Evaluate $lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$











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$n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
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    $n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
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      $lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$



      $n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
      hmm, Is this a good approach?










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      $lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$



      $n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
      hmm, Is this a good approach?







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          $$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$



          observe that



          $$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$



          and



          $$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$



          You will find $+infty$.






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          • How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
            – matematiccc
            Nov 18 at 19:23










          • @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
            – hamam_Abdallah
            Nov 18 at 19:26










          • Of course 0. Thanks!
            – matematiccc
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          Hint:



          Rationalize the numerator



          The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$



          Alternatively,



          Set $1/n$ to find
          $$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$






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            Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as



            $$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$



            for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:



            $$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
            where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.



            That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).






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              Use binomial expansion



              $$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$



              and therefore



              $$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$






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              • This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
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              • @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
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              $$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$



              observe that



              $$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$



              and



              $$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$



              You will find $+infty$.






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              • How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:23










              • @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
                – hamam_Abdallah
                Nov 18 at 19:26










              • Of course 0. Thanks!
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:27















              up vote
              2
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              hint



              $$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$



              observe that



              $$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$



              and



              $$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$



              You will find $+infty$.






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              • How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:23










              • @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
                – hamam_Abdallah
                Nov 18 at 19:26










              • Of course 0. Thanks!
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:27













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              hint



              $$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$



              observe that



              $$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$



              and



              $$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$



              You will find $+infty$.






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              hint



              $$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$



              observe that



              $$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$



              and



              $$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$



              You will find $+infty$.







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              • How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:23










              • @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
                – hamam_Abdallah
                Nov 18 at 19:26










              • Of course 0. Thanks!
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:27


















              • How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:23










              • @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
                – hamam_Abdallah
                Nov 18 at 19:26










              • Of course 0. Thanks!
                – matematiccc
                Nov 18 at 19:27
















              How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
              – matematiccc
              Nov 18 at 19:23




              How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
              – matematiccc
              Nov 18 at 19:23












              @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
              – hamam_Abdallah
              Nov 18 at 19:26




              @matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
              – hamam_Abdallah
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              Of course 0. Thanks!
              – matematiccc
              Nov 18 at 19:27




              Of course 0. Thanks!
              – matematiccc
              Nov 18 at 19:27










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              Hint:



              Rationalize the numerator



              The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$



              Alternatively,



              Set $1/n$ to find
              $$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$






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                Hint:



                Rationalize the numerator



                The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$



                Alternatively,



                Set $1/n$ to find
                $$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$






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                  Hint:



                  Rationalize the numerator



                  The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$



                  Alternatively,



                  Set $1/n$ to find
                  $$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$






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                  Hint:



                  Rationalize the numerator



                  The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$



                  Alternatively,



                  Set $1/n$ to find
                  $$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$







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                      Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as



                      $$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$



                      for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:



                      $$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
                      where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.



                      That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).






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                        Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as



                        $$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$



                        for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:



                        $$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
                        where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.



                        That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).






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                          Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as



                          $$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$



                          for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:



                          $$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
                          where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.



                          That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).






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                          Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as



                          $$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$



                          for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:



                          $$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
                          where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.



                          That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).







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                              Use binomial expansion



                              $$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$



                              and therefore



                              $$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$






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                              • This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:55










                              • @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
                                – gimusi
                                Nov 18 at 18:57










                              • Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:58















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                              Use binomial expansion



                              $$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$



                              and therefore



                              $$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$






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                              • This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:55










                              • @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
                                – gimusi
                                Nov 18 at 18:57










                              • Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:58













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                              Use binomial expansion



                              $$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$



                              and therefore



                              $$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$






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                              Use binomial expansion



                              $$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$



                              and therefore



                              $$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$







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                              • This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:55










                              • @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
                                – gimusi
                                Nov 18 at 18:57










                              • Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:58


















                              • This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:55










                              • @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
                                – gimusi
                                Nov 18 at 18:57










                              • Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
                                – T. Bongers
                                Nov 18 at 18:58
















                              This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
                              – T. Bongers
                              Nov 18 at 18:55




                              This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
                              – T. Bongers
                              Nov 18 at 18:55












                              @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
                              – gimusi
                              Nov 18 at 18:57




                              @T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
                              – gimusi
                              Nov 18 at 18:57












                              Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
                              – T. Bongers
                              Nov 18 at 18:58




                              Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
                              – T. Bongers
                              Nov 18 at 18:58


















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