Find $T$ such that $ker T={P(x)in P_2(mathbb R)mid P(4)=0}$











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Find a linear transformation $T:P_2(mathbb R)tomathbb R$, $P_2(mathbb R)$ being the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$, such that $ker T=U$ where $U={P(x)in P_2(mathbb R)mid P(4)=0}$.




A vector $pin P_2(mathbb R)$ could be written as $p=ax^2+bx+c$, so any vector $uin U$ could then be expressed as



$$u=ax^2+bx+(-16a-4b)=a(x^2-16)+b(x-4)$$



Then $uinmathrm{span}{x^2-16,x-4}$. Where do I go from here to find a possible $T$?



I know that both of these vectors are linearly independent. I've seen similar questions/examples that suggest I "extend this set of vectors to a basis of insert vector space". Here, I imagine it means I need to add another vector to the spanning set so that it forms a basis of $P_2(mathbb R)$, which I believe would be satisfied by $1$ because no linear combination of the vectors in the spanning set can yield a constant.



The aforementioned examples went to say that any possible transformation $T$ should satisfy



$$begin{cases}T(x^2-16)=0\T(x-4)=0\T(1)neq0end{cases}$$



and I see why this should be the case, but I don't know what $T$ is supposed to look like, as I'm only really used to working with transformations $T:mathbb R^mtomathbb R^n$. Would it necessarily be a matrix? and of what dimensions?










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    Hy not just consider $T:Pmapsto P(4)$ ? :-)
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Find a linear transformation $T:P_2(mathbb R)tomathbb R$, $P_2(mathbb R)$ being the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$, such that $ker T=U$ where $U={P(x)in P_2(mathbb R)mid P(4)=0}$.




A vector $pin P_2(mathbb R)$ could be written as $p=ax^2+bx+c$, so any vector $uin U$ could then be expressed as



$$u=ax^2+bx+(-16a-4b)=a(x^2-16)+b(x-4)$$



Then $uinmathrm{span}{x^2-16,x-4}$. Where do I go from here to find a possible $T$?



I know that both of these vectors are linearly independent. I've seen similar questions/examples that suggest I "extend this set of vectors to a basis of insert vector space". Here, I imagine it means I need to add another vector to the spanning set so that it forms a basis of $P_2(mathbb R)$, which I believe would be satisfied by $1$ because no linear combination of the vectors in the spanning set can yield a constant.



The aforementioned examples went to say that any possible transformation $T$ should satisfy



$$begin{cases}T(x^2-16)=0\T(x-4)=0\T(1)neq0end{cases}$$



and I see why this should be the case, but I don't know what $T$ is supposed to look like, as I'm only really used to working with transformations $T:mathbb R^mtomathbb R^n$. Would it necessarily be a matrix? and of what dimensions?










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    Hy not just consider $T:Pmapsto P(4)$ ? :-)
    – Nicolas FRANCOIS
    Nov 12 at 17:57













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Find a linear transformation $T:P_2(mathbb R)tomathbb R$, $P_2(mathbb R)$ being the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$, such that $ker T=U$ where $U={P(x)in P_2(mathbb R)mid P(4)=0}$.




A vector $pin P_2(mathbb R)$ could be written as $p=ax^2+bx+c$, so any vector $uin U$ could then be expressed as



$$u=ax^2+bx+(-16a-4b)=a(x^2-16)+b(x-4)$$



Then $uinmathrm{span}{x^2-16,x-4}$. Where do I go from here to find a possible $T$?



I know that both of these vectors are linearly independent. I've seen similar questions/examples that suggest I "extend this set of vectors to a basis of insert vector space". Here, I imagine it means I need to add another vector to the spanning set so that it forms a basis of $P_2(mathbb R)$, which I believe would be satisfied by $1$ because no linear combination of the vectors in the spanning set can yield a constant.



The aforementioned examples went to say that any possible transformation $T$ should satisfy



$$begin{cases}T(x^2-16)=0\T(x-4)=0\T(1)neq0end{cases}$$



and I see why this should be the case, but I don't know what $T$ is supposed to look like, as I'm only really used to working with transformations $T:mathbb R^mtomathbb R^n$. Would it necessarily be a matrix? and of what dimensions?










