Can I use UPS to send my tax returns from abroad to IRS Austin?
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I have used an online service to do my taxes and they have asked me to mail the signed returns along with my W2s and other documents to IRS at Austin and the treasury dept of New Jersey for the state returns. I have moved to Italy and I was wondering if I can use UPS to send my tax returns.
Edit:
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
Edit: Maybe I should call IRS and ask them.
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I have used an online service to do my taxes and they have asked me to mail the signed returns along with my W2s and other documents to IRS at Austin and the treasury dept of New Jersey for the state returns. I have moved to Italy and I was wondering if I can use UPS to send my tax returns.
Edit:
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
Edit: Maybe I should call IRS and ask them.
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I have used an online service to do my taxes and they have asked me to mail the signed returns along with my W2s and other documents to IRS at Austin and the treasury dept of New Jersey for the state returns. I have moved to Italy and I was wondering if I can use UPS to send my tax returns.
Edit:
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
Edit: Maybe I should call IRS and ask them.
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I have used an online service to do my taxes and they have asked me to mail the signed returns along with my W2s and other documents to IRS at Austin and the treasury dept of New Jersey for the state returns. I have moved to Italy and I was wondering if I can use UPS to send my tax returns.
Edit:
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
Edit: Maybe I should call IRS and ask them.
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From the IRS website -
Austin - Internal Revenue Submission Processing Center
3651 S IH35
Austin, TX 78741
You are not the first person needing to ship to IRS via Fed-Ex or other private carrier.
For New Jersey, the shipping address is:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
200 Woolverton Street
Building 20
Trenton, NJ 08611
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
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answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
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Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
1
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
add a comment |
This is not a direct answer to your question, but I am suggesting an alternative. FreeFillableForms.com is endorsed by the IRS (https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/before-starting-free-file-fillable-forms) and allows you to e-file, which is the arguably fastest, safest way to get your return to the IRS (I am surprised your online service did not give you that option). They have most forms available, but in case you need exotic ones, double check before your start. Be aware that the IRS does some sanity checks on e-filed returns before accepting them, so you might get an e-mail a day after filing that your return was rejected because you forgot to check some box or left something blank. In that case simply correct the issue and e-file again. (I mention this so you allow a couple of days of buffer before the due date.)
Many states have similar online filing services, although some have restrictions with regard to the forms that are available (e.g. resident vs nonresident).
In your case the disadvantage is that you have to type in all the data from the forms you already have, so you are trading labor for cost savings and speed.
If you are worried about the speed of the postal service and your are expecting a refund (if you owe, the IRS might charge late fees and interest), you could also file an extension electronically (with minimal typing), so it won't matter if the return arrives a couple of days late.
EDIT: As @DilipSarwate mentioned, you have an automatic extension until June 15 anyway, so the above only applies if you needed more time than that.
answered Apr 1 at 16:31
ThomasThomas
212
That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
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I successfully filed Federal, NY and NJ taxes from overseas this year. I just went to my regular post office and posted them like I would any other normal international mail. It took around 2 months from posting to receiving my refund.
Federal:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service
Austin, TX 73301-0215 USA
New Jersey:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
P.O. Box 555
Trenton, NJ 08647-0555
New York:
State Processing Center
P.O. Box 61000
Albany, NY 12261-0001
Although you are not filing a NYS refund, I want to add this in case someone else who is filing NYS from overseas finds this answer. They may note that the first page of your NYS refund has this big scary message:
This message is pretty much rubbish. I have never once filed my NYS tax return electronically due to my wife not having a social security number, which immediately excludes you from e-filing. Also they do not allow e-filing when you have an overseas address. You can safely ignore this message.
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
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So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
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From the IRS website -
Austin - Internal Revenue Submission Processing Center
3651 S IH35
Austin, TX 78741
You are not the first person needing to ship to IRS via Fed-Ex or other private carrier.
For New Jersey, the shipping address is:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
200 Woolverton Street
Building 20
Trenton, NJ 08611
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
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Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
1
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
add a comment |
From the IRS website -
Austin - Internal Revenue Submission Processing Center
3651 S IH35
Austin, TX 78741
You are not the first person needing to ship to IRS via Fed-Ex or other private carrier.
