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I have two variables: vec{x} and another one which is somehow dual to the first. Therefore I would like to symbolize the second with something similar but a leftarrow on top of the x. I already tried stackrel{leftarrwo}{x} but it looks to different (too big gap between x and the arrow, and too big arrow).



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I have two variables: vec{x} and another one which is somehow dual to the first. Therefore I would like to symbolize the second with something similar but a leftarrow on top of the x. I already tried stackrel{leftarrwo}{x} but it looks to different (too big gap between x and the arrow, and too big arrow).



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I have two variables: vec{x} and another one which is somehow dual to the first. Therefore I would like to symbolize the second with something similar but a leftarrow on top of the x. I already tried stackrel{leftarrwo}{x} but it looks to different (too big gap between x and the arrow, and too big arrow).



Is there a way to define a cev command which does what I want?










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I have two variables: vec{x} and another one which is somehow dual to the first. Therefore I would like to symbolize the second with something similar but a leftarrow on top of the x. I already tried stackrel{leftarrwo}{x} but it looks to different (too big gap between x and the arrow, and too big arrow).



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I just encountered a simple solution: stackoverflow.com/questions/2826471/…
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This may not be the best way, but two reflectbox commands will do the trick:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{graphicx}
newcommand{cev}[1]{reflectbox{ensuremath{vec{reflectbox{ensuremath{#1}}}}}}
begin{document}
[
vec{a} quad cev{a} quad vec{b} quad cev{b}
]
end{document}





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  • Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
    – C-Otto
    May 26 '14 at 7:26












  • In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
    – Ian Thompson
    May 26 '14 at 11:25










  • cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
    – C-Otto
    May 26 '14 at 15:09










  • This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
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A cev command that seems to give good results on most letters and works correctly (apart a very small drift) in subscripts and superscripts.



documentclass{article}
usepackage{graphicx,accents}

makeatletter
DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
mathpalettedo@cev{#1}%
}
newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
fix@cev{#1}{+}%
reflectbox{$m@th#1vec{reflectbox{$fix@cev{#1}{-}m@th#1#2fix@cev{#1}{+}$}}$}%
fix@cev{#1}{-}%
}
newcommand{fix@cev}[2]{%
ifx#1displaystyle
mkern#23mu
else
ifx#1textstyle
mkern#23mu
else
ifx#1scriptstyle
mkern#22mu
else
mkern#22mu
fi
fi
fi
}

makeatother

begin{document}
$Xx$

$Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

$Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

$cev{imath}$

$vec{imath}$
end{document}


enter image description here



A different implementation:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{graphicx}

makeatletter
DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
{mathpalettedo@cev{#1}}%
}
newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
vbox{offinterlineskip
sboxz@{$m@th#1 x$}%
ialign{##cr
hidewidthreflectbox{$m@th#1vec{}mkern4mu$}hidewidthcr
noalign{kern-htz@}
$m@th#1#2$cr
}%
}%
}
makeatother

begin{document}
$Xx$

$Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

$Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

$cev{imath}$

$vec{imath}$

$cev{sigma}cev{x}$
$vec{sigma}vec{x}$
end{document}


enter image description here






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    Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
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  • @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
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  • @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
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  • I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
    – user49915
    Dec 1 at 15:24












  • @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
    – egreg
    Dec 1 at 15:25


















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The extensible overleftarrow might do the trick. The problem is that the arrow is bigger than the one used for vec, as shown by [overleftarrow{a}overrightarrow{a}vec{a}] . To have consistent arrows, you should redefine $vec$ :



documentclass{minimal}
renewcommandvec[1]{overrightarrow{#1}}
newcommandcev[1]{overleftarrow{#1}}

begin{document}
[cev{a}vec{a}]
end{document}


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Another solution is the overset command from amsmath, used with leftarrow. However, the arrow is still bigger than the one from the vec
command.



documentclass{minimal}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
[overset{leftarrow}{v}overset{rightarrow}{v}vec{v}]
end{document}


*Edited to add *
Using shortleftarrow from the stmaryrd package slightly improves the above construction.






