What is a tube in $mathbb{R}^n$?











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Lebesgue's differentiation theorem states that if $x$ is a point in $mathbb{R}^n$ and $f:mathbb{R}^nrightarrowmathbb{R}$ is a Lebesgue integrable function, then the limit of $frac{int_B f dlambda}{lambda(B)}$ over all balls $B$ centered at $x$ as the diameter of $B$ goes to $0$ is equal almost everywhere to $f(x)$. But if you replace balls with other kinds of set with diameter going to $0$, this need not be true. For instance it need not be true if you replace balls with rectangles.



But I just came across a journal paper which shows that if you take the collection of all "tubes" in $mathbb{R}^n$ oriented in certain directions, then the Lebesgue differentiation holds true for this collection for $L^p$ functions with $p>1$. But my question is, what exactly is a tube in $mathbb{R}^n$ as the term is used in this paper? The paper doesn't provide any definition as far as I can tell.



Is it like a cylinder, or what?










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Lebesgue's differentiation theorem states that if $x$ is a point in $mathbb{R}^n$ and $f:mathbb{R}^nrightarrowmathbb{R}$ is a Lebesgue integrable function, then the limit of $frac{int_B f dlambda}{lambda(B)}$ over all balls $B$ centered at $x$ as the diameter of $B$ goes to $0$ is equal almost everywhere to $f(x)$. But if you replace balls with other kinds of set with diameter going to $0$, this need not be true. For instance it need not be true if you replace balls with rectangles.



But I just came across a journal paper which shows that if you take the collection of all "tubes" in $mathbb{R}^n$ oriented in certain directions, then the Lebesgue differentiation holds true for this collection for $L^p$ functions with $p>1$. But my question is, what exactly is a tube in $mathbb{R}^n$ as the term is used in this paper? The paper doesn't provide any definition as far as I can tell.



Is it like a cylinder, or what?










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  • Why the downvote?
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  • Not sure why you were downvoted. But my upvote should compensate for it :-)
    – AOrtiz
    Nov 24 at 2:34













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Lebesgue's differentiation theorem states that if $x$ is a point in $mathbb{R}^n$ and $f:mathbb{R}^nrightarrowmathbb{R}$ is a Lebesgue integrable function, then the limit of $frac{int_B f dlambda}{lambda(B)}$ over all balls $B$ centered at $x$ as the diameter of $B$ goes to $0$ is equal almost everywhere to $f(x)$. But if you replace balls with other kinds of set with diameter going to $0$, this need not be true. For instance it need not be true if you replace balls with rectangles.



But I just came across a journal paper which shows that if you take the collection of all "tubes" in $mathbb{R}^n$ oriented in certain directions, then the Lebesgue differentiation holds true for this collection for $L^p$ functions with $p>1$. But my question is, what exactly is a tube in $mathbb{R}^n$ as the term is used in this paper? The paper doesn't provide any definition as far as I can tell.



Is it like a cylinder, or what?










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Lebesgue's differentiation theorem states that if $x$ is a point in $mathbb{R}^n$ and $f:mathbb{R}^nrightarrowmathbb{R}$ is a Lebesgue integrable function, then the limit of $frac{int_B f dlambda}{lambda(B)}$ over all balls $B$ centered at $x$ as the diameter of $B$ goes to $0$ is equal almost everywhere to $f(x)$. But if you replace balls with other kinds of set with diameter going to $0$, this need not be true. For instance it need not be true if you replace balls with rectangles.



But I just came across a journal paper which shows that if you take the collection of all "tubes" in $mathbb{R}^n$ oriented in certain directions, then the Lebesgue differentiation holds true for this collection for $L^p$ functions with $p>1$. But my question is, what exactly is a tube in $mathbb{R}^n$ as the term is used in this paper? The paper doesn't provide any definition as far as I can tell.



Is it like a cylinder, or what?







