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Following the code used both here and here, using hyphenrules should inform polyglossia about breaking points within a word. The following code does not break the word in question. Why not? What can I do? I'm using version 1.43 of polyglossia.



documentclass{article}



usepackage{polyglossia}

setmainlanguage{english}



begin{hyphenrules}{english}

hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}

hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}

end{hyphenrules}



begin{document}



parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}



end{document}


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    Isn't this the standard 'LaTeX won't hyphenate words already containing a hyphen' issue (cf. tex.stackexchange.com/q/2706/35864)? If you try nonderivational you get all the break points you wish for.

    – moewe
    Feb 16 at 20:03


















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Following the code used both here and here, using hyphenrules should inform polyglossia about breaking points within a word. The following code does not break the word in question. Why not? What can I do? I'm using version 1.43 of polyglossia.



documentclass{article}



usepackage{polyglossia}

setmainlanguage{english}



begin{hyphenrules}{english}

hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}

hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}

end{hyphenrules}



begin{document}



parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}



end{document}


enter image description here






hyphenation polyglossia







share|improve this question


















  • 2





    Isn't this the standard 'LaTeX won't hyphenate words already containing a hyphen' issue (cf. tex.stackexchange.com/q/2706/35864)? If you try nonderivational you get all the break points you wish for.

    – moewe
    Feb 16 at 20:03
















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Following the code used both here and here, using hyphenrules should inform polyglossia about breaking points within a word. The following code does not break the word in question. Why not? What can I do? I'm using version 1.43 of polyglossia.



documentclass{article}



usepackage{polyglossia}

setmainlanguage{english}



begin{hyphenrules}{english}

hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}

hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}

end{hyphenrules}



begin{document}



parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}



end{document}


enter image description here






hyphenation polyglossia







share|improve this question














Following the code used both here and here, using hyphenrules should inform polyglossia about breaking points within a word. The following code does not break the word in question. Why not? What can I do? I'm using version 1.43 of polyglossia.



documentclass{article}



usepackage{polyglossia}

setmainlanguage{english}



begin{hyphenrules}{english}

hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}

hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}

end{hyphenrules}



begin{document}



parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}



end{document}


enter image description here






hyphenation polyglossia




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    Isn't this the standard 'LaTeX won't hyphenate words already containing a hyphen' issue (cf. tex.stackexchange.com/q/2706/35864)? If you try nonderivational you get all the break points you wish for.

    – moewe
    Feb 16 at 20:03
















  • 2





    Isn't this the standard 'LaTeX won't hyphenate words already containing a hyphen' issue (cf. tex.stackexchange.com/q/2706/35864)? If you try nonderivational you get all the break points you wish for.

    – moewe
    Feb 16 at 20:03










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Isn't this the standard 'LaTeX won't hyphenate words already containing a hyphen' issue (cf. tex.stackexchange.com/q/2706/35864)? If you try nonderivational you get all the break points you wish for.

– moewe
Feb 16 at 20:03







Isn't this the standard 'LaTeX won't hyphenate words already containing a hyphen' issue (cf. tex.stackexchange.com/q/2706/35864)? If you try nonderivational you get all the break points you wish for.

– moewe
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TeX doesn't hyphenate words that contain a hyphen (precisely the current hyphenchar for the current font).



You can define a macro for this:



newcommand{hy}{-nobreakhspace{0pt}}


The nobreak (that is, penalty10000) disallows a break at the hspace, which on the other hand allows hyphenation for the following word part.



documentclass{article}



usepackage{polyglossia}

setmainlanguage{english}



makeatletter % babel has `allowhyphens

providecommand{allowhyphens}{ifvmodeelsenobreakhskipz@skipfi}

makeatother



newcommand{hy}{-allowhyphens}



begin{document}



parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonhy derivational}



end{document}


Here I use a safer definition, that does nothing if allowhyphens happens to be found in vertical mode. It is essentially the same as in babel.



enter image description here



Note that de-ri-va-tio-nal is very wrong for English hyphenation rules.






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  • I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

    – Sverre
    Feb 18 at 16:30






  • 1





    In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

    – egreg
    Feb 18 at 16:50



















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In German language this is a well known problem, because german language contains a lot of concatenated words, single words divided by -. For example: Baden-Württemberg.



