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After the definition of orientation for a vector bundle$^{(1)}$ in "Characteristic Classes" by Milnor/Stasheff (page 96), the author make this comment:




The local compatibility condition implies that for every point in the base space there exists a neighborhood $N$ and a cohomology class $$u in H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$$ so that for every fiber $F$ over $N$ the restriction $$u | (F, F_0) in H^n(F, F_0; Z)$$ is equal to $u_F$.




Where $u_F$ is the generator associated to the orientation of the fiber F.



I understand the intuition behind this comment, but I don't see exactly where this $u$ comes from. My idea is that an orientation in $mathbb{R}^n$ gives a class in $H^n(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0; Z)$ and this should give a class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0; Z) cong H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$ somehow.





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An orientation for $xi$ is a function which assigns an orientation to each fiber $F$ of $xi$, subjected to the following local compatibility condition. For every point $b_0$ in the base space there should exist a local coordinate system $(N, h)$, with $b_0 in N$ and $h: N times mathbb{R}^n to pi^{-1}(N)$, so that for each fiber $F = pi^{-1}(b)$ over N the homomorphism $x mapsto h(b, x)$ from $mathbb{R}^n$ to F is orientation preserving.











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    After the definition of orientation for a vector bundle$^{(1)}$ in "Characteristic Classes" by Milnor/Stasheff (page 96), the author make this comment:




    The local compatibility condition implies that for every point in the base space there exists a neighborhood $N$ and a cohomology class $$u in H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$$ so that for every fiber $F$ over $N$ the restriction $$u | (F, F_0) in H^n(F, F_0; Z)$$ is equal to $u_F$.




    Where $u_F$ is the generator associated to the orientation of the fiber F.



    I understand the intuition behind this comment, but I don't see exactly where this $u$ comes from. My idea is that an orientation in $mathbb{R}^n$ gives a class in $H^n(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0; Z)$ and this should give a class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0; Z) cong H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$ somehow.





    $^{(1)}$ The definition in the book is:




    An orientation for $xi$ is a function which assigns an orientation to each fiber $F$ of $xi$, subjected to the following local compatibility condition. For every point $b_0$ in the base space there should exist a local coordinate system $(N, h)$, with $b_0 in N$ and $h: N times mathbb{R}^n to pi^{-1}(N)$, so that for each fiber $F = pi^{-1}(b)$ over N the homomorphism $x mapsto h(b, x)$ from $mathbb{R}^n$ to F is orientation preserving.











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      After the definition of orientation for a vector bundle$^{(1)}$ in "Characteristic Classes" by Milnor/Stasheff (page 96), the author make this comment:




      The local compatibility condition implies that for every point in the base space there exists a neighborhood $N$ and a cohomology class $$u in H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$$ so that for every fiber $F$ over $N$ the restriction $$u | (F, F_0) in H^n(F, F_0; Z)$$ is equal to $u_F$.




      Where $u_F$ is the generator associated to the orientation of the fiber F.



      I understand the intuition behind this comment, but I don't see exactly where this $u$ comes from. My idea is that an orientation in $mathbb{R}^n$ gives a class in $H^n(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0; Z)$ and this should give a class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0; Z) cong H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$ somehow.





      $^{(1)}$ The definition in the book is:




      An orientation for $xi$ is a function which assigns an orientation to each fiber $F$ of $xi$, subjected to the following local compatibility condition. For every point $b_0$ in the base space there should exist a local coordinate system $(N, h)$, with $b_0 in N$ and $h: N times mathbb{R}^n to pi^{-1}(N)$, so that for each fiber $F = pi^{-1}(b)$ over N the homomorphism $x mapsto h(b, x)$ from $mathbb{R}^n$ to F is orientation preserving.











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      After the definition of orientation for a vector bundle$^{(1)}$ in "Characteristic Classes" by Milnor/Stasheff (page 96), the author make this comment:




      The local compatibility condition implies that for every point in the base space there exists a neighborhood $N$ and a cohomology class $$u in H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$$ so that for every fiber $F$ over $N$ the restriction $$u | (F, F_0) in H^n(F, F_0; Z)$$ is equal to $u_F$.




