How to show $lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^n(1+(k)/n)^3(1/n)=15/4$?












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How would I show $$lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^n(1+(k)/n)^3(1/n)=15/4?$$



My attempt is using the Riemann Sum technique. We know $(1+(k)/n)^2=f(zeta_k)$ and $(1/n)=Delta x$. So the definite integral goes from $a$ to $b$ where $b-a=1$.



I think I should find the formula for $$sum_{k=1}^nk^3.$$ This would be $1+8+27+cdots+n^3$... but then I get stuck.










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    As a Riemannian sum, $int_0^1(1+x)^3dx=15/4$.
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    This is odd, you are asked to find the limit of some sums, thus you turn to integrals (good idea), but then, instead of evaluating the relevant integral (a trivial task), you suddenly make a U-turn to come back to sums... where you declare you are stuck.
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How would I show $$lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^n(1+(k)/n)^3(1/n)=15/4?$$



My attempt is using the Riemann Sum technique. We know $(1+(k)/n)^2=f(zeta_k)$ and $(1/n)=Delta x$. So the definite integral goes from $a$ to $b$ where $b-a=1$.



I think I should find the formula for $$sum_{k=1}^nk^3.$$ This would be $1+8+27+cdots+n^3$... but then I get stuck.










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    Ask Faulhaber...
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    – Yves Daoust
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    As a Riemannian sum, $int_0^1(1+x)^3dx=15/4$.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:31








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    This is odd, you are asked to find the limit of some sums, thus you turn to integrals (good idea), but then, instead of evaluating the relevant integral (a trivial task), you suddenly make a U-turn to come back to sums... where you declare you are stuck.
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    – Did
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:52














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How would I show $$lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^n(1+(k)/n)^3(1/n)=15/4?$$



My attempt is using the Riemann Sum technique. We know $(1+(k)/n)^2=f(zeta_k)$ and $(1/n)=Delta x$. So the definite integral goes from $a$ to $b$ where $b-a=1$.



I think I should find the formula for $$sum_{k=1}^nk^3.$$ This would be $1+8+27+cdots+n^3$... but then I get stuck.










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How would I show $$lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^n(1+(k)/n)^3(1/n)=15/4?$$



My attempt is using the Riemann Sum technique. We know $(1+(k)/n)^2=f(zeta_k)$ and $(1/n)=Delta x$. So the definite integral goes from $a$ to $b$ where $b-a=1$.



I think I should find the formula for $$sum_{k=1}^nk^3.$$ This would be $1+8+27+cdots+n^3$... but then I get stuck.







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    $begingroup$
    As a Riemannian sum, $int_0^1(1+x)^3dx=15/4$.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:31








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This is odd, you are asked to find the limit of some sums, thus you turn to integrals (good idea), but then, instead of evaluating the relevant integral (a trivial task), you suddenly make a U-turn to come back to sums... where you declare you are stuck.
    $endgroup$
    – Did
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:52


















  • $begingroup$
    Ask Faulhaber...
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:30






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    As a Riemannian sum, $int_0^1(1+x)^3dx=15/4$.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:31








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This is odd, you are asked to find the limit of some sums, thus you turn to integrals (good idea), but then, instead of evaluating the relevant integral (a trivial task), you suddenly make a U-turn to come back to sums... where you declare you are stuck.
    $endgroup$
    – Did
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:52
















$begingroup$
Ask Faulhaber...
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Dec 3 '18 at 14:30




$begingroup$
Ask Faulhaber...
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Dec 3 '18 at 14:30




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$begingroup$
As a Riemannian sum, $int_0^1(1+x)^3dx=15/4$.
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Dec 3 '18 at 14:31






$begingroup$
As a Riemannian sum, $int_0^1(1+x)^3dx=15/4$.
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Dec 3 '18 at 14:31






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$begingroup$
This is odd, you are asked to find the limit of some sums, thus you turn to integrals (good idea), but then, instead of evaluating the relevant integral (a trivial task), you suddenly make a U-turn to come back to sums... where you declare you are stuck.
$endgroup$
– Did
Dec 3 '18 at 14:52




$begingroup$
This is odd, you are asked to find the limit of some sums, thus you turn to integrals (good idea), but then, instead of evaluating the relevant integral (a trivial task), you suddenly make a U-turn to come back to sums... where you declare you are stuck.
$endgroup$
– Did
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Hint:



$$S_n:=sum_{k=1}^n k^3$$ must be a quartic polynomial in $n$ because $S_{n}-S_{n-1}=n^3$ is a cubic polynomial.



Now



$$S_n-S_{n-1}=an^4+bn^3+cn^2+cdots-a(n-1)^4-b(n-1)^3-c(n-1)^2-cdots
\=4an^3+bn^3-bn^3+cdots$$
and lower order terms. You conclude that



$$S_nsimfrac{n^4}4$$ and this is enough for you to evaluate the limit.






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    Hint:



    $$S_n:=sum_{k=1}^n k^3$$ must be a quartic polynomial in $n$ because $S_{n}-S_{n-1}=n^3$ is a cubic polynomial.



    Now



    $$S_n-S_{n-1}=an^4+bn^3+cn^2+cdots-a(n-1)^4-b(n-1)^3-c(n-1)^2-cdots
    \=4an^3+bn^3-bn^3+cdots$$
    and lower order terms. You conclude that



    $$S_nsimfrac{n^4}4$$ and this is enough for you to evaluate the limit.






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      Hint:



      $$S_n:=sum_{k=1}^n k^3$$ must be a quartic polynomial in $n$ because $S_{n}-S_{n-1}=n^3$ is a cubic polynomial.



      Now



      $$S_n-S_{n-1}=an^4+bn^3+cn^2+cdots-a(n-1)^4-b(n-1)^3-c(n-1)^2-cdots
      \=4an^3+bn^3-bn^3+cdots$$
      and lower order terms. You conclude that



      $$S_nsimfrac{n^4}4$$ and this is enough for you to evaluate the limit.






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        Hint:



        $$S_n:=sum_{k=1}^n k^3$$ must be a quartic polynomial in $n$ because $S_{n}-S_{n-1}=n^3$ is a cubic polynomial.



        Now



        $$S_n-S_{n-1}=an^4+bn^3+cn^2+cdots-a(n-1)^4-b(n-1)^3-c(n-1)^2-cdots
        \=4an^3+bn^3-bn^3+cdots$$
        and lower order terms. You conclude that



        $$S_nsimfrac{n^4}4$$ and this is enough for you to evaluate the limit.






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        Hint:



        $$S_n:=sum_{k=1}^n k^3$$ must be a quartic polynomial in $n$ because $S_{n}-S_{n-1}=n^3$ is a cubic polynomial.



        Now



        $$S_n-S_{n-1}=an^4+bn^3+cn^2+cdots-a(n-1)^4-b(n-1)^3-c(n-1)^2-cdots
        \=4an^3+bn^3-bn^3+cdots$$
        and lower order terms. You conclude that



        $$S_nsimfrac{n^4}4$$ and this is enough for you to evaluate the limit.







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