $1$, we know that $sin^2alphaleqsinalpha$, $sin^2betaleqsinbeta$, and $sin^2gammaleqsingamma$. Therefore,
$$
2=sin^2alpha+sin^2beta+sin^2gammaleq sinalpha+sinbeta+singamma.
$$
The minimum is attained for the example above.
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Michael BurrMichael Burr
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Hint: What if the line is the $x$-axis? What are the angles in that case? What is the largest that any angle could possibly be? For the upper limit, can the value of $2$ be obtained?
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If line along $x$ axis . Then $alpha = 0^circ, beta = =gamma = 90^circ$. Michael i did not understand Why $2$ can not possible, please enlight me.
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– DXT
Dec 4 '18 at 10:29
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Yes it is. That's from the equality condition of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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– GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會
Dec 4 '18 at 10:47
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$2$ is attained, but you must prove it is attained (via an example).
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– Michael Burr
Dec 4 '18 at 12:28