      Where $u_F$ is the generator associated to the orientation of the fiber F.



      I understand the intuition behind this comment, but I don't see exactly where this $u$ comes from. My idea is that an orientation in $mathbb{R}^n$ gives a class in $H^n(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0; Z)$ and this should give a class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0; Z) cong H^n (pi^{-1}(N), pi^{-1}(N)_0;Z)$ somehow.





      $^{(1)}$ The definition in the book is:




      An orientation for $xi$ is a function which assigns an orientation to each fiber $F$ of $xi$, subjected to the following local compatibility condition. For every point $b_0$ in the base space there should exist a local coordinate system $(N, h)$, with $b_0 in N$ and $h: N times mathbb{R}^n to pi^{-1}(N)$, so that for each fiber $F = pi^{-1}(b)$ over N the homomorphism $x mapsto h(b, x)$ from $mathbb{R}^n$ to F is orientation preserving.








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          As the cohomology of $(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is torsion-free, and in particular,
          $$ H^q( mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0) = begin{cases} mathbb{Z} & q = n \ 0 & q neq n end{cases},$$



          by the Kunneth formula
          $$ H^m(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0) cong oplus_{p+q=m} H^p(N) otimes H^q(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0) = H^{m-n}(N).$$
          If $N$ is connected, the class you seek in $H^n(N times mathbb{R^n},N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly the image of the generator in $H^0(N)$. Geometrically, the Kunneth isomorphism tells us this class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly a generator of $H^n(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0)$ over every point in $N$.






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            As the cohomology of $(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is torsion-free, and in particular,
            $$ H^q( mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0) = begin{cases} mathbb{Z} & q = n \ 0 & q neq n end{cases},$$



            by the Kunneth formula
            $$ H^m(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0) cong oplus_{p+q=m} H^p(N) otimes H^q(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0) = H^{m-n}(N).$$
            If $N$ is connected, the class you seek in $H^n(N times mathbb{R^n},N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly the image of the generator in $H^0(N)$. Geometrically, the Kunneth isomorphism tells us this class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly a generator of $H^n(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0)$ over every point in $N$.






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              As the cohomology of $(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is torsion-free, and in particular,
              $$ H^q( mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0) = begin{cases} mathbb{Z} & q = n \ 0 & q neq n end{cases},$$



              by the Kunneth formula
              $$ H^m(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0) cong oplus_{p+q=m} H^p(N) otimes H^q(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0) = H^{m-n}(N).$$
              If $N$ is connected, the class you seek in $H^n(N times mathbb{R^n},N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly the image of the generator in $H^0(N)$. Geometrically, the Kunneth isomorphism tells us this class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly a generator of $H^n(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0)$ over every point in $N$.






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                As the cohomology of $(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is torsion-free, and in particular,
                $$ H^q( mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0) = begin{cases} mathbb{Z} & q = n \ 0 & q neq n end{cases},$$



                by the Kunneth formula
                $$ H^m(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0) cong oplus_{p+q=m} H^p(N) otimes H^q(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0) = H^{m-n}(N).$$
                If $N$ is connected, the class you seek in $H^n(N times mathbb{R^n},N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly the image of the generator in $H^0(N)$. Geometrically, the Kunneth isomorphism tells us this class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly a generator of $H^n(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0)$ over every point in $N$.






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                As the cohomology of $(mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is torsion-free, and in particular,
                $$ H^q( mathbb{R}^n, mathbb{R}^n_0) = begin{cases} mathbb{Z} & q = n \ 0 & q neq n end{cases},$$



                by the Kunneth formula
                $$ H^m(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0) cong oplus_{p+q=m} H^p(N) otimes H^q(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0) = H^{m-n}(N).$$
                If $N$ is connected, the class you seek in $H^n(N times mathbb{R^n},N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly the image of the generator in $H^0(N)$. Geometrically, the Kunneth isomorphism tells us this class in $H^n(N times mathbb{R}^n, N times mathbb{R}^n_0)$ is exactly a generator of $H^n(mathbb{R}^n,mathbb{R}^n_0)$ over every point in $N$.







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