If you need hyphenation in the single words you need to add local hyphenations with -.



In your case change non-derivational to non-de-ri-va-tio-nal.



Please see the following MWE



documentclass{article}



usepackage{polyglossia}

setmainlanguage{english}



begin{hyphenrules}{english}

hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}

hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}

end{hyphenrules}



begin{document}



parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}



No - in word:

parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonderivational}



With local hyphenations texttt{-}:

parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}



end{document}


and its result:



resulting pdf






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    TeX doesn't hyphenate words that contain a hyphen (precisely the current hyphenchar for the current font).



    You can define a macro for this:



    newcommand{hy}{-nobreakhspace{0pt}}


    The nobreak (that is, penalty10000) disallows a break at the hspace, which on the other hand allows hyphenation for the following word part.



    documentclass{article}
    

    
usepackage{polyglossia}
    
setmainlanguage{english}
    

    
makeatletter % babel has `allowhyphens
    
providecommand{allowhyphens}{ifvmodeelsenobreakhskipz@skipfi}
    
makeatother
    

    
newcommand{hy}{-allowhyphens}
    

    
begin{document}
    

    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonhy derivational}
    

    
end{document}


    Here I use a safer definition, that does nothing if allowhyphens happens to be found in vertical mode. It is essentially the same as in babel.



    enter image description here



    Note that de-ri-va-tio-nal is very wrong for English hyphenation rules.






    share|improve this answer
























    • I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

      – Sverre
      Feb 18 at 16:30






    • 1





      In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

      – egreg
      Feb 18 at 16:50
















    1














    TeX doesn't hyphenate words that contain a hyphen (precisely the current hyphenchar for the current font).



    You can define a macro for this:



    newcommand{hy}{-nobreakhspace{0pt}}


    The nobreak (that is, penalty10000) disallows a break at the hspace, which on the other hand allows hyphenation for the following word part.



    documentclass{article}
    

    
usepackage{polyglossia}
    
setmainlanguage{english}
    

    
makeatletter % babel has `allowhyphens
    
providecommand{allowhyphens}{ifvmodeelsenobreakhskipz@skipfi}
    
makeatother
    

    
newcommand{hy}{-allowhyphens}
    

    
begin{document}
    

    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonhy derivational}
    

    
end{document}


    Here I use a safer definition, that does nothing if allowhyphens happens to be found in vertical mode. It is essentially the same as in babel.



    enter image description here



    Note that de-ri-va-tio-nal is very wrong for English hyphenation rules.






    share|improve this answer
























    • I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

      – Sverre
      Feb 18 at 16:30






    • 1





      In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

      – egreg
      Feb 18 at 16:50














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    TeX doesn't hyphenate words that contain a hyphen (precisely the current hyphenchar for the current font).



    You can define a macro for this:



    newcommand{hy}{-nobreakhspace{0pt}}


    The nobreak (that is, penalty10000) disallows a break at the hspace, which on the other hand allows hyphenation for the following word part.



    documentclass{article}
    

    
usepackage{polyglossia}
    
setmainlanguage{english}
    

    
makeatletter % babel has `allowhyphens
    
providecommand{allowhyphens}{ifvmodeelsenobreakhskipz@skipfi}
    
makeatother
    

    
newcommand{hy}{-allowhyphens}
    

    
begin{document}
    

    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonhy derivational}
    

    
end{document}


    Here I use a safer definition, that does nothing if allowhyphens happens to be found in vertical mode. It is essentially the same as in babel.



    enter image description here



    Note that de-ri-va-tio-nal is very wrong for English hyphenation rules.






    share|improve this answer













    TeX doesn't hyphenate words that contain a hyphen (precisely the current hyphenchar for the current font).