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    The vec is an accent (and its own symbol; hence all leftarrow and similar constructs look different), and the default Computer Modern font doesn't have a symbol which would be its mirror.



    In addition to rotating/mirroring the vec accent symbol, as shown by Ian, you could make use of one provided by, say, STIX/XITS (if you use XeTeX).
    Then you could define:



    defcev{XeTeXmathaccent"0"1"20D6}
    % The first number ("0) denotes the math type (0=Ord,1=Op,2=Bin,3=Rel,etc.)
    % The second number ("1) denotes the math family (0=Roman,1=Italic,etc.)
    % The last number ("20D6) denotes the actual glyph slot
    $cev a qquad vec a$


    Which could look like: cevvec






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      I have a little to add to Frederic's solution:



      usepackage{stmaryrd}

      overset{shortleftarrow}{a} quad vec{a} quad overset{{}_{shortleftarrow}}{a}


      Basically, the arrow in the subscript makes it smaller and reduces the vertical space between it and the variable. Unfortunately, nesting doesn't seem to work.



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        This may not be the best way, but two reflectbox commands will do the trick:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}
        newcommand{cev}[1]{reflectbox{ensuremath{vec{reflectbox{ensuremath{#1}}}}}}
        begin{document}
        [
        vec{a} quad cev{a} quad vec{b} quad cev{b}
        ]
        end{document}





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        • Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 7:26












        • In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 26 '14 at 11:25










        • cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 15:09










        • This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 27 '14 at 7:41















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        This may not be the best way, but two reflectbox commands will do the trick:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}
        newcommand{cev}[1]{reflectbox{ensuremath{vec{reflectbox{ensuremath{#1}}}}}}
        begin{document}
        [
        vec{a} quad cev{a} quad vec{b} quad cev{b}
        ]
        end{document}





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        • Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 7:26












        • In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 26 '14 at 11:25










        • cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 15:09










        • This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 27 '14 at 7:41













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        This may not be the best way, but two reflectbox commands will do the trick:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}
        newcommand{cev}[1]{reflectbox{ensuremath{vec{reflectbox{ensuremath{#1}}}}}}
        begin{document}
        [
        vec{a} quad cev{a} quad vec{b} quad cev{b}
        ]
        end{document}





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        This may not be the best way, but two reflectbox commands will do the trick:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}
        newcommand{cev}[1]{reflectbox{ensuremath{vec{reflectbox{ensuremath{#1}}}}}}
        begin{document}
        [
        vec{a} quad cev{a} quad vec{b} quad cev{b}
        ]
        end{document}






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        • Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 7:26












        • In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 26 '14 at 11:25










        • cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 15:09










        • This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 27 '14 at 7:41


















        • Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 7:26












        • In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 26 '14 at 11:25










        • cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
          – C-Otto
          May 26 '14 at 15:09










        • This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
          – Ian Thompson
          May 27 '14 at 7:41
















        Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
        – C-Otto
        May 26 '14 at 7:26






        Thanks, but this causes problems with subscripts: Example On the right hand side the t is marked using cev{t_{mathring{r}}} and s is marked using cev{s}_{mathring{r}} I'd like to have the arrow centered over the whole symbol (including subscript) as it is in the case of t on the left.
        – C-Otto
        May 26 '14 at 7:26














        In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
        – Ian Thompson
        May 26 '14 at 11:25




        In your example, the arrow over the t on the left does not appear to be centred over the whole symbol including the superscript to me. On the other hand, cev{t_{mathring{r}}} seems to give exactly what you want.
        – Ian Thompson
        May 26 '14 at 11:25












        cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
        – C-Otto
        May 26 '14 at 15:09




        cev{t_{mathring{r}}} is shown on the right. And cev{t_r} is shown on the left, where the arrow is a bit more centered than in the case of cev{t}_r. I'm happy with the looks on the left side, but the right side obviously is wrong.
        – C-Otto
        May 26 '14 at 15:09












        This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
        – Ian Thompson
        May 27 '14 at 7:41




        This could be a problem with the font you are using; the result of cev{t_{mathring{r}}} on my machine looks nothing like yours! Please post a new question with a complete example code that reproduces the problem.
        – Ian Thompson
        May 27 '14 at 7:41










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        A cev command that seems to give good results on most letters and works correctly (apart a very small drift) in subscripts and superscripts.



