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The minimum value of $$|z-1+2i| + |4i-3-z|$$ is?
The only method of moving further that comes to my mind is assuming $$z=x+iy$$.
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The minimum value of $$|z-1+2i| + |4i-3-z|$$ is?
The only method of moving further that comes to my mind is assuming $$z=x+iy$$.
algebra-precalculus complex-numbers
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That is a reasonable approach and the one I use if I don't have a better idea. What happened when you tried it? You have a function of two real variables, compute it, take the derivatives, set to zero, and what happens? There is an easier geometric approach if you think about what the absolute values represent.
– Ross Millikan
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An equation whose solution set is the segment $overline{AB}$ is $|A-P|+|P-B| = |A-B|$
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The minimum value of $$|z-1+2i| + |4i-3-z|$$ is?
The only method of moving further that comes to my mind is assuming $$z=x+iy$$.
algebra-precalculus complex-numbers
The minimum value of $$|z-1+2i| + |4i-3-z|$$ is?
The only method of moving further that comes to my mind is assuming $$z=x+iy$$.
algebra-precalculus complex-numbers
algebra-precalculus complex-numbers
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That is a reasonable approach and the one I use if I don't have a better idea. What happened when you tried it? You have a function of two real variables, compute it, take the derivatives, set to zero, and what happens? There is an easier geometric approach if you think about what the absolute values represent.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 5:21
An equation whose solution set is the segment $overline{AB}$ is $|A-P|+|P-B| = |A-B|$
– steven gregory
Nov 19 at 5:52
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That is a reasonable approach and the one I use if I don't have a better idea. What happened when you tried it? You have a function of two real variables, compute it, take the derivatives, set to zero, and what happens? There is an easier geometric approach if you think about what the absolute values represent.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 5:21
An equation whose solution set is the segment $overline{AB}$ is $|A-P|+|P-B| = |A-B|$
– steven gregory
Nov 19 at 5:52
That is a reasonable approach and the one I use if I don't have a better idea. What happened when you tried it? You have a function of two real variables, compute it, take the derivatives, set to zero, and what happens? There is an easier geometric approach if you think about what the absolute values represent.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 5:21
That is a reasonable approach and the one I use if I don't have a better idea. What happened when you tried it? You have a function of two real variables, compute it, take the derivatives, set to zero, and what happens? There is an easier geometric approach if you think about what the absolute values represent.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 5:21
An equation whose solution set is the segment $overline{AB}$ is $|A-P|+|P-B| = |A-B|$
– steven gregory
Nov 19 at 5:52
An equation whose solution set is the segment $overline{AB}$ is $|A-P|+|P-B| = |A-B|$
– steven gregory
Nov 19 at 5:52
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Hint: The sum of two distances of a point $z$ from two points is minimum when $z$ is between them.
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The minimum is the distance between $1-2i$ and $3-4i$ which is 4$sqrt {(3-1)^2+(-4+2)^2} = 2sqrt 2 $$
This is when $z$ is on the segment joining the two points and $z$ is between them.
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You may proceed as follows:
You have
$|z-a| + |z-b| stackrel{!}{rightarrow} mbox{Min}$ with
$a= 1-2i$ and $b = -3+4i$
The triangle inequality gives immediately
$$|z-a| + |z-b| geq |z-a - (z-b)| = |b-a| = |-4 +6i| = 2sqrt{13}$$
Note, that the minimum is attained when $z$ lies on the segment connecting $a$ and $b$.
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A bit of geometry in the complex plane:
1)$d:=$
$|z-(1-2i)| +|z-(-3+4i)|$ , $z=x+iy$.
$A(1,-2i)$, $B(-3,4i)$, $C(x,iy)$.
1) $A,B,C$ are not collinear.
In $triangle ABC:$
$d= |AC|+|BC| >|AB|.
(Strict triangle inequality ).
2) $A,B,C$ are collinear.
a) $z$ is within the line segment $AB$,
then $d=|AB|$((why?).
b) $z$ is outside the line segment $|AB|$,
then $d>|AB|$(why?).
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Hint: The sum of two distances of a point $z$ from two points is minimum when $z$ is between them.
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Hint: The sum of two distances of a point $z$ from two points is minimum when $z$ is between them.
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Hint: The sum of two distances of a point $z$ from two points is minimum when $z$ is between them.
Hint: The sum of two distances of a point $z$ from two points is minimum when $z$ is between them.
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The minimum is the distance between $1-2i$ and $3-4i$ which is 4$sqrt {(3-1)^2+(-4+2)^2} = 2sqrt 2 $$
This is when $z$ is on the segment joining the two points and $z$ is between them.
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The minimum is the distance between $1-2i$ and $3-4i$ which is 4$sqrt {(3-1)^2+(-4+2)^2} = 2sqrt 2 $$
This is when $z$ is on the segment joining the two points and $z$ is between them.
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The minimum is the distance between $1-2i$ and $3-4i$ which is 4$sqrt {(3-1)^2+(-4+2)^2} = 2sqrt 2 $$
This is when $z$ is on the segment joining the two points and $z$ is between them.
