Upper bound for the number of solutions of a Diophantine equation
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Consider the Diophantine equation
$$k^2 + k - sigma (ell^2 + ell) = m,$$
where $N leq k leq 2 N$, $L leq ell leq 2 L$, $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $sigma in mathbb{R}$.
For which values of the parameter $sigma$ is it possible to say that
the number of solutions of this equation is bounded by $O(min(N, L)^{epsilon})$ ?
To facilitate progress, I'm going to put this auxiliar lemma.
$underline {Lemma}$. For every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists $C_{varepsilon} > 0$
such that, for every $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $K$ positive integer,
$$sharp {(x, y) in mathbb{N}^{2} mid K leq x leq 2 K , x^{2} pm y^{2} = m } leq C_{varepsilon} K^{varepsilon}. $$
I would be very grateful for any suggestion!
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Consider the Diophantine equation
$$k^2 + k - sigma (ell^2 + ell) = m,$$
where $N leq k leq 2 N$, $L leq ell leq 2 L$, $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $sigma in mathbb{R}$.
For which values of the parameter $sigma$ is it possible to say that
the number of solutions of this equation is bounded by $O(min(N, L)^{epsilon})$ ?
To facilitate progress, I'm going to put this auxiliar lemma.
$underline {Lemma}$. For every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists $C_{varepsilon} > 0$
such that, for every $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $K$ positive integer,
$$sharp {(x, y) in mathbb{N}^{2} mid K leq x leq 2 K , x^{2} pm y^{2} = m } leq C_{varepsilon} K^{varepsilon}. $$
I would be very grateful for any suggestion!
nt.number-theory diophantine-equations
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The lemma is false. Suppose that $m=0$. Then every pair $(x,x)$ with $Kleq xleq 2K$ belongs to the set on the LHS. Hence, this set contains $K+1$ elements and so its cardinality cannot be bounded from above by $C_{epsilon} K^{epsilon}$ for $epsilon<1$.
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– Philipp Lampe
Mar 14 at 14:22
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The lemma is in fact true. Note that you can take a large constant C > 0 in this case.
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 14:31
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@MarceloNogueira: for what value of $C_{1/2}$ is $C_{1/2}K^{1/2}>K+1$ for all $K$?
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– Alex B.
Mar 14 at 17:38
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Consider the Diophantine equation
$$k^2 + k - sigma (ell^2 + ell) = m,$$
where $N leq k leq 2 N$, $L leq ell leq 2 L$, $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $sigma in mathbb{R}$.
For which values of the parameter $sigma$ is it possible to say that
the number of solutions of this equation is bounded by $O(min(N, L)^{epsilon})$ ?
To facilitate progress, I'm going to put this auxiliar lemma.
$underline {Lemma}$. For every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists $C_{varepsilon} > 0$
such that, for every $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $K$ positive integer,
$$sharp {(x, y) in mathbb{N}^{2} mid K leq x leq 2 K , x^{2} pm y^{2} = m } leq C_{varepsilon} K^{varepsilon}. $$
I would be very grateful for any suggestion!
nt.number-theory diophantine-equations
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Consider the Diophantine equation
$$k^2 + k - sigma (ell^2 + ell) = m,$$
where $N leq k leq 2 N$, $L leq ell leq 2 L$, $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $sigma in mathbb{R}$.
For which values of the parameter $sigma$ is it possible to say that
the number of solutions of this equation is bounded by $O(min(N, L)^{epsilon})$ ?
To facilitate progress, I'm going to put this auxiliar lemma.
$underline {Lemma}$. For every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists $C_{varepsilon} > 0$
such that, for every $m in mathbb{Z}$ and $K$ positive integer,
$$sharp {(x, y) in mathbb{N}^{2} mid K leq x leq 2 K , x^{2} pm y^{2} = m } leq C_{varepsilon} K^{varepsilon}. $$
I would be very grateful for any suggestion!
nt.number-theory diophantine-equations
nt.number-theory diophantine-equations
edited Mar 14 at 21:04
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The lemma is false. Suppose that $m=0$. Then every pair $(x,x)$ with $Kleq xleq 2K$ belongs to the set on the LHS. Hence, this set contains $K+1$ elements and so its cardinality cannot be bounded from above by $C_{epsilon} K^{epsilon}$ for $epsilon<1$.
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– Philipp Lampe
Mar 14 at 14:22
1
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The lemma is in fact true. Note that you can take a large constant C > 0 in this case.