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx,accents}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        mathpalettedo@cev{#1}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        fix@cev{#1}{+}%
        reflectbox{$m@th#1vec{reflectbox{$fix@cev{#1}{-}m@th#1#2fix@cev{#1}{+}$}}$}%
        fix@cev{#1}{-}%
        }
        newcommand{fix@cev}[2]{%
        ifx#1displaystyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1textstyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1scriptstyle
        mkern#22mu
        else
        mkern#22mu
        fi
        fi
        fi
        }

        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here



        A different implementation:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        {mathpalettedo@cev{#1}}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        vbox{offinterlineskip
        sboxz@{$m@th#1 x$}%
        ialign{##cr
        hidewidthreflectbox{$m@th#1vec{}mkern4mu$}hidewidthcr
        noalign{kern-htz@}
        $m@th#1#2$cr
        }%
        }%
        }
        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$

        $cev{sigma}cev{x}$
        $vec{sigma}vec{x}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here






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          Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
          – Qrrbrbirlbel
          May 17 '15 at 0:21










        • @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
          – egreg
          May 17 '15 at 9:13










        • @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:09










        • I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
          – user49915
          Dec 1 at 15:24












        • @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:25















        up vote
        10
        down vote













        A cev command that seems to give good results on most letters and works correctly (apart a very small drift) in subscripts and superscripts.



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx,accents}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        mathpalettedo@cev{#1}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        fix@cev{#1}{+}%
        reflectbox{$m@th#1vec{reflectbox{$fix@cev{#1}{-}m@th#1#2fix@cev{#1}{+}$}}$}%
        fix@cev{#1}{-}%
        }
        newcommand{fix@cev}[2]{%
        ifx#1displaystyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1textstyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1scriptstyle
        mkern#22mu
        else
        mkern#22mu
        fi
        fi
        fi
        }

        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here



        A different implementation:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        {mathpalettedo@cev{#1}}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        vbox{offinterlineskip
        sboxz@{$m@th#1 x$}%
        ialign{##cr
        hidewidthreflectbox{$m@th#1vec{}mkern4mu$}hidewidthcr
        noalign{kern-htz@}
        $m@th#1#2$cr
        }%
        }%
        }
        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$

        $cev{sigma}cev{x}$
        $vec{sigma}vec{x}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here






        share|improve this answer



















        • 2




          Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
          – Qrrbrbirlbel
          May 17 '15 at 0:21










        • @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
          – egreg
          May 17 '15 at 9:13










        • @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:09










        • I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
          – user49915
          Dec 1 at 15:24












        • @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:25













        up vote
        10
        down vote










        up vote
        10
        down vote









        A cev command that seems to give good results on most letters and works correctly (apart a very small drift) in subscripts and superscripts.



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx,accents}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        mathpalettedo@cev{#1}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        fix@cev{#1}{+}%
        reflectbox{$m@th#1vec{reflectbox{$fix@cev{#1}{-}m@th#1#2fix@cev{#1}{+}$}}$}%
        fix@cev{#1}{-}%
        }
        newcommand{fix@cev}[2]{%
        ifx#1displaystyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1textstyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1scriptstyle
        mkern#22mu
        else
        mkern#22mu
        fi
        fi
        fi
        }

        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here



        A different implementation:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        {mathpalettedo@cev{#1}}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        vbox{offinterlineskip
        sboxz@{$m@th#1 x$}%
        ialign{##cr
        hidewidthreflectbox{$m@th#1vec{}mkern4mu$}hidewidthcr
        noalign{kern-htz@}
        $m@th#1#2$cr
        }%
        }%
        }
        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$

        $cev{sigma}cev{x}$
        $vec{sigma}vec{x}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here






        share|improve this answer














        A cev command that seems to give good results on most letters and works correctly (apart a very small drift) in subscripts and superscripts.