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Find a linear transformation $T:P_2(mathbb R)tomathbb R$, $P_2(mathbb R)$ being the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$, such that $ker T=U$ where $U={P(x)in P_2(mathbb R)mid P(4)=0}$.




A vector $pin P_2(mathbb R)$ could be written as $p=ax^2+bx+c$, so any vector $uin U$ could then be expressed as



$$u=ax^2+bx+(-16a-4b)=a(x^2-16)+b(x-4)$$



Then $uinmathrm{span}{x^2-16,x-4}$. Where do I go from here to find a possible $T$?



I know that both of these vectors are linearly independent. I've seen similar questions/examples that suggest I "extend this set of vectors to a basis of insert vector space". Here, I imagine it means I need to add another vector to the spanning set so that it forms a basis of $P_2(mathbb R)$, which I believe would be satisfied by $1$ because no linear combination of the vectors in the spanning set can yield a constant.



The aforementioned examples went to say that any possible transformation $T$ should satisfy



$$begin{cases}T(x^2-16)=0\T(x-4)=0\T(1)neq0end{cases}$$



and I see why this should be the case, but I don't know what $T$ is supposed to look like, as I'm only really used to working with transformations $T:mathbb R^mtomathbb R^n$. Would it necessarily be a matrix? and of what dimensions?







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    Hy not just consider $T:Pmapsto P(4)$ ? :-)
    – Nicolas FRANCOIS
    Nov 12 at 17:57














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    Hy not just consider $T:Pmapsto P(4)$ ? :-)
    – Nicolas FRANCOIS
    Nov 12 at 17:57








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Hy not just consider $T:Pmapsto P(4)$ ? :-)
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Hy not just consider $T:Pmapsto P(4)$ ? :-)
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More seriously, your base for $ker(T)$ could be simplified, but whatever.



Complete this family into a base of $mathbb R_2[X]$, by adding the constant polynomial $1$.



You then just have to define $T$ by stating : $T(1)=1$, $T(X-4)=0$ and $T(X^2-16)=0$.



As for every polynomial $P=aX^2+bX+c$, you have
$$P=a(X^2-16)+b(X-4)+c+16a+4b$$
you can check that $T(P)=P(4)$. Bingo !






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    More seriously, your base for $ker(T)$ could be simplified, but whatever.



    Complete this family into a base of $mathbb R_2[X]$, by adding the constant polynomial $1$.



    You then just have to define $T$ by stating : $T(1)=1$, $T(X-4)=0$ and $T(X^2-16)=0$.



    As for every polynomial $P=aX^2+bX+c$, you have
    $$P=a(X^2-16)+b(X-4)+c+16a+4b$$
    you can check that $T(P)=P(4)$. Bingo !






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      down vote



      accepted










      More seriously, your base for $ker(T)$ could be simplified, but whatever.



      Complete this family into a base of $mathbb R_2[X]$, by adding the constant polynomial $1$.



      You then just have to define $T$ by stating : $T(1)=1$, $T(X-4)=0$ and $T(X^2-16)=0$.



      As for every polynomial $P=aX^2+bX+c$, you have
      $$P=a(X^2-16)+b(X-4)+c+16a+4b$$
      you can check that $T(P)=P(4)$. Bingo !






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        up vote
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        More seriously, your base for $ker(T)$ could be simplified, but whatever.



        Complete this family into a base of $mathbb R_2[X]$, by adding the constant polynomial $1$.



        You then just have to define $T$ by stating : $T(1)=1$, $T(X-4)=0$ and $T(X^2-16)=0$.



        As for every polynomial $P=aX^2+bX+c$, you have
        $$P=a(X^2-16)+b(X-4)+c+16a+4b$$
        you can check that $T(P)=P(4)$. Bingo !






        share|cite|improve this answer












        More seriously, your base for $ker(T)$ could be simplified, but whatever.



        Complete this family into a base of $mathbb R_2[X]$, by adding the constant polynomial $1$.



        You then just have to define $T$ by stating : $T(1)=1$, $T(X-4)=0$ and $T(X^2-16)=0$.



        As for every polynomial $P=aX^2+bX+c$, you have
        $$P=a(X^2-16)+b(X-4)+c+16a+4b$$
        you can check that $T(P)=P(4)$. Bingo !







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