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 14:31
4
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@MarceloNogueira: for what value of $C_{1/2}$ is $C_{1/2}K^{1/2}>K+1$ for all $K$?
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– Alex B.
Mar 14 at 17:38
add a comment |
11
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The lemma is false. Suppose that $m=0$. Then every pair $(x,x)$ with $Kleq xleq 2K$ belongs to the set on the LHS. Hence, this set contains $K+1$ elements and so its cardinality cannot be bounded from above by $C_{epsilon} K^{epsilon}$ for $epsilon<1$.
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– Philipp Lampe
Mar 14 at 14:22
1
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The lemma is in fact true. Note that you can take a large constant C > 0 in this case.
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 14:31
4
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@MarceloNogueira: for what value of $C_{1/2}$ is $C_{1/2}K^{1/2}>K+1$ for all $K$?
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– Alex B.
Mar 14 at 17:38
11
11
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The lemma is false. Suppose that $m=0$. Then every pair $(x,x)$ with $Kleq xleq 2K$ belongs to the set on the LHS. Hence, this set contains $K+1$ elements and so its cardinality cannot be bounded from above by $C_{epsilon} K^{epsilon}$ for $epsilon<1$.
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– Philipp Lampe
Mar 14 at 14:22
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The lemma is false. Suppose that $m=0$. Then every pair $(x,x)$ with $Kleq xleq 2K$ belongs to the set on the LHS. Hence, this set contains $K+1$ elements and so its cardinality cannot be bounded from above by $C_{epsilon} K^{epsilon}$ for $epsilon<1$.
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– Philipp Lampe
Mar 14 at 14:22
1
1
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The lemma is in fact true. Note that you can take a large constant C > 0 in this case.
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 14:31
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The lemma is in fact true. Note that you can take a large constant C > 0 in this case.
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 14:31
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4
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@MarceloNogueira: for what value of $C_{1/2}$ is $C_{1/2}K^{1/2}>K+1$ for all $K$?
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– Alex B.
Mar 14 at 17:38
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@MarceloNogueira: for what value of $C_{1/2}$ is $C_{1/2}K^{1/2}>K+1$ for all $K$?
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– Alex B.
Mar 14 at 17:38
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First of all, you can assume $sigmain mathbb{Q}$. Otherwise, the only solutions there can be are those with $l^2+l=0$ and $k^2+k=m$, and there's certainly only a bounded number of those.
Multiplying by the denominator, we see that we are being asked for a bound on the number of solutions to
$$a (k^2 + k) + b (l^2 + l) = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. We multiply both sides by $4$ and add $a+b$ to complete the squares. Thus we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$a k^2 + b l^2 = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. Multiplying by $a$ and then replacing $a k$ by $k$, we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$k^2 + d l^2 = n$$
for given $d$ and $n$,
with $k$ and $l$ in dyadic intervals $K<kleq 2 K$, $L<lleq 2 L$.
(I take the implied constant in the bound you wish is allowed to depend on $sigma$. The bound I will give will depend on $d$, though not on $n$.)
For $d>0$, the number of solutions is obviously bounded by the number of ideals of norm $n$ in the ring of integers of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$. That number is bounded by the number of divisors of $n$, which is $O_epsilon(n^epsilon) = O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$. To obtain the bound $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$, note that, if $L^2 < 2K/3d$, there can be at most one solutions to your equation, as two consecutive values of $k^2$ differ by at least $2 K + 1$, and $d (2 L)^2 - d L^2 = 3 d L^2$.
For $d<0$, you also have to take quadratic units in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$, but, as there is only a logarithmic number of them in a box of given size (the group of units being isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}$ times bounded torsion), you still get a bound of $O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$, and hence of $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$.
The only exception is given by $n=0$ and $d$ of the form $-r^2$, $r$ an integer. Then the number of solutions to $k^2+d l^2 = n$ is evidently infinite, and the number of solutions in a box is linear on the size of the box. It is easy to see that this is the case of $c=-(a+ b)/4$, $a b=-r^2$ in the equation $a (k^2+k) + b (l^2+ l) = c$. That case corresponds to $sigmain mathbb{Q}^2$, $m = (sigma-1)/4$ (and thus $sigmain mathbb{Z}^2$) in the original problem.
tl;dr a simple exercise in quadratic number fields
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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First of all, you can assume $sigmain mathbb{Q}$. Otherwise, the only solutions there can be are those with $l^2+l=0$ and $k^2+k=m$, and there's certainly only a bounded number of those.