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx,accents}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        mathpalettedo@cev{#1}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        fix@cev{#1}{+}%
        reflectbox{$m@th#1vec{reflectbox{$fix@cev{#1}{-}m@th#1#2fix@cev{#1}{+}$}}$}%
        fix@cev{#1}{-}%
        }
        newcommand{fix@cev}[2]{%
        ifx#1displaystyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1textstyle
        mkern#23mu
        else
        ifx#1scriptstyle
        mkern#22mu
        else
        mkern#22mu
        fi
        fi
        fi
        }

        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here



        A different implementation:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{graphicx}

        makeatletter
        DeclareRobustCommand{cev}[1]{%
        {mathpalettedo@cev{#1}}%
        }
        newcommand{do@cev}[2]{%
        vbox{offinterlineskip
        sboxz@{$m@th#1 x$}%
        ialign{##cr
        hidewidthreflectbox{$m@th#1vec{}mkern4mu$}hidewidthcr
        noalign{kern-htz@}
        $m@th#1#2$cr
        }%
        }%
        }
        makeatother

        begin{document}
        $Xx$

        $Xcev{x}_{cev{x}_{cev{x}}}$ $cev{a}cev{b}cev{m}cev{X}$

        $Xvec{x}_{vec{x}_{vec{x}}}$ $vec{a}vec{b}vec{m}vec{X}$

        $cev{imath}$

        $vec{imath}$

        $cev{sigma}cev{x}$
        $vec{sigma}vec{x}$
        end{document}


        enter image description here







        share|improve this answer














        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer








        edited Dec 1 at 15:25

























        answered May 16 '15 at 23:12









        egreg

        703k8618733148




        703k8618733148








        • 2




          Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
          – Qrrbrbirlbel
          May 17 '15 at 0:21










        • @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
          – egreg
          May 17 '15 at 9:13










        • @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:09










        • I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
          – user49915
          Dec 1 at 15:24












        • @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:25














        • 2




          Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
          – Qrrbrbirlbel
          May 17 '15 at 0:21










        • @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
          – egreg
          May 17 '15 at 9:13










        • @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:09










        • I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
          – user49915
          Dec 1 at 15:24












        • @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
          – egreg
          Dec 1 at 15:25








        2




        2




        Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
        – Qrrbrbirlbel
        May 17 '15 at 0:21




        Can the arrow be rotated instead of reflected to have the correct slanting? Now, the cev arrow slants to the left, while the vec arrow (as well as the italic letter) slants to the right.
        – Qrrbrbirlbel
        May 17 '15 at 0:21












        @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
        – egreg
        May 17 '15 at 9:13




        @Qrrbrbirlbel That's more difficult.
        – egreg
        May 17 '15 at 9:13












        @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
        – egreg
        Dec 1 at 15:09




        @user49915 I get picture (click), which doesn't show so big a difference with cev{x}
        – egreg
        Dec 1 at 15:09












        I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
        – user49915
        Dec 1 at 15:24






        I apologize and removed my prior comment, which was misleading. With default CM fonts, yours (cev{sigma}) is ok. It gets ugly when you use usepackage[slantedGreek]{newtxmath} or usepackage{newtxmath}. In this situation, (cev{sigma}) produces the leftarrow that is shifted too much to the right. Is there a way to center the left arrow above the symbol automatically?
        – user49915
        Dec 1 at 15:24














        @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
        – egreg
        Dec 1 at 15:25




        @user49915 Maybe you want to try the different implementation I added, maybe fixing the amount of mkern.
        – egreg
        Dec 1 at 15:25










        up vote
        7
        down vote













        The extensible overleftarrow might do the trick. The problem is that the arrow is bigger than the one used for vec, as shown by [overleftarrow{a}overrightarrow{a}vec{a}] . To have consistent arrows, you should redefine $vec$ :



        documentclass{minimal}
        renewcommandvec[1]{overrightarrow{#1}}
        newcommandcev[1]{overleftarrow{#1}}

        begin{document}
        [cev{a}vec{a}]
        end{document}


        Edited to add:



        Another solution is the overset command from amsmath, used with leftarrow. However, the arrow is still bigger than the one from the vec
        command.



