Expected value when involving intangible factors











up vote
0
down vote

favorite












Rebecca and James play the following game. James pays her 1.50 for her to roll two dice. If the sum of these two dice is exactly 6, then she will pay him of 10.50 and return him the cost of 1.50 he paid her to roll the dice. Otherwise, Rebecca will keep the 1.50. At this point the expected value is easy: One just take $$frac{31}{35} times (-1.5)+frac{5}{36}times 10.5=frac{1}{6}$$



However the question now ask, if intangible factors are included in "expectation", and say that : Before betting James only has 1.50, which he needs to take a train home. If he has to walk home, the unhappiness is equivalent to losing 15 cents.



Now I am a bit confused with this addition. Should I just naively use $frac{1}{6} - 0.15$ or do I need to consider his loss as $-1.5-0.15 = -1.65$?










share|cite|improve this question






















  • The second one, since he only is unhappy if he looses his dollar-fifty. By the way it would be easier to understand your work if you stated what you were taking the expectation of. For example it would help to define $X$ as the earnings of James (not the earnings of Rebecca), and then you are computing $E[X]$. So then $X = -1.5-.15$ if James looses, and $X=10.5$ if he wins.
    – Michael
    Nov 16 at 17:43

















up vote
0
down vote

favorite












Rebecca and James play the following game. James pays her 1.50 for her to roll two dice. If the sum of these two dice is exactly 6, then she will pay him of 10.50 and return him the cost of 1.50 he paid her to roll the dice. Otherwise, Rebecca will keep the 1.50. At this point the expected value is easy: One just take $$frac{31}{35} times (-1.5)+frac{5}{36}times 10.5=frac{1}{6}$$



However the question now ask, if intangible factors are included in "expectation", and say that : Before betting James only has 1.50, which he needs to take a train home. If he has to walk home, the unhappiness is equivalent to losing 15 cents.



Now I am a bit confused with this addition. Should I just naively use $frac{1}{6} - 0.15$ or do I need to consider his loss as $-1.5-0.15 = -1.65$?










share|cite|improve this question






















  • The second one, since he only is unhappy if he looses his dollar-fifty. By the way it would be easier to understand your work if you stated what you were taking the expectation of. For example it would help to define $X$ as the earnings of James (not the earnings of Rebecca), and then you are computing $E[X]$. So then $X = -1.5-.15$ if James looses, and $X=10.5$ if he wins.
    – Michael
    Nov 16 at 17:43















up vote
0
down vote

favorite









up vote
0
down vote

favorite











Rebecca and James play the following game. James pays her 1.50 for her to roll two dice. If the sum of these two dice is exactly 6, then she will pay him of 10.50 and return him the cost of 1.50 he paid her to roll the dice. Otherwise, Rebecca will keep the 1.50. At this point the expected value is easy: One just take $$frac{31}{35} times (-1.5)+frac{5}{36}times 10.5=frac{1}{6}$$



However the question now ask, if intangible factors are included in "expectation", and say that : Before betting James only has 1.50, which he needs to take a train home. If he has to walk home, the unhappiness is equivalent to losing 15 cents.



Now I am a bit confused with this addition. Should I just naively use $frac{1}{6} - 0.15$ or do I need to consider his loss as $-1.5-0.15 = -1.65$?










share|cite|improve this question













Rebecca and James play the following game. James pays her 1.50 for her to roll two dice. If the sum of these two dice is exactly 6, then she will pay him of 10.50 and return him the cost of 1.50 he paid her to roll the dice. Otherwise, Rebecca will keep the 1.50. At this point the expected value is easy: One just take $$frac{31}{35} times (-1.5)+frac{5}{36}times 10.5=frac{1}{6}$$



However the question now ask, if intangible factors are included in "expectation", and say that : Before betting James only has 1.50, which he needs to take a train home. If he has to walk home, the unhappiness is equivalent to losing 15 cents.



Now I am a bit confused with this addition. Should I just naively use $frac{1}{6} - 0.15$ or do I need to consider his loss as $-1.5-0.15 = -1.65$?







probability expected-value






share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Nov 16 at 17:12









ilovewt

932517




932517












  • The second one, since he only is unhappy if he looses his dollar-fifty. By the way it would be easier to understand your work if you stated what you were taking the expectation of. For example it would help to define $X$ as the earnings of James (not the earnings of Rebecca), and then you are computing $E[X]$. So then $X = -1.5-.15$ if James looses, and $X=10.5$ if he wins.
    – Michael
    Nov 16 at 17:43




















  • The second one, since he only is unhappy if he looses his dollar-fifty. By the way it would be easier to understand your work if you stated what you were taking the expectation of. For example