The minimum is the distance between $1-2i$ and $3-4i$ which is 4$sqrt {(3-1)^2+(-4+2)^2} = 2sqrt 2 $$
This is when $z$ is on the segment joining the two points and $z$ is between them.
answered Nov 19 at 5:51
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You may proceed as follows:
You have
$|z-a| + |z-b| stackrel{!}{rightarrow} mbox{Min}$ with
$a= 1-2i$ and $b = -3+4i$
The triangle inequality gives immediately
$$|z-a| + |z-b| geq |z-a - (z-b)| = |b-a| = |-4 +6i| = 2sqrt{13}$$
Note, that the minimum is attained when $z$ lies on the segment connecting $a$ and $b$.
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You may proceed as follows:
You have
$|z-a| + |z-b| stackrel{!}{rightarrow} mbox{Min}$ with
$a= 1-2i$ and $b = -3+4i$
The triangle inequality gives immediately
$$|z-a| + |z-b| geq |z-a - (z-b)| = |b-a| = |-4 +6i| = 2sqrt{13}$$
Note, that the minimum is attained when $z$ lies on the segment connecting $a$ and $b$.
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up vote
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You may proceed as follows:
You have
$|z-a| + |z-b| stackrel{!}{rightarrow} mbox{Min}$ with
$a= 1-2i$ and $b = -3+4i$
The triangle inequality gives immediately
$$|z-a| + |z-b| geq |z-a - (z-b)| = |b-a| = |-4 +6i| = 2sqrt{13}$$
Note, that the minimum is attained when $z$ lies on the segment connecting $a$ and $b$.
You may proceed as follows:
You have
$|z-a| + |z-b| stackrel{!}{rightarrow} mbox{Min}$ with
$a= 1-2i$ and $b = -3+4i$
The triangle inequality gives immediately
$$|z-a| + |z-b| geq |z-a - (z-b)| = |b-a| = |-4 +6i| = 2sqrt{13}$$
Note, that the minimum is attained when $z$ lies on the segment connecting $a$ and $b$.
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answered Nov 19 at 7:53
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A bit of geometry in the complex plane:
1)$d:=$
$|z-(1-2i)| +|z-(-3+4i)|$ , $z=x+iy$.
$A(1,-2i)$, $B(-3,4i)$, $C(x,iy)$.
1) $A,B,C$ are not collinear.
In $triangle ABC:$
$d= |AC|+|BC| >|AB|.
(Strict triangle inequality ).
2) $A,B,C$ are collinear.
a) $z$ is within the line segment $AB$,
then $d=|AB|$((why?).
b) $z$ is outside the line segment $|AB|$,
then $d>|AB|$(why?).
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
A bit of geometry in the complex plane:
1)$d:=$
$|z-(1-2i)| +|z-(-3+4i)|$ , $z=x+iy$.
$A(1,-2i)$, $B(-3,4i)$, $C(x,iy)$.
1) $A,B,C$ are not collinear.
In $triangle ABC:$
$d= |AC|+|BC| >|AB|.
(Strict triangle inequality ).
2) $A,B,C$ are collinear.
a) $z$ is within the line segment $AB$,
then $d=|AB|$((why?).
b) $z$ is outside the line segment $|AB|$,
then $d>|AB|$(why?).
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
A bit of geometry in the complex plane:
1)$d:=$
$|z-(1-2i)| +|z-(-3+4i)|$ , $z=x+iy$.
$A(1,-2i)$, $B(-3,4i)$, $C(x,iy)$.
1) $A,B,C$ are not collinear.
In $triangle ABC:$
$d= |AC|+|BC| >|AB|.
(Strict triangle inequality ).
2) $A,B,C$ are collinear.
a) $z$ is within the line segment $AB$,
then $d=|AB|$((why?).
b) $z$ is outside the line segment $|AB|$,
then $d>|AB|$(why?).
A bit of geometry in the complex plane:
1)$d:=$
$|z-(1-2i)| +|z-(-3+4i)|$ , $z=x+iy$.
$A(1,-2i)$, $B(-3,4i)$, $C(x,iy)$.
1) $A,B,C$ are not collinear.
In $triangle ABC:$
$d= |AC|+|BC| >|AB|.
(Strict triangle inequality ).
2) $A,B,C$ are collinear.
a) $z$ is within the line segment $AB$,
then $d=|AB|$((why?).
b) $z$ is outside the line segment $|AB|$,
then $d>|AB|$(why?).
edited Nov 19 at 10:06
answered Nov 19 at 9:48
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That is a reasonable approach and the one I use if I don't have a better idea. What happened when you tried it? You have a function of two real variables, compute it, take the derivatives, set to zero, and what happens? There is an easier geometric approach if you think about what the absolute values represent.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 5:21
An equation whose solution set is the segment $overline{AB}$ is $|A-P|+|P-B| = |A-B|$
– steven gregory
Nov 19 at 5:52