        documentclass{minimal}
        usepackage{amsmath}
        begin{document}
        [overset{leftarrow}{v}overset{rightarrow}{v}vec{v}]
        end{document}


        *Edited to add *
        Using shortleftarrow from the stmaryrd package slightly improves the above construction.






        share|improve this answer



























          up vote
          7
          down vote













          The extensible overleftarrow might do the trick. The problem is that the arrow is bigger than the one used for vec, as shown by [overleftarrow{a}overrightarrow{a}vec{a}] . To have consistent arrows, you should redefine $vec$ :



          documentclass{minimal}
          renewcommandvec[1]{overrightarrow{#1}}
          newcommandcev[1]{overleftarrow{#1}}

          begin{document}
          [cev{a}vec{a}]
          end{document}


          Edited to add:



          Another solution is the overset command from amsmath, used with leftarrow. However, the arrow is still bigger than the one from the vec
          command.



          documentclass{minimal}
          usepackage{amsmath}
          begin{document}
          [overset{leftarrow}{v}overset{rightarrow}{v}vec{v}]
          end{document}


          *Edited to add *
          Using shortleftarrow from the stmaryrd package slightly improves the above construction.






          share|improve this answer

























            up vote
            7
            down vote










            up vote
            7
            down vote









            The extensible overleftarrow might do the trick. The problem is that the arrow is bigger than the one used for vec, as shown by [overleftarrow{a}overrightarrow{a}vec{a}] . To have consistent arrows, you should redefine $vec$ :



            documentclass{minimal}
            renewcommandvec[1]{overrightarrow{#1}}
            newcommandcev[1]{overleftarrow{#1}}

            begin{document}
            [cev{a}vec{a}]
            end{document}


            Edited to add:



            Another solution is the overset command from amsmath, used with leftarrow. However, the arrow is still bigger than the one from the vec
            command.



            documentclass{minimal}
            usepackage{amsmath}
            begin{document}
            [overset{leftarrow}{v}overset{rightarrow}{v}vec{v}]
            end{document}


            *Edited to add *
            Using shortleftarrow from the stmaryrd package slightly improves the above construction.






            share|improve this answer














            The extensible overleftarrow might do the trick. The problem is that the arrow is bigger than the one used for vec, as shown by [overleftarrow{a}overrightarrow{a}vec{a}] . To have consistent arrows, you should redefine $vec$ :



            documentclass{minimal}
            renewcommandvec[1]{overrightarrow{#1}}
            newcommandcev[1]{overleftarrow{#1}}

            begin{document}
            [cev{a}vec{a}]
            end{document}


            Edited to add:



            Another solution is the overset command from amsmath, used with leftarrow. However, the arrow is still bigger than the one from the vec
            command.



            documentclass{minimal}
            usepackage{amsmath}
            begin{document}
            [overset{leftarrow}{v}overset{rightarrow}{v}vec{v}]
            end{document}


            *Edited to add *
            Using shortleftarrow from the stmaryrd package slightly improves the above construction.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Oct 19 '11 at 20:55









            egreg

            703k8618733148




            703k8618733148










            answered Apr 5 '11 at 13:56









            Frédéric Grosshans

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            684517






















                up vote
                6
                down vote













                The vec is an accent (and its own symbol; hence all leftarrow and similar constructs look different), and the default Computer Modern font doesn't have a symbol which would be its mirror.



                In addition to rotating/mirroring the vec accent symbol, as shown by Ian, you could make use of one provided by, say, STIX/XITS (if you use XeTeX).
                Then you could define:



                defcev{XeTeXmathaccent"0"1"20D6}
                % The first number ("0) denotes the math type (0=Ord,1=Op,2=Bin,3=Rel,etc.)
                % The second number ("1) denotes the math family (0=Roman,1=Italic,etc.)
                % The last number ("20D6) denotes the actual glyph slot
                $cev a qquad vec a$


                Which could look like: cevvec






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                  up vote
                  6
                  down vote













                  The vec is an accent (and its own symbol; hence all leftarrow and similar constructs look different), and the default Computer Modern font doesn't have a symbol which would be its mirror.



