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Given a function $f in L^1(mathbb{R})$, suppose I want to evaluate the following integral



$$lim_{ntoinfty} int_{mathbb{R}}e^{-nx^2}f(x)dx$$



It looks to me like one could use dominated convergence here. If we let $f_n(x) = e^{-nx^2}f(x)$, then clearly $|f_n(x)| leq |f(x)|$ for $n geq 0$, and we know that $|f(x)|$ is an integrable function. The issue I am having is showing that $f_n(x)$ itself is integrable - it seems clear to me that it would be, but not sure how to show it (maybe it just follows from the above inequality since $|f(x)|$ is integrable?)



Also, suppose we can show dominated convergence theorem applies, the limit is a little bit interesting as it depends on $x$. Clearly, if $xneq 0$, then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} e^{-nx^2}f(x) = 0,$$ but if $x = 0$, then what happens?



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    ${0}$ is of measure $0$, so it doesn't matter what happens there.
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Given a function $f in L^1(mathbb{R})$, suppose I want to evaluate the following integral



$$lim_{ntoinfty} int_{mathbb{R}}e^{-nx^2}f(x)dx$$



It looks to me like one could use dominated convergence here. If we let $f_n(x) = e^{-nx^2}f(x)$, then clearly $|f_n(x)| leq |f(x)|$ for $n geq 0$, and we know that $|f(x)|$ is an integrable function. The issue I am having is showing that $f_n(x)$ itself is integrable - it seems clear to me that it would be, but not sure how to show it (maybe it just follows from the above inequality since $|f(x)|$ is integrable?)



Also, suppose we can show dominated convergence theorem applies, the limit is a little bit interesting as it depends on $x$. Clearly, if $xneq 0$, then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} e^{-nx^2}f(x) = 0,$$ but if $x = 0$, then what happens?



Thanks!










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    ${0}$ is of measure $0$, so it doesn't matter what happens there.
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    – saulspatz
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:13














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Given a function $f in L^1(mathbb{R})$, suppose I want to evaluate the following integral



$$lim_{ntoinfty} int_{mathbb{R}}e^{-nx^2}f(x)dx$$



It looks to me like one could use dominated convergence here. If we let $f_n(x) = e^{-nx^2}f(x)$, then clearly $|f_n(x)| leq |f(x)|$ for $n geq 0$, and we know that $|f(x)|$ is an integrable function. The issue I am having is showing that $f_n(x)$ itself is integrable - it seems clear to me that it would be, but not sure how to show it (maybe it just follows from the above inequality since $|f(x)|$ is integrable?)



Also, suppose we can show dominated convergence theorem applies, the limit is a little bit interesting as it depends on $x$. Clearly, if $xneq 0$, then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} e^{-nx^2}f(x) = 0,$$ but if $x = 0$, then what happens?



Thanks!










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Given a function $f in L^1(mathbb{R})$, suppose I want to evaluate the following integral



$$lim_{ntoinfty} int_{mathbb{R}}e^{-nx^2}f(x)dx$$



It looks to me like one could use dominated convergence here. If we let $f_n(x) = e^{-nx^2}f(x)$, then clearly $|f_n(x)| leq |f(x)|$ for $n geq 0$, and we know that $|f(x)|$ is an integrable function. The issue I am having is showing that $f_n(x)$ itself is integrable - it seems clear to me that it would be, but not sure how to show it (maybe it just follows from the above inequality since $|f(x)|$ is integrable?)



Also, suppose we can show dominated convergence theorem applies, the limit is a little bit interesting as it depends on $x$. Clearly, if $xneq 0$, then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} e^{-nx^2}f(x) = 0,$$ but if $x = 0$, then what happens?



Thanks!







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  • $begingroup$
    ${0}$ is of measure $0$, so it doesn't matter what happens there.
    $endgroup$
    – saulspatz
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:13


















  • $begingroup$
    ${0}$ is of measure $0$, so it doesn't matter what happens there.
    $endgroup$
    – saulspatz
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:13
















$begingroup$
${0}$ is of measure $0$, so it doesn't matter what happens there.
$endgroup$
– saulspatz
Dec 4 '18 at 19:13




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${0}$ is of measure $0$, so it doesn't matter what happens there.
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$f_n$ is integrable because $|f_n| le |f|$, as you mentioned.



We have $$lim_{n to infty} f_n(x) = begin{cases} 0 & x ne 0 \ f(0) & x = 0. end{cases}$$



The integral of this function is simply zero. So if you show that you can use the dominated convergence theorem, then $lim_{n to infty} int f_n = 0$.






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    What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
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    – Sorey
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:17










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    @Sorey Sure, that's enough.
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    – angryavian
    Dec 4 '18 at 20:25











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$f_n$ is integrable because $|f_n| le |f|$, as you mentioned.



We have $$lim_{n to infty} f_n(x) = begin{cases} 0 & x ne 0 \ f(0) & x = 0. end{cases}$$



The integral of this function is simply zero. So if you show that you can use the dominated convergence theorem, then $lim_{n to infty} int f_n = 0$.






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    What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
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    – Sorey
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    @Sorey Sure, that's enough.
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    – angryavian
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$f_n$ is integrable because $|f_n| le |f|$, as you mentioned.



We have $$lim_{n to infty} f_n(x) = begin{cases} 0 & x ne 0 \ f(0) & x = 0. end{cases}$$



The integral of this function is simply zero. So if you show that you can use the dominated convergence theorem, then $lim_{n to infty} int f_n = 0$.






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    What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
    $endgroup$
    – Sorey
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:17










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    @Sorey Sure, that's enough.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Dec 4 '18 at 20:25














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$f_n$ is integrable because $|f_n| le |f|$, as you mentioned.



We have $$lim_{n to infty} f_n(x) = begin{cases} 0 & x ne 0 \ f(0) & x = 0. end{cases}$$



The integral of this function is simply zero. So if you show that you can use the dominated convergence theorem, then $lim_{n to infty} int f_n = 0$.






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$f_n$ is integrable because $|f_n| le |f|$, as you mentioned.



We have $$lim_{n to infty} f_n(x) = begin{cases} 0 & x ne 0 \ f(0) & x = 0. end{cases}$$



The integral of this function is simply zero. So if you show that you can use the dominated convergence theorem, then $lim_{n to infty} int f_n = 0$.







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answered Dec 4 '18 at 19:15









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    What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
    $endgroup$
    – Sorey
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:17










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    @Sorey Sure, that's enough.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Dec 4 '18 at 20:25


















  • $begingroup$
    What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
    $endgroup$
    – Sorey
    Dec 4 '18 at 19:17










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    @Sorey Sure, that's enough.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Dec 4 '18 at 20:25
















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What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
$endgroup$
– Sorey
Dec 4 '18 at 19:17




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What else needs to be shown to use dominated convergence? I thought it was that the sequence $f_n$ had to be bounded above by an integrable function and be integrable themselves and then conditions were satisfied.
$endgroup$
– Sorey
Dec 4 '18 at 19:17












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@Sorey Sure, that's enough.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Dec 4 '18 at 20:25




$begingroup$
@Sorey Sure, that's enough.
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