Find complete integral of $(y-x)(qy-px) = (p-q)^{2}$
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Find complete integral for partial differential equation $(y-x)(qy-px) = (p-q)^{2}$ where $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
My attempt:
The given equation is f(x,y,z,p,q) = $(y-x)(qy-px) - (p-q)^{2}$
The Charpit's auxilary equation will be given by
$${dp over 2px-(p+q)y}={dq over 2qy-(p+q)x}={dx over {2(p-q)-x2+xy}}={dy over {-2(p-q)+xy-y2}}$$
From here I tried to proceed but no solvable fraction turned out.
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Find complete integral for partial differential equation $(y-x)(qy-px) = (p-q)^{2}$ where $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
My attempt:
The given equation is f(x,y,z,p,q) = $(y-x)(qy-px) - (p-q)^{2}$
The Charpit's auxilary equation will be given by
$${dp over 2px-(p+q)y}={dq over 2qy-(p+q)x}={dx over {2(p-q)-x2+xy}}={dy over {-2(p-q)+xy-y2}}$$
From here I tried to proceed but no solvable fraction turned out.
differential-equations pde characteristics
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Differential equations are usually somehow related to derivatives, they say.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:16
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sorry , i forgot to mention, here $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
– user2392963
Nov 7 '15 at 15:24
Now it makes a whole lot more sense, thank you.
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Nov 7 '15 at 15:28
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Find complete integral for partial differential equation $(y-x)(qy-px) = (p-q)^{2}$ where $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
My attempt:
The given equation is f(x,y,z,p,q) = $(y-x)(qy-px) - (p-q)^{2}$
The Charpit's auxilary equation will be given by
$${dp over 2px-(p+q)y}={dq over 2qy-(p+q)x}={dx over {2(p-q)-x2+xy}}={dy over {-2(p-q)+xy-y2}}$$
From here I tried to proceed but no solvable fraction turned out.
differential-equations pde characteristics
Find complete integral for partial differential equation $(y-x)(qy-px) = (p-q)^{2}$ where $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
My attempt:
The given equation is f(x,y,z,p,q) = $(y-x)(qy-px) - (p-q)^{2}$
The Charpit's auxilary equation will be given by
$${dp over 2px-(p+q)y}={dq over 2qy-(p+q)x}={dx over {2(p-q)-x2+xy}}={dy over {-2(p-q)+xy-y2}}$$
From here I tried to proceed but no solvable fraction turned out.
differential-equations pde characteristics
differential-equations pde characteristics
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Differential equations are usually somehow related to derivatives, they say.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:16
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sorry , i forgot to mention, here $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
– user2392963
Nov 7 '15 at 15:24
Now it makes a whole lot more sense, thank you.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:28
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Differential equations are usually somehow related to derivatives, they say.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:16
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sorry , i forgot to mention, here $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
– user2392963
Nov 7 '15 at 15:24
Now it makes a whole lot more sense, thank you.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:28
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Differential equations are usually somehow related to derivatives, they say.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:16
Differential equations are usually somehow related to derivatives, they say.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:16
1
1
sorry , i forgot to mention, here $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
– user2392963
Nov 7 '15 at 15:24
sorry , i forgot to mention, here $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
– user2392963
Nov 7 '15 at 15:24
Now it makes a whole lot more sense, thank you.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:28
Now it makes a whole lot more sense, thank you.
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Hint:
Let $begin{cases}u=x+y\v=x-yend{cases}$ ,
Then $dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}-dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$therefore vleft(vdfrac{partial z}{partial u}+udfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)=4left(dfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)^2$
Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
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Take $X$ and $Y$ to be new variables such that
$$X=x+ytag1$$$$Y=xytag2$$
Given that $(y-x)(qy-px)=(p-q)^2$
Now, $$p=dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag3$$and
$$q=dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag4$$
Now plug in $p$ and $q$ in $(2)$ and we get
$$(y-x)left[yleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-xleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]=left[left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]^2$$or
$$implies(y-x)^2dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=(y-x)^2left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)$$
$$implies dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)^2mbox{ or } p=q^2tag5$$
where $p=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}$ and $q=dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}$
$(4)$ is of the form $f(p,q)=0$
So, $$z=aX+bY+ctag6$$
where $a=b^2$, on putting $a$ for $p$ and $b$ for $q$ in $(5)$
Therefore, from $(6)$, the required complete integral is $$z=b^2X+bY+c$$or$$z=b^2(x+y)+bxy+c mbox{ from }(6)$$
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Hint:
Let $begin{cases}u=x+y\v=x-yend{cases}$ ,
Then $dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}-dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$therefore vleft(vdfrac{partial z}{partial u}+udfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)=4left(dfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)^2$
Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
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Hint:
Let $begin{cases}u=x+y\v=x-yend{cases}$ ,
Then $dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}-dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$therefore vleft(vdfrac{partial z}{partial u}+udfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)=4left(dfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)^2$
Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
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Hint:
Let $begin{cases}u=x+y\v=x-yend{cases}$ ,
Then $dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}-dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$therefore vleft(vdfrac{partial z}{partial u}+udfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)=4left(dfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)^2$
Hint:
Let $begin{cases}u=x+y\v=x-yend{cases}$ ,
Then $dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}dfrac{partial u}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial v}dfrac{partial v}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial u}-dfrac{partial z}{partial v}$
$therefore vleft(vdfrac{partial z}{partial u}+udfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)=4left(dfrac{partial z}{partial v}right)^2$
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Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
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Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
– user471651
Nov 18 at 7:52
Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
– user471651
Nov 18 at 7:52
Sir can you please elaborate a more.i am unable to solve the simplified pde
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Take $X$ and $Y$ to be new variables such that
$$X=x+ytag1$$$$Y=xytag2$$
Given that $(y-x)(qy-px)=(p-q)^2$
Now, $$p=dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag3$$and
$$q=dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag4$$
Now plug in $p$ and $q$ in $(2)$ and we get
$$(y-x)left[yleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-xleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]=left[left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]^2$$or
$$implies(y-x)^2dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=(y-x)^2left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)$$
$$implies dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)^2mbox{ or } p=q^2tag5$$
where $p=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}$ and $q=dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}$
$(4)$ is of the form $f(p,q)=0$
So, $$z=aX+bY+ctag6$$
where $a=b^2$, on putting $a$ for $p$ and $b$ for $q$ in $(5)$
Therefore, from $(6)$, the required complete integral is $$z=b^2X+bY+c$$or$$z=b^2(x+y)+bxy+c mbox{ from }(6)$$
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Take $X$ and $Y$ to be new variables such that
$$X=x+ytag1$$$$Y=xytag2$$
Given that $(y-x)(qy-px)=(p-q)^2$
Now, $$p=dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag3$$and
$$q=dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag4$$
Now plug in $p$ and $q$ in $(2)$ and we get
$$(y-x)left[yleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-xleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]=left[left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]^2$$or
$$implies(y-x)^2dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=(y-x)^2left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)$$
$$implies dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)^2mbox{ or } p=q^2tag5$$
where $p=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}$ and $q=dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}$
$(4)$ is of the form $f(p,q)=0$
So, $$z=aX+bY+ctag6$$
where $a=b^2$, on putting $a$ for $p$ and $b$ for $q$ in $(5)$
Therefore, from $(6)$, the required complete integral is $$z=b^2X+bY+c$$or$$z=b^2(x+y)+bxy+c mbox{ from }(6)$$
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Take $X$ and $Y$ to be new variables such that
$$X=x+ytag1$$$$Y=xytag2$$
Given that $(y-x)(qy-px)=(p-q)^2$
Now, $$p=dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag3$$and
$$q=dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag4$$
Now plug in $p$ and $q$ in $(2)$ and we get
$$(y-x)left[yleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-xleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]=left[left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]^2$$or
$$implies(y-x)^2dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=(y-x)^2left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)$$
$$implies dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)^2mbox{ or } p=q^2tag5$$
where $p=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}$ and $q=dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}$
$(4)$ is of the form $f(p,q)=0$
So, $$z=aX+bY+ctag6$$
where $a=b^2$, on putting $a$ for $p$ and $b$ for $q$ in $(5)$
Therefore, from $(6)$, the required complete integral is $$z=b^2X+bY+c$$or$$z=b^2(x+y)+bxy+c mbox{ from }(6)$$
Take $X$ and $Y$ to be new variables such that
$$X=x+ytag1$$$$Y=xytag2$$
Given that $(y-x)(qy-px)=(p-q)^2$
Now, $$p=dfrac{partial z}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial x}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial x}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag3$$and
$$q=dfrac{partial z}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}dfrac{partial X}{partial y}+dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}dfrac{partial Y}{partial y}=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}tag4$$
Now plug in $p$ and $q$ in $(2)$ and we get
$$(y-x)left[yleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-xleft(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]=left[left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+ydfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)-left(dfrac{partial z}{partial X}+xdfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)right]^2$$or
$$implies(y-x)^2dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=(y-x)^2left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)$$
$$implies dfrac{partial z}{partial X}=left(dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}right)^2mbox{ or } p=q^2tag5$$
where $p=dfrac{partial z}{partial X}$ and $q=dfrac{partial z}{partial Y}$
$(4)$ is of the form $f(p,q)=0$
So, $$z=aX+bY+ctag6$$
where $a=b^2$, on putting $a$ for $p$ and $b$ for $q$ in $(5)$
Therefore, from $(6)$, the required complete integral is $$z=b^2X+bY+c$$or$$z=b^2(x+y)+bxy+c mbox{ from }(6)$$
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Differential equations are usually somehow related to derivatives, they say.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:16
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sorry , i forgot to mention, here $p={ partial z over partial x},q={ partial z over partial y}$.
– user2392963
Nov 7 '15 at 15:24
Now it makes a whole lot more sense, thank you.
– Ivan Neretin
Nov 7 '15 at 15:28