                  In addition to rotating/mirroring the vec accent symbol, as shown by Ian, you could make use of one provided by, say, STIX/XITS (if you use XeTeX).
                  Then you could define:



                  defcev{XeTeXmathaccent"0"1"20D6}
                  % The first number ("0) denotes the math type (0=Ord,1=Op,2=Bin,3=Rel,etc.)
                  % The second number ("1) denotes the math family (0=Roman,1=Italic,etc.)
                  % The last number ("20D6) denotes the actual glyph slot
                  $cev a qquad vec a$


                  Which could look like: cevvec






                  share|improve this answer

























                    up vote
                    6
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    6
                    down vote









                    The vec is an accent (and its own symbol; hence all leftarrow and similar constructs look different), and the default Computer Modern font doesn't have a symbol which would be its mirror.



                    In addition to rotating/mirroring the vec accent symbol, as shown by Ian, you could make use of one provided by, say, STIX/XITS (if you use XeTeX).
                    Then you could define:



                    defcev{XeTeXmathaccent"0"1"20D6}
                    % The first number ("0) denotes the math type (0=Ord,1=Op,2=Bin,3=Rel,etc.)
                    % The second number ("1) denotes the math family (0=Roman,1=Italic,etc.)
                    % The last number ("20D6) denotes the actual glyph slot
                    $cev a qquad vec a$


                    Which could look like: cevvec






                    share|improve this answer














                    The vec is an accent (and its own symbol; hence all leftarrow and similar constructs look different), and the default Computer Modern font doesn't have a symbol which would be its mirror.



                    In addition to rotating/mirroring the vec accent symbol, as shown by Ian, you could make use of one provided by, say, STIX/XITS (if you use XeTeX).
                    Then you could define:



                    defcev{XeTeXmathaccent"0"1"20D6}
                    % The first number ("0) denotes the math type (0=Ord,1=Op,2=Bin,3=Rel,etc.)
                    % The second number ("1) denotes the math family (0=Roman,1=Italic,etc.)
                    % The last number ("20D6) denotes the actual glyph slot
                    $cev a qquad vec a$


                    Which could look like: cevvec







                    share|improve this answer














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                    edited Apr 6 '11 at 18:47

























                    answered Apr 6 '11 at 18:26









                    morbusg

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                        up vote
                        2
                        down vote













                        I have a little to add to Frederic's solution:



                        usepackage{stmaryrd}

                        overset{shortleftarrow}{a} quad vec{a} quad overset{{}_{shortleftarrow}}{a}


                        Basically, the arrow in the subscript makes it smaller and reduces the vertical space between it and the variable. Unfortunately, nesting doesn't seem to work.



                        enter image description here






                        share|improve this answer



























                          up vote
                          2
                          down vote













                          I have a little to add to Frederic's solution:



                          usepackage{stmaryrd}

                          overset{shortleftarrow}{a} quad vec{a} quad overset{{}_{shortleftarrow}}{a}


                          Basically, the arrow in the subscript makes it smaller and reduces the vertical space between it and the variable. Unfortunately, nesting doesn't seem to work.



                          enter image description here






                          share|improve this answer

























                            up vote
                            2
                            down vote










                            up vote
                            2
                            down vote









                            I have a little to add to Frederic's solution:



                            usepackage{stmaryrd}

                            overset{shortleftarrow}{a} quad vec{a} quad overset{{}_{shortleftarrow}}{a}


                            Basically, the arrow in the subscript makes it smaller and reduces the vertical space between it and the variable. Unfortunately, nesting doesn't seem to work.



                            enter image description here






                            share|improve this answer














                            I have a little to add to Frederic's solution:



                            usepackage{stmaryrd}

                            overset{shortleftarrow}{a} quad vec{a} quad overset{{}_{shortleftarrow}}{a}


                            Basically, the arrow in the subscript makes it smaller and reduces the vertical space between it and the variable. Unfortunately, nesting doesn't seem to work.



                            enter image description here







                            share|improve this answer














                            share|improve this answer



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