Finding $f(1)$ from the given integral function











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Consider the function-
$$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$



and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$



then what is the value of $f(1)?$




My attempt:



We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$



Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get



$$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$



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    Consider the function-
    $$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$



    and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$



    then what is the value of $f(1)?$




    My attempt:



    We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$



    Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get



    $$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$



    Am I correct?










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      Consider the function-
      $$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$



      and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$



      then what is the value of $f(1)?$




      My attempt:



      We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$



      Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get



      $$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$



      Am I correct?










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      Consider the function-
      $$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$



      and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$



      then what is the value of $f(1)?$




      My attempt:



      We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$



      Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get



      $$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$



      Am I correct?







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          Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.



          We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.



          Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.






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          • Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
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          You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.



          $$
          f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
          $$



          Now, for each fixed $h<2$,



          $$
          int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
          $$



          Thus,



          $$
          f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
          $$






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            $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$






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              The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.



              If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.



              I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.



              I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!






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              • A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
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                Nov 19 at 1:21











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              Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.



              We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.



              Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.






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              • Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
                – tatan
                Nov 19 at 3:21















              up vote
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              accepted










              Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.



              We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.



              Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.






              share|cite|improve this answer





















              • Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
                – tatan
                Nov 19 at 3:21













              up vote
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              down vote



              accepted







              up vote
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              down vote



              accepted






              Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.



              We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.



              Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.






              share|cite|improve this answer












              Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.



              We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.



              Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.







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              answered Nov 19 at 1:17









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              • Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
                – tatan
                Nov 19 at 3:21


















              • Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
                – tatan
                Nov 19 at 3:21
















              Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
              – tatan
              Nov 19 at 3:21




              Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
              – tatan
              Nov 19 at 3:21










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              You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.



              $$
              f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
              $$



              Now, for each fixed $h<2$,



              $$
              int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
              $$



              Thus,



              $$
              f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
              $$






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                You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.



                $$
                f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
                $$



                Now, for each fixed $h<2$,



                $$
                int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
                $$



                Thus,



                $$
                f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
                $$






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                  You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.



                  $$
                  f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
                  $$



                  Now, for each fixed $h<2$,



                  $$
                  int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
                  $$



                  Thus,



                  $$
                  f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
                  $$






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                  You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.



                  $$
                  f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
                  $$



                  Now, for each fixed $h<2$,



                  $$
                  int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
                  $$



                  Thus,



                  $$
                  f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
                  $$







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                      $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$






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                        $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$






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                          $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$






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                          $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$







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                              The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.



                              If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.



                              I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.



                              I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!






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                              • A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
                                – Ross Millikan
                                Nov 19 at 1:21















                              up vote
                              0
                              down vote













                              The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.



                              If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.



                              I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.



                              I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!






                              share|cite|improve this answer





















                              • A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
                                – Ross Millikan
                                Nov 19 at 1:21













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                              up vote
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                              The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.



                              If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.



                              I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.



                              I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!






                              share|cite|improve this answer












                              The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.



                              If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.



                              I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.



                              I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!







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                              answered Nov 18 at 20:38









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                              • A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
                                – Ross Millikan
                                Nov 19 at 1:21


















                              • A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
                                – Ross Millikan
                                Nov 19 at 1:21
















                              A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
                              – Ross Millikan
                              Nov 19 at 1:21




                              A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
                              – Ross Millikan
                              Nov 19 at 1:21


















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