Formula for tangent plane to surface given by parametrization












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I am aware of how to find an equation of the tangent place to a surface that is given as the graph of a function $z = g(x,y)$. Here one finds a normal vector by essentially taking the partial derivatives.



My question is if there is a formula that can be used when the surface is given by a general parametrization $vec{r}(u,v)$. I would assume that there are still some partial derivatives and maybe a cross product somewhere, but I am not quite seeing it.



(I am just asking out of curiosity.)










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    I am aware of how to find an equation of the tangent place to a surface that is given as the graph of a function $z = g(x,y)$. Here one finds a normal vector by essentially taking the partial derivatives.



    My question is if there is a formula that can be used when the surface is given by a general parametrization $vec{r}(u,v)$. I would assume that there are still some partial derivatives and maybe a cross product somewhere, but I am not quite seeing it.



    (I am just asking out of curiosity.)










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      I am aware of how to find an equation of the tangent place to a surface that is given as the graph of a function $z = g(x,y)$. Here one finds a normal vector by essentially taking the partial derivatives.



      My question is if there is a formula that can be used when the surface is given by a general parametrization $vec{r}(u,v)$. I would assume that there are still some partial derivatives and maybe a cross product somewhere, but I am not quite seeing it.



      (I am just asking out of curiosity.)










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      I am aware of how to find an equation of the tangent place to a surface that is given as the graph of a function $z = g(x,y)$. Here one finds a normal vector by essentially taking the partial derivatives.



      My question is if there is a formula that can be used when the surface is given by a general parametrization $vec{r}(u,v)$. I would assume that there are still some partial derivatives and maybe a cross product somewhere, but I am not quite seeing it.



      (I am just asking out of curiosity.)







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          You know that your plane is parallel to $vec r_u = partialvec r/partial u$ and $vec r_v = partialvec r/partial v$, and also passes through point $vec r(u,v)$. Can you write down the equation from those hints?






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            So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
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            Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
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          You know that your plane is parallel to $vec r_u = partialvec r/partial u$ and $vec r_v = partialvec r/partial v$, and also passes through point $vec r(u,v)$. Can you write down the equation from those hints?






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            So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
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            – John Doe
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:21












          • $begingroup$
            Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
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            – Vasily Mitch
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:28


















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          $begingroup$

          You know that your plane is parallel to $vec r_u = partialvec r/partial u$ and $vec r_v = partialvec r/partial v$, and also passes through point $vec r(u,v)$. Can you write down the equation from those hints?






          share|cite|improve this answer









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          • $begingroup$
            So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
            $endgroup$
            – John Doe
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:21












          • $begingroup$
            Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
            $endgroup$
            – Vasily Mitch
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:28
















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          You know that your plane is parallel to $vec r_u = partialvec r/partial u$ and $vec r_v = partialvec r/partial v$, and also passes through point $vec r(u,v)$. Can you write down the equation from those hints?






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          You know that your plane is parallel to $vec r_u = partialvec r/partial u$ and $vec r_v = partialvec r/partial v$, and also passes through point $vec r(u,v)$. Can you write down the equation from those hints?







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          answered Dec 4 '18 at 19:19









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          • $begingroup$
            So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
            $endgroup$
            – John Doe
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:21












          • $begingroup$
            Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
            $endgroup$
            – Vasily Mitch
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:28




















          • $begingroup$
            So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
            $endgroup$
            – John Doe
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:21












          • $begingroup$
            Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
            $endgroup$
            – Vasily Mitch
            Dec 4 '18 at 19:28


















          $begingroup$
          So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
          $endgroup$
          – John Doe
          Dec 4 '18 at 19:21






          $begingroup$
          So I would guess that normal vector is $vec{r}_utimes vec{r}_v$ and then I just pick a point.
          $endgroup$
          – John Doe
          Dec 4 '18 at 19:21














          $begingroup$
          Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
          $endgroup$
          – Vasily Mitch
          Dec 4 '18 at 19:28






          $begingroup$
          Yep. The equation can be written as a triple product $(vec R - vec r, vec r_u times vec r_v)=0$, where $vec R$ is a point of a plane.
          $endgroup$
          – Vasily Mitch
          Dec 4 '18 at 19:28




















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