    You can define a macro for this:



    newcommand{hy}{-nobreakhspace{0pt}}


    The nobreak (that is, penalty10000) disallows a break at the hspace, which on the other hand allows hyphenation for the following word part.



    documentclass{article}
    

    
usepackage{polyglossia}
    
setmainlanguage{english}
    

    
makeatletter % babel has `allowhyphens
    
providecommand{allowhyphens}{ifvmodeelsenobreakhskipz@skipfi}
    
makeatother
    

    
newcommand{hy}{-allowhyphens}
    

    
begin{document}
    

    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonhy derivational}
    

    
end{document}


    Here I use a safer definition, that does nothing if allowhyphens happens to be found in vertical mode. It is essentially the same as in babel.



    enter image description here



    Note that de-ri-va-tio-nal is very wrong for English hyphenation rules.







    share|improve this answer












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    • I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

      – Sverre
      Feb 18 at 16:30






    • 1





      In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

      – egreg
      Feb 18 at 16:50



















    • I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

      – Sverre
      Feb 18 at 16:30






    • 1





      In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

      – egreg
      Feb 18 at 16:50

















    I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

    – Sverre
    Feb 18 at 16:30





    I looked up in Bringhurst to find out about hyphenation rules in English, but he doesn't give them. What is wrong about it, by the way?

    – Sverre
    Feb 18 at 16:30




    1




    1





    In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

    – egreg
    Feb 18 at 16:50





    In AmEnglish derivation hyphenates as der-i-va-tion, according to Merriam-Webster. In BrEnglish it should be de-riv-a-tion

    – egreg
    Feb 18 at 16:50











    2














    In German language this is a well known problem, because german language contains a lot of concatenated words, single words divided by -. For example: Baden-Württemberg.



    If you need hyphenation in the single words you need to add local hyphenations with -.



    In your case change non-derivational to non-de-ri-va-tio-nal.



    Please see the following MWE



    documentclass{article}
    

    
usepackage{polyglossia}
    
setmainlanguage{english}
    

    
begin{hyphenrules}{english}
    
hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}
    
hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
    
end{hyphenrules}
    

    
begin{document}
    

    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}
    

    
No - in word:
    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonderivational}
    

    
With local hyphenations texttt{-}:
    
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
    

    
end{document}


    and its result:



    resulting pdf






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      In German language this is a well known problem, because german language contains a lot of concatenated words, single words divided by -. For example: Baden-Württemberg.



      If you need hyphenation in the single words you need to add local hyphenations with -.



      In your case change non-derivational to non-de-ri-va-tio-nal.



      Please see the following MWE



      documentclass{article}
      

      
usepackage{polyglossia}
      
setmainlanguage{english}
      

      
begin{hyphenrules}{english}
      
hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}
      
hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
      
end{hyphenrules}
      

      
begin{document}
      

      
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}
      

      
No - in word:
      
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonderivational}
      

      
With local hyphenations texttt{-}:
      
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
      

      
end{document}


      and its result:



      resulting pdf






      share|improve this answer




























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        In German language this is a well known problem, because german language contains a lot of concatenated words, single words divided by -. For example: Baden-Württemberg.



        If you need hyphenation in the single words you need to add local hyphenations with -.



        In your case change non-derivational to non-de-ri-va-tio-nal.



        Please see the following MWE



        documentclass{article}
        

        
usepackage{polyglossia}
        
setmainlanguage{english}
        

        
begin{hyphenrules}{english}
        
hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}
        
hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
        
end{hyphenrules}
        

        
begin{document}
        

        
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}
        

        
No - in word:
        
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonderivational}
        

        
With local hyphenations texttt{-}:
        
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
        

        
end{document}


        and its result:



        resulting pdf






        share|improve this answer















        In German language this is a well known problem, because german language contains a lot of concatenated words, single words divided by -. For example: Baden-Württemberg.



        If you need hyphenation in the single words you need to add local hyphenations with -.



        In your case change non-derivational to non-de-ri-va-tio-nal.



        Please see the following MWE



        documentclass{article}
        

        
usepackage{polyglossia}
        
setmainlanguage{english}
        

        
begin{hyphenrules}{english}
        
hyphenation{de-ri-va-tio-nal}
        
hyphenation{non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
        
end{hyphenrules}
        

        
begin{document}
        

        
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-derivational}
        

        
No - in word:
        
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}nonderivational}
        

        
With local hyphenations texttt{-}:
        
parbox{0pt}{hspace{0pt}non-de-ri-va-tio-nal}
        

        
end{document}


        and its result:



        resulting pdf







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