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  • Why the downvote?
    – Keshav Srinivasan
    Nov 24 at 2:33










  • Not sure why you were downvoted. But my upvote should compensate for it :-)
    – AOrtiz
    Nov 24 at 2:34


















  • Why the downvote?
    – Keshav Srinivasan
    Nov 24 at 2:33










  • Not sure why you were downvoted. But my upvote should compensate for it :-)
    – AOrtiz
    Nov 24 at 2:34
















Why the downvote?
– Keshav Srinivasan
Nov 24 at 2:33




Why the downvote?
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Not sure why you were downvoted. But my upvote should compensate for it :-)
– AOrtiz
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Not sure why you were downvoted. But my upvote should compensate for it :-)
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Based on reference 19 in the paper you linked, on page 224 of the corresponding article (or page 11 in the .pdf), it looks like a tube is the same as an "oriented" cylinder, and is determined by a direction $gammain S^{n-1}$, and two parameters: a height, and a radius of the cylinder itself.






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    It should be a $n$ dimensional cylinder right? So pick a disk in $mathbb{R}^{n-1}$ then map it's point set, $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},0)$ to $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},z)$ where $z in mathbb{R}$.



    For the usual space, $n=3$, you get a regular cylinder which has it's base disk as a subset of the xy-plane.






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    • Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
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    • I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
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      Nov 24 at 1:00











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    Based on reference 19 in the paper you linked, on page 224 of the corresponding article (or page 11 in the .pdf), it looks like a tube is the same as an "oriented" cylinder, and is determined by a direction $gammain S^{n-1}$, and two parameters: a height, and a radius of the cylinder itself.






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      Based on reference 19 in the paper you linked, on page 224 of the corresponding article (or page 11 in the .pdf), it looks like a tube is the same as an "oriented" cylinder, and is determined by a direction $gammain S^{n-1}$, and two parameters: a height, and a radius of the cylinder itself.






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        Based on reference 19 in the paper you linked, on page 224 of the corresponding article (or page 11 in the .pdf), it looks like a tube is the same as an "oriented" cylinder, and is determined by a direction $gammain S^{n-1}$, and two parameters: a height, and a radius of the cylinder itself.






        share|cite|improve this answer














        Based on reference 19 in the paper you linked, on page 224 of the corresponding article (or page 11 in the .pdf), it looks like a tube is the same as an "oriented" cylinder, and is determined by a direction $gammain S^{n-1}$, and two parameters: a height, and a radius of the cylinder itself.







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            It should be a $n$ dimensional cylinder right? So pick a disk in $mathbb{R}^{n-1}$ then map it's point set, $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},0)$ to $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},z)$ where $z in mathbb{R}$.



            For the usual space, $n=3$, you get a regular cylinder which has it's base disk as a subset of the xy-plane.






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            • Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
              – Keshav Srinivasan
              Nov 24 at 0:22










            • I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
              – bkbowser
              Nov 24 at 1:00















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            It should be a $n$ dimensional cylinder right? So pick a disk in $mathbb{R}^{n-1}$ then map it's point set, $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},0)$ to $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},z)$ where $z in mathbb{R}$.



            For the usual space, $n=3$, you get a regular cylinder which has it's base disk as a subset of the xy-plane.






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            • Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
              – Keshav Srinivasan
              Nov 24 at 0:22










            • I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
              – bkbowser
              Nov 24 at 1:00













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            It should be a $n$ dimensional cylinder right? So pick a disk in $mathbb{R}^{n-1}$ then map it's point set, $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},0)$ to $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},z)$ where $z in mathbb{R}$.



            For the usual space, $n=3$, you get a regular cylinder which has it's base disk as a subset of the xy-plane.






            share|cite|improve this answer












            It should be a $n$ dimensional cylinder right? So pick a disk in $mathbb{R}^{n-1}$ then map it's point set, $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},0)$ to $(x_1,dots,x_{n-1},z)$ where $z in mathbb{R}$.



            For the usual space, $n=3$, you get a regular cylinder which has it's base disk as a subset of the xy-plane.







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            • Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
              – Keshav Srinivasan
              Nov 24 at 0:22










            • I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
              – bkbowser
              Nov 24 at 1:00


















            • Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
              – Keshav Srinivasan
              Nov 24 at 0:22










            • I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
              – bkbowser
              Nov 24 at 1:00
















            Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
            – Keshav Srinivasan
            Nov 24 at 0:22




            Did you read the paper? Is that in fact the set the paper is describing?
            – Keshav Srinivasan
            Nov 24 at 0:22












            I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
            – bkbowser
            Nov 24 at 1:00




            I read a little bit of it but I'm just guessing. Topologists will define shapes in that way; you get the usual object for low dimensions, and a higher dimensional analogue in higher dimensions.
            – bkbowser
            Nov 24 at 1:00


















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