Multiplying by the denominator, we see that we are being asked for a bound on the number of solutions to
$$a (k^2 + k) + b (l^2 + l) = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. We multiply both sides by $4$ and add $a+b$ to complete the squares. Thus we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$a k^2 + b l^2 = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. Multiplying by $a$ and then replacing $a k$ by $k$, we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$k^2 + d l^2 = n$$
for given $d$ and $n$,
with $k$ and $l$ in dyadic intervals $K<kleq 2 K$, $L<lleq 2 L$.
(I take the implied constant in the bound you wish is allowed to depend on $sigma$. The bound I will give will depend on $d$, though not on $n$.)
For $d>0$, the number of solutions is obviously bounded by the number of ideals of norm $n$ in the ring of integers of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$. That number is bounded by the number of divisors of $n$, which is $O_epsilon(n^epsilon) = O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$. To obtain the bound $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$, note that, if $L^2 < 2K/3d$, there can be at most one solutions to your equation, as two consecutive values of $k^2$ differ by at least $2 K + 1$, and $d (2 L)^2 - d L^2 = 3 d L^2$.
For $d<0$, you also have to take quadratic units in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$, but, as there is only a logarithmic number of them in a box of given size (the group of units being isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}$ times bounded torsion), you still get a bound of $O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$, and hence of $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$.
The only exception is given by $n=0$ and $d$ of the form $-r^2$, $r$ an integer. Then the number of solutions to $k^2+d l^2 = n$ is evidently infinite, and the number of solutions in a box is linear on the size of the box. It is easy to see that this is the case of $c=-(a+ b)/4$, $a b=-r^2$ in the equation $a (k^2+k) + b (l^2+ l) = c$. That case corresponds to $sigmain mathbb{Q}^2$, $m = (sigma-1)/4$ (and thus $sigmain mathbb{Z}^2$) in the original problem.
tl;dr a simple exercise in quadratic number fields
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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– Marcelo Nogueira
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First of all, you can assume $sigmain mathbb{Q}$. Otherwise, the only solutions there can be are those with $l^2+l=0$ and $k^2+k=m$, and there's certainly only a bounded number of those.
Multiplying by the denominator, we see that we are being asked for a bound on the number of solutions to
$$a (k^2 + k) + b (l^2 + l) = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. We multiply both sides by $4$ and add $a+b$ to complete the squares. Thus we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$a k^2 + b l^2 = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. Multiplying by $a$ and then replacing $a k$ by $k$, we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$k^2 + d l^2 = n$$
for given $d$ and $n$,
with $k$ and $l$ in dyadic intervals $K<kleq 2 K$, $L<lleq 2 L$.
(I take the implied constant in the bound you wish is allowed to depend on $sigma$. The bound I will give will depend on $d$, though not on $n$.)
For $d>0$, the number of solutions is obviously bounded by the number of ideals of norm $n$ in the ring of integers of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$. That number is bounded by the number of divisors of $n$, which is $O_epsilon(n^epsilon) = O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$. To obtain the bound $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$, note that, if $L^2 < 2K/3d$, there can be at most one solutions to your equation, as two consecutive values of $k^2$ differ by at least $2 K + 1$, and $d (2 L)^2 - d L^2 = 3 d L^2$.
For $d<0$, you also have to take quadratic units in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$, but, as there is only a logarithmic number of them in a box of given size (the group of units being isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}$ times bounded torsion), you still get a bound of $O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$, and hence of $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$.
The only exception is given by $n=0$ and $d$ of the form $-r^2$, $r$ an integer. Then the number of solutions to $k^2+d l^2 = n$ is evidently infinite, and the number of solutions in a box is linear on the size of the box. It is easy to see that this is the case of $c=-(a+ b)/4$, $a b=-r^2$ in the equation $a (k^2+k) + b (l^2+ l) = c$. That case corresponds to $sigmain mathbb{Q}^2$, $m = (sigma-1)/4$ (and thus $sigmain mathbb{Z}^2$) in the original problem.
tl;dr a simple exercise in quadratic number fields
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 18:27
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First of all, you can assume $sigmain mathbb{Q}$. Otherwise, the only solutions there can be are those with $l^2+l=0$ and $k^2+k=m$, and there's certainly only a bounded number of those.
Multiplying by the denominator, we see that we are being asked for a bound on the number of solutions to
$$a (k^2 + k) + b (l^2 + l) = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. We multiply both sides by $4$ and add $a+b$ to complete the squares. Thus we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$a k^2 + b l^2 = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. Multiplying by $a$ and then replacing $a k$ by $k$, we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$k^2 + d l^2 = n$$
for given $d$ and $n$,
with $k$ and $l$ in dyadic intervals $K<kleq 2 K$, $L<lleq 2 L$.