For New Jersey, the shipping address is:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
200 Woolverton Street
Building 20
Trenton, NJ 08611
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
4
Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
1
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
add a comment |
From the IRS website -
Austin - Internal Revenue Submission Processing Center
3651 S IH35
Austin, TX 78741
You are not the first person needing to ship to IRS via Fed-Ex or other private carrier.
For New Jersey, the shipping address is:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
200 Woolverton Street
Building 20
Trenton, NJ 08611
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
From the IRS website -
Austin - Internal Revenue Submission Processing Center
3651 S IH35
Austin, TX 78741
You are not the first person needing to ship to IRS via Fed-Ex or other private carrier.
For New Jersey, the shipping address is:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
200 Woolverton Street
Building 20
Trenton, NJ 08611
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
edited Apr 1 at 15:05
yoozer8
2,25841123
2,25841123
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
answered Apr 1 at 9:53
JoeTaxpayer♦JoeTaxpayer
147k23237476
147k23237476
4
Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
1
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
add a comment |
4
Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
1
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
4
4
Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
Joe: The address you give is from the section for those living in the US; there is a separate section for US citizens and tax residents living abroad, and that gives the mailing address as Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Austin, TX 73301-0215, USA, and doesn't mention sending the return via PDS (Private Delivery Services) such as FedEx and UPS etc at all. Maybe the IRS doesn't accept returns that come via PDS from abroad? On the positive side, those filing from abroad automatically have an extension till June 15 for filing, though tax owed must be paid by April 15.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 1 at 14:43
1
1
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
@DilipSarwate OP may well have been in the US for all relevant times in 2018 -- in which case he should be using the domestic address. (Relevant times = times he earned any money).
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:20
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
Yes, I was thinking just, exactly.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 1 at 17:45
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
I permanently moved out of USA. I am filing as a non resident alien on the income I earned while I was in USA.
– Morpheus
Apr 1 at 18:03
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
@DilipSarwate - the address with the 9 digit zip is definitely a PO Box. I agree that the IRS site shows only the PO address for international returns, but I’d be confident the address would work.
– JoeTaxpayer♦
Apr 2 at 0:48
add a comment |
This is not a direct answer to your question, but I am suggesting an alternative. FreeFillableForms.com is endorsed by the IRS (https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/before-starting-free-file-fillable-forms) and allows you to e-file, which is the arguably fastest, safest way to get your return to the IRS (I am surprised your online service did not give you that option). They have most forms available, but in case you need exotic ones, double check before your start. Be aware that the IRS does some sanity checks on e-filed returns before accepting them, so you might get an e-mail a day after filing that your return was rejected because you forgot to check some box or left something blank. In that case simply correct the issue and e-file again. (I mention this so you allow a couple of days of buffer before the due date.)
Many states have similar online filing services, although some have restrictions with regard to the forms that are available (e.g. resident vs nonresident).
In your case the disadvantage is that you have to type in all the data from the forms you already have, so you are trading labor for cost savings and speed.
If you are worried about the speed of the postal service and your are expecting a refund (if you owe, the IRS might charge late fees and interest), you could also file an extension electronically (with minimal typing), so it won't matter if the return arrives a couple of days late.
EDIT: As @DilipSarwate mentioned, you have an automatic extension until June 15 anyway, so the above only applies if you needed more time than that.
answered Apr 1 at 16:31
ThomasThomas
212
That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
add a comment |
This is not a direct answer to your question, but I am suggesting an alternative. FreeFillableForms.com is endorsed by the IRS (https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/before-starting-free-file-fillable-forms) and allows you to e-file, which is the arguably fastest, safest way to get your return to the IRS (I am surprised your online service did not give you that option). They have most forms available, but in case you need exotic ones, double check before your start. Be aware that the IRS does some sanity checks on e-filed returns before accepting them, so you might get an e-mail a day after filing that your return was rejected because you forgot to check some box or left something blank. In that case simply correct the issue and e-file again. (I mention this so you allow a couple of days of buffer before the due date.)
