Finding $f(1)$ from the given integral function
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Consider the function-
$$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$
and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$
then what is the value of $f(1)?$
My attempt:
We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$
Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get
$$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$
Am I correct?
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Consider the function-
$$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$
and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$
then what is the value of $f(1)?$
My attempt:
We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$
Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get
$$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$
Am I correct?
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Consider the function-
$$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$
and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$
then what is the value of $f(1)?$
My attempt:
We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$
Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get
$$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$
Am I correct?
calculus integration
Consider the function-
$$g(x)=begin{cases} 1, text{ if } xin[-1,1]\ 0, text{ otherwise } end{cases}$$
and $$f(x)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{x-h}^{x+h}g(y)dy$$
then what is the value of $f(1)?$
My attempt:
We get, $$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy$$
Applying Newton-Leibnitz for the nuemerator after applying L'Hopital for this $0/0$ limit, we get
$$f(1)=frac{g(1+h)+g(1-h)}{2}=1$$
Am I correct?
calculus integration
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Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.
We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.
Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.
Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
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You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
$$
Now, for each fixed $h<2$,
$$
int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
$$
Thus,
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
$$
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$$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$
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The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.
If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.
I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.
I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!
A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.
We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.
Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.
Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
Nov 19 at 3:21
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.
We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.
Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.
Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
Nov 19 at 3:21
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.
We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.
Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.
Since the function under limit is an even function of $h$ it is sufficient to deal with $hto 0^{+}$ only.
We have $$lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y),dy=lim_{hto 0^{+}}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y),dy$$ The integral evaluates to $h$ and hence the above limit is $1/2$.
Your approach is fine but the issue is that you seem to assume $g$ continous at $1$.
answered Nov 19 at 1:17
Paramanand Singh
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Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
Nov 19 at 3:21
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Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
Nov 19 at 3:21
Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
Nov 19 at 3:21
Thanks. I think I had gone blind while solving this to miss out on the real trivial part
– tatan
Nov 19 at 3:21
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You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
$$
Now, for each fixed $h<2$,
$$
int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
$$
Thus,
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
$$
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You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
$$
Now, for each fixed $h<2$,
$$
int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
$$
Thus,
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
$$
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You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
$$
Now, for each fixed $h<2$,
$$
int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
$$
Thus,
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
$$
You are replacing the wrong variable in your solution.
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy.
$$
Now, for each fixed $h<2$,
$$
int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy=1-(1-h)=h.
$$
Thus,
$$
f(1)=lim_{hto 0}frac{h}{2h}=lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{2}=frac{1}{2}.
$$
answered Nov 18 at 19:34
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$$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$
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$$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$
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$$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$
$$f(1)=lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1+h}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}int_{1-h}^{1}g(y)dy = lim_{hto0}frac{1}{2h}(1-(1-h)) ={1over 2}$$
answered Nov 18 at 19:37
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The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.
If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.
I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.
I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!
A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.
If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.
I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.
I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!
A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
add a comment |
up vote
0
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up vote
0
down vote
The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.
If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.
I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.
I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!
The two sided limit, $lim_{h rightarrow 0}~g(1+h)$, does not exist because $g(x)$ is discontinuous in $x=1$. (To be more specific, we are dealing with a jump discontinuity.) This will cause problems when computing $f(1)$.
If we would to take the one-sided limit from above, then we would get $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1+h) = 0$ and $lim_{h rightarrow 0^+}~g(1-h) = 1$.
I have not done the full derivation but I am guessing the final answer would be $f(1)=1/2$.
I hope this helps you out enough, good luck solving the math problem!
answered Nov 18 at 20:38
Martijn Cazemier
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A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
add a comment |
A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
A jump discontinuity is no problem for an integral. For any $h lt 2$ we have the computation of $f(1)$ at that $h$ is $frac 12$, so the limit as $h to 0$ is $frac 12$
– Ross Millikan
Nov 19 at 1:21
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