Cyrilic characters in label and ref in pdflatex











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I want to write label and ref with Cyrillic(Russian) characters in pdflatex. usepackage[russian]{babel} in preamble.



I tried label{detokenize{}}, but it doesn't work.



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} 
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}









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    With pdfLaTeX I would only use safe ASCII characters in labels. Sometimes certain non-ASCII characters may work by accident, but that is not at all guaranteed (e.g. section{Ä}label{ä}ref{ä} works for me, but section{ß}label{ß}ref{ß} fails spectacularly). If you want non-ASCII labels you need to use a full Unicode engine such as XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX.
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    Dec 7 at 7:35

















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I want to write label and ref with Cyrillic(Russian) characters in pdflatex. usepackage[russian]{babel} in preamble.



I tried label{detokenize{}}, but it doesn't work.



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} 
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}









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  • 1




    Welcome to TeX.SX! Could you please add a complete but minimal example document with your attempts?
    – siracusa
    Dec 7 at 7:04






  • 2




    With pdfLaTeX I would only use safe ASCII characters in labels. Sometimes certain non-ASCII characters may work by accident, but that is not at all guaranteed (e.g. section{Ä}label{ä}ref{ä} works for me, but section{ß}label{ß}ref{ß} fails spectacularly). If you want non-ASCII labels you need to use a full Unicode engine such as XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX.
    – moewe
    Dec 7 at 7:35















up vote
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down vote

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up vote
6
down vote

favorite











I want to write label and ref with Cyrillic(Russian) characters in pdflatex. usepackage[russian]{babel} in preamble.



I tried label{detokenize{}}, but it doesn't work.



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} 
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}









share|improve this question















I want to write label and ref with Cyrillic(Russian) characters in pdflatex. usepackage[russian]{babel} in preamble.



I tried label{detokenize{}}, but it doesn't work.



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} 
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}






pdftex labels ref russian






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  • 1




    Welcome to TeX.SX! Could you please add a complete but minimal example document with your attempts?
    – siracusa
    Dec 7 at 7:04






  • 2




    With pdfLaTeX I would only use safe ASCII characters in labels. Sometimes certain non-ASCII characters may work by accident, but that is not at all guaranteed (e.g. section{Ä}label{ä}ref{ä} works for me, but section{ß}label{ß}ref{ß} fails spectacularly). If you want non-ASCII labels you need to use a full Unicode engine such as XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX.
    – moewe
    Dec 7 at 7:35
















  • 1




    Welcome to TeX.SX! Could you please add a complete but minimal example document with your attempts?
    – siracusa
    Dec 7 at 7:04






  • 2




    With pdfLaTeX I would only use safe ASCII characters in labels. Sometimes certain non-ASCII characters may work by accident, but that is not at all guaranteed (e.g. section{Ä}label{ä}ref{ä} works for me, but section{ß}label{ß}ref{ß} fails spectacularly). If you want non-ASCII labels you need to use a full Unicode engine such as XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX.
    – moewe
    Dec 7 at 7:35










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Welcome to TeX.SX! Could you please add a complete but minimal example document with your attempts?
– siracusa
Dec 7 at 7:04




Welcome to TeX.SX! Could you please add a complete but minimal example document with your attempts?
– siracusa
Dec 7 at 7:04




2




2




With pdfLaTeX I would only use safe ASCII characters in labels. Sometimes certain non-ASCII characters may work by accident, but that is not at all guaranteed (e.g. section{Ä}label{ä}ref{ä} works for me, but section{ß}label{ß}ref{ß} fails spectacularly). If you want non-ASCII labels you need to use a full Unicode engine such as XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX.
– moewe
Dec 7 at 7:35






With pdfLaTeX I would only use safe ASCII characters in labels. Sometimes certain non-ASCII characters may work by accident, but that is not at all guaranteed (e.g. section{Ä}label{ä}ref{ä} works for me, but section{ß}label{ß}ref{ß} fails spectacularly). If you want non-ASCII labels you need to use a full Unicode engine such as XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX.
– moewe
Dec 7 at 7:35












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It sort of works if you do a “double detokenization”:



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}


enter image description here



What's the problem? With a single detokenize, the label is written as is in the .aux file, but when the .aux file is read in, the Cyrillic characters are no longer “detokenized” and it's impossible to form control sequence names with them.



You see you can, is it worth the pain? I don't think so. On the other hand, Unicode TeX engines such as XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX have no problem with those characters in labels.






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  • It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
    – Shalom Alecheim
    Dec 7 at 10:45










  • @ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 12:45











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It sort of works if you do a “double detokenization”:



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}


enter image description here



What's the problem? With a single detokenize, the label is written as is in the .aux file, but when the .aux file is read in, the Cyrillic characters are no longer “detokenized” and it's impossible to form control sequence names with them.



You see you can, is it worth the pain? I don't think so. On the other hand, Unicode TeX engines such as XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX have no problem with those characters in labels.






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  • It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
    – Shalom Alecheim
    Dec 7 at 10:45










  • @ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 12:45















up vote
6
down vote



accepted










It sort of works if you do a “double detokenization”:



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}


enter image description here



What's the problem? With a single detokenize, the label is written as is in the .aux file, but when the .aux file is read in, the Cyrillic characters are no longer “detokenized” and it's impossible to form control sequence names with them.



You see you can, is it worth the pain? I don't think so. On the other hand, Unicode TeX engines such as XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX have no problem with those characters in labels.






share|improve this answer





















  • It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
    – Shalom Alecheim
    Dec 7 at 10:45










  • @ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 12:45













up vote
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up vote
6
down vote



accepted






It sort of works if you do a “double detokenization”:



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}


enter image description here



What's the problem? With a single detokenize, the label is written as is in the .aux file, but when the .aux file is read in, the Cyrillic characters are no longer “detokenized” and it's impossible to form control sequence names with them.



You see you can, is it worth the pain? I don't think so. On the other hand, Unicode TeX engines such as XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX have no problem with those characters in labels.






share|improve this answer












It sort of works if you do a “double detokenization”:



documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
usepackage[russian]{babel}

begin{document}
section{Раздел}
label{detokenize{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}}
Русский текст ref{detokenize{Ссылка_на_раздел}}
end{document}


enter image description here



What's the problem? With a single detokenize, the label is written as is in the .aux file, but when the .aux file is read in, the Cyrillic characters are no longer “detokenized” and it's impossible to form control sequence names with them.



You see you can, is it worth the pain? I don't think so. On the other hand, Unicode TeX engines such as XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX have no problem with those characters in labels.







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  • It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
    – Shalom Alecheim
    Dec 7 at 10:45










  • @ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 12:45


















  • It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
    – Shalom Alecheim
    Dec 7 at 10:45










  • @ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 12:45
















It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
– Shalom Alecheim
Dec 7 at 10:45




It works as I expected, unless hyperref package destroys all success even it placed before or after redefined label and ref
– Shalom Alecheim
Dec 7 at 10:45












@ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
– egreg
Dec 7 at 12:45




@ShalomAlecheim hyperref does further massaging, so it's kind of expected that it doesn't work.
– egreg
Dec 7 at 12:45


















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