Evaluate $lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$
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$lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$
$n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
hmm, Is this a good approach?
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$lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$
$n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
hmm, Is this a good approach?
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$lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$
$n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
hmm, Is this a good approach?
real-analysis limits limits-without-lhopital
$lim limits_{n to infty } n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})$
$n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=n^frac{101}{100}((1+frac{1}{n})^{frac{1}{100}}-1)=n^frac{101}{100}(e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}-}-1)$...
hmm, Is this a good approach?
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real-analysis limits limits-without-lhopital
edited Nov 19 at 0:34
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hint
$$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$
observe that
$$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$
and
$$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$
You will find $+infty$.
How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
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Hint:
Rationalize the numerator
The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$
Alternatively,
Set $1/n$ to find
$$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$
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Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as
$$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$
for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:
$$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.
That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).
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Use binomial expansion
$$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$
and therefore
$$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$
This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
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4 Answers
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
hint
$$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$
observe that
$$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$
and
$$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$
You will find $+infty$.
How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
hint
$$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$
observe that
$$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$
and
$$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$
You will find $+infty$.
How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
hint
$$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$
observe that
$$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$
and
$$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$
You will find $+infty$.
hint
$$(n+1)^a-n^a=n^aBigl((1+frac{1}{n})^a-1Bigr)$$
observe that
$$lim_{nto +infty}frac{e^{aln(1+frac 1n)}-1}{aln(1+frac 1n)}=1$$
and
$$lim_{nto+infty}nln(1+frac 1n)=1$$
You will find $+infty$.
answered Nov 18 at 18:56
hamam_Abdallah
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How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
add a comment |
How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
How do we know that $lim limits_{n to infty }aln(1+1/n)=0?$
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:23
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
@matematiccc What is $ln(1+0)$.
– hamam_Abdallah
Nov 18 at 19:26
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
Of course 0. Thanks!
– matematiccc
Nov 18 at 19:27
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Hint:
Rationalize the numerator
The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$
Alternatively,
Set $1/n$ to find
$$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Hint:
Rationalize the numerator
The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$
Alternatively,
Set $1/n$ to find
$$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Hint:
Rationalize the numerator
The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$
Alternatively,
Set $1/n$ to find
$$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$
Hint:
Rationalize the numerator
The general term of the denominator will be $$(n+1)^{(99-r)/100}n^{r/100},0le rle99$$
Alternatively,
Set $1/n$ to find
$$lim_{n to infty } n((n+1)^m-n^m=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{(1+h)^m-1}{h^{1+m}}=lim_{hto0^+}dfrac{mh+binom m2h^{m-1}+cdots+h^m}{h^{1+m}}=+infty$$
edited Nov 20 at 12:18
answered Nov 18 at 18:57
lab bhattacharjee
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Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as
$$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$
for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:
$$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.
That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as
$$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$
for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:
$$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.
That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as
$$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$
for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:
$$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.
That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).
Depending on what exactly you're able to use, this certainly could be a good approach. If you know such facts as
$$lnleft(1 + frac 1 nright) ge frac 1 2 cdotfrac 1 n$$
for all sufficiently large $n$ (which is an easy consequence of the fact that $ln(1+x)$ has derivative $1$ at $x = 0$), then you can quickly finish the problem:
$$e^{frac{ln(1+1/n)}{100}} - 1 ge e^{1/(200n)} - 1 ge 1 + frac{1}{200 n} - 1 = frac{1}{200n}.$$
where the inequality is a consequence of the fact that $e^{t} ge 1 + t$. Now combine this with your power of $n$ to see that the limit is infinite.
That being said, I certainly think that binomial expansion is a more natural approach to the problem. But the advantage of your method is that it really only requires two facts: that the derivative of $ln(1+x)$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero, and that the derivative of $exp$ is $1$ when $x$ is zero (plus, of course, the mean value theorem to actually apply this information).
answered Nov 18 at 19:00
T. Bongers
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Use binomial expansion
$$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$
and therefore
$$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$
This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Use binomial expansion
$$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$
and therefore
$$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$
This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Use binomial expansion
$$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$
and therefore
$$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$
Use binomial expansion
$$(n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}(1+1/n)^{frac{1}{100}}=n^frac{1}{100}left(1+frac1{100n}+Oleft(frac1{n^2}right)right)=$$$$=n^frac{1}{100}+frac1{100n^{99/100}}+Oleft(frac1{n^{199/100}}right)$$
and therefore
$$ n((n+1)^{frac{1}{100}}-n^frac{1}{100})=frac{n^{frac1{100}}}{100}+Oleft(frac1{n^{99/100}}right)toinfty$$
edited Nov 18 at 19:09
answered Nov 18 at 18:54
gimusi
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This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
add a comment |
This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
This is a very nice completely standard solution that doesn't make any effort to address the asker's actual question. It's also not a "hint."
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:55
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
@T.Bongers And what about your comment? I've let the work to conclude to the asker, it is not a full solution.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:57
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
Perhaps an answer to the question should involve a response to the question "hmm, Is this a good approach?"
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 18:58
add a comment |
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