(I take the implied constant in the bound you wish is allowed to depend on $sigma$. The bound I will give will depend on $d$, though not on $n$.)
For $d>0$, the number of solutions is obviously bounded by the number of ideals of norm $n$ in the ring of integers of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$. That number is bounded by the number of divisors of $n$, which is $O_epsilon(n^epsilon) = O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$. To obtain the bound $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$, note that, if $L^2 < 2K/3d$, there can be at most one solutions to your equation, as two consecutive values of $k^2$ differ by at least $2 K + 1$, and $d (2 L)^2 - d L^2 = 3 d L^2$.
For $d<0$, you also have to take quadratic units in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$, but, as there is only a logarithmic number of them in a box of given size (the group of units being isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}$ times bounded torsion), you still get a bound of $O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$, and hence of $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$.
The only exception is given by $n=0$ and $d$ of the form $-r^2$, $r$ an integer. Then the number of solutions to $k^2+d l^2 = n$ is evidently infinite, and the number of solutions in a box is linear on the size of the box. It is easy to see that this is the case of $c=-(a+ b)/4$, $a b=-r^2$ in the equation $a (k^2+k) + b (l^2+ l) = c$. That case corresponds to $sigmain mathbb{Q}^2$, $m = (sigma-1)/4$ (and thus $sigmain mathbb{Z}^2$) in the original problem.
tl;dr a simple exercise in quadratic number fields
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First of all, you can assume $sigmain mathbb{Q}$. Otherwise, the only solutions there can be are those with $l^2+l=0$ and $k^2+k=m$, and there's certainly only a bounded number of those.
Multiplying by the denominator, we see that we are being asked for a bound on the number of solutions to
$$a (k^2 + k) + b (l^2 + l) = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. We multiply both sides by $4$ and add $a+b$ to complete the squares. Thus we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$a k^2 + b l^2 = c$$
with $k$, $l$ in dyadic intervals. Multiplying by $a$ and then replacing $a k$ by $k$, we reduce our problem to that of bounding the number of solutions to
$$k^2 + d l^2 = n$$
for given $d$ and $n$,
with $k$ and $l$ in dyadic intervals $K<kleq 2 K$, $L<lleq 2 L$.
(I take the implied constant in the bound you wish is allowed to depend on $sigma$. The bound I will give will depend on $d$, though not on $n$.)
For $d>0$, the number of solutions is obviously bounded by the number of ideals of norm $n$ in the ring of integers of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$. That number is bounded by the number of divisors of $n$, which is $O_epsilon(n^epsilon) = O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$. To obtain the bound $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$, note that, if $L^2 < 2K/3d$, there can be at most one solutions to your equation, as two consecutive values of $k^2$ differ by at least $2 K + 1$, and $d (2 L)^2 - d L^2 = 3 d L^2$.
For $d<0$, you also have to take quadratic units in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{d})$, but, as there is only a logarithmic number of them in a box of given size (the group of units being isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}$ times bounded torsion), you still get a bound of $O_epsilon(max(K,L)^epsilon)$, and hence of $O_epsilon(min(K,L)^epsilon)$.
The only exception is given by $n=0$ and $d$ of the form $-r^2$, $r$ an integer. Then the number of solutions to $k^2+d l^2 = n$ is evidently infinite, and the number of solutions in a box is linear on the size of the box. It is easy to see that this is the case of $c=-(a+ b)/4$, $a b=-r^2$ in the equation $a (k^2+k) + b (l^2+ l) = c$. That case corresponds to $sigmain mathbb{Q}^2$, $m = (sigma-1)/4$ (and thus $sigmain mathbb{Z}^2$) in the original problem.
tl;dr a simple exercise in quadratic number fields
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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Nell, thanks so much for your explanation !
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The lemma is false. Suppose that $m=0$. Then every pair $(x,x)$ with $Kleq xleq 2K$ belongs to the set on the LHS. Hence, this set contains $K+1$ elements and so its cardinality cannot be bounded from above by $C_{epsilon} K^{epsilon}$ for $epsilon<1$.
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– Philipp Lampe
Mar 14 at 14:22
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The lemma is in fact true. Note that you can take a large constant C > 0 in this case.
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– Marcelo Nogueira
Mar 14 at 14:31
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@MarceloNogueira: for what value of $C_{1/2}$ is $C_{1/2}K^{1/2}>K+1$ for all $K$?
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– Alex B.
Mar 14 at 17:38