Many states have similar online filing services, although some have restrictions with regard to the forms that are available (e.g. resident vs nonresident).
In your case the disadvantage is that you have to type in all the data from the forms you already have, so you are trading labor for cost savings and speed.
If you are worried about the speed of the postal service and your are expecting a refund (if you owe, the IRS might charge late fees and interest), you could also file an extension electronically (with minimal typing), so it won't matter if the return arrives a couple of days late.
EDIT: As @DilipSarwate mentioned, you have an automatic extension until June 15 anyway, so the above only applies if you needed more time than that.
answered Apr 1 at 16:31
ThomasThomas
212
That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
add a comment |
This is not a direct answer to your question, but I am suggesting an alternative. FreeFillableForms.com is endorsed by the IRS (https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/before-starting-free-file-fillable-forms) and allows you to e-file, which is the arguably fastest, safest way to get your return to the IRS (I am surprised your online service did not give you that option). They have most forms available, but in case you need exotic ones, double check before your start. Be aware that the IRS does some sanity checks on e-filed returns before accepting them, so you might get an e-mail a day after filing that your return was rejected because you forgot to check some box or left something blank. In that case simply correct the issue and e-file again. (I mention this so you allow a couple of days of buffer before the due date.)
Many states have similar online filing services, although some have restrictions with regard to the forms that are available (e.g. resident vs nonresident).
In your case the disadvantage is that you have to type in all the data from the forms you already have, so you are trading labor for cost savings and speed.
If you are worried about the speed of the postal service and your are expecting a refund (if you owe, the IRS might charge late fees and interest), you could also file an extension electronically (with minimal typing), so it won't matter if the return arrives a couple of days late.
EDIT: As @DilipSarwate mentioned, you have an automatic extension until June 15 anyway, so the above only applies if you needed more time than that.
answered Apr 1 at 16:31
ThomasThomas
212
This is not a direct answer to your question, but I am suggesting an alternative. FreeFillableForms.com is endorsed by the IRS (https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/before-starting-free-file-fillable-forms) and allows you to e-file, which is the arguably fastest, safest way to get your return to the IRS (I am surprised your online service did not give you that option). They have most forms available, but in case you need exotic ones, double check before your start. Be aware that the IRS does some sanity checks on e-filed returns before accepting them, so you might get an e-mail a day after filing that your return was rejected because you forgot to check some box or left something blank. In that case simply correct the issue and e-file again. (I mention this so you allow a couple of days of buffer before the due date.)
Many states have similar online filing services, although some have restrictions with regard to the forms that are available (e.g. resident vs nonresident).
In your case the disadvantage is that you have to type in all the data from the forms you already have, so you are trading labor for cost savings and speed.
If you are worried about the speed of the postal service and your are expecting a refund (if you owe, the IRS might charge late fees and interest), you could also file an extension electronically (with minimal typing), so it won't matter if the return arrives a couple of days late.
EDIT: As @DilipSarwate mentioned, you have an automatic extension until June 15 anyway, so the above only applies if you needed more time than that.
answered Apr 1 at 16:31
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That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
add a comment |
That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
That may not work. E-"file" is not filing. It is a mutual agreement to interchange data in lieu of filing -- and IRS will only agree if the data submitted conforms to certain norms and what the system expects. If not, IRS will bounce it out and make you file for real on paper, to make you swear the data is accurate with an ink signature (so they can getcha if it's wrong). That is what his system is telling him to do. Your site would do the same, for the same reasns.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 17:16
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
@Harper, I don't see anything in the question indicating what "his system is telling him to do" and the IRS heavily advertises "e-filing", since it saves them the cost and potential errors of manual data entry, so I doubt they would refuse a return that meets the sanity checks I mentioned. That said, I believe most e-filing systems want you to verify your identity by entering information from last year's return, so you may not be able to use them for your first return, which may or may not be the case for the OP.
– Thomas
Apr 1 at 20:28
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
In the first sentence of OP. Yes, IRS wants everyone to e-file who can. Those sanity checks may be broader than you think. Aside from cases too complex for automation (want to see "too complex for automation", check out the efforts to automate the 1023 form!) I am saying they may also reject in special areas of interest to IRS, e.g. areas where there is frequent fraud, where they really want a human to sign a form so they can't claim later it was a computer glitch. Judges don't like computers. They do like paper.
– Harper
Apr 1 at 20:56
add a comment |
I successfully filed Federal, NY and NJ taxes from overseas this year. I just went to my regular post office and posted them like I would any other normal international mail. It took around 2 months from posting to receiving my refund.
Federal:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service
Austin, TX 73301-0215 USA
New Jersey:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
P.O. Box 555
Trenton, NJ 08647-0555
New York:
State Processing Center
P.O. Box 61000
Albany, NY 12261-0001
Although you are not filing a NYS refund, I want to add this in case someone else who is filing NYS from overseas finds this answer. They may note that the first page of your NYS refund has this big scary message:
This message is pretty much rubbish. I have never once filed my NYS tax return electronically due to my wife not having a social security number, which immediately excludes you from e-filing. Also they do not allow e-filing when you have an overseas address. You can safely ignore this message.
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
add a comment |
I successfully filed Federal, NY and NJ taxes from overseas this year. I just went to my regular post office and posted them like I would any other normal international mail. It took around 2 months from posting to receiving my refund.
Federal:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service
Austin, TX 73301-0215 USA
New Jersey:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
P.O. Box 555
Trenton, NJ 08647-0555
New York:
State Processing Center
P.O. Box 61000
Albany, NY 12261-0001
Although you are not filing a NYS refund, I want to add this in case someone else who is filing NYS from overseas finds this answer. They may note that the first page of your NYS refund has this big scary message:
This message is pretty much rubbish. I have never once filed my NYS tax return electronically due to my wife not having a social security number, which immediately excludes you from e-filing. Also they do not allow e-filing when you have an overseas address. You can safely ignore this message.
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
add a comment |
I successfully filed Federal, NY and NJ taxes from overseas this year. I just went to my regular post office and posted them like I would any other normal international mail. It took around 2 months from posting to receiving my refund.
Federal:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service
Austin, TX 73301-0215 USA
New Jersey:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
P.O. Box 555
Trenton, NJ 08647-0555
New York:
State Processing Center
P.O. Box 61000
Albany, NY 12261-0001
Although you are not filing a NYS refund, I want to add this in case someone else who is filing NYS from overseas finds this answer. They may note that the first page of your NYS refund has this big scary message:
This message is pretty much rubbish. I have never once filed my NYS tax return electronically due to my wife not having a social security number, which immediately excludes you from e-filing. Also they do not allow e-filing when you have an overseas address. You can safely ignore this message.
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
I successfully filed Federal, NY and NJ taxes from overseas this year. I just went to my regular post office and posted them like I would any other normal international mail. It took around 2 months from posting to receiving my refund.
Federal:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service
Austin, TX 73301-0215 USA
New Jersey:
State of New Jersey
Division of Taxation
Revenue Processing Center
P.O. Box 555
Trenton, NJ 08647-0555
New York:
State Processing Center
P.O. Box 61000
Albany, NY 12261-0001
Although you are not filing a NYS refund, I want to add this in case someone else who is filing NYS from overseas finds this answer. They may note that the first page of your NYS refund has this big scary message:
This message is pretty much rubbish. I have never once filed my NYS tax return electronically due to my wife not having a social security number, which immediately excludes you from e-filing. Also they do not allow e-filing when you have an overseas address. You can safely ignore this message.
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
edited Apr 2 at 19:58
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
answered Apr 2 at 19:53
Mark HendersonMark Henderson
553312
553312
So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
add a comment |
So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
So you used the post office and its worked, But the OP wants to know about sending the tax return by UPS which the IRS includes in a category it calls PDS (Private Delivery Service). PDSs generally require a street address to deliver; they can't deliver to a P.O. Box the way that the post office can.
– Dilip Sarwate
Apr 3 at 2:59
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
@DilipSarwate I see. I didn't understand that from the question.
– Mark Henderson
Apr 3 at 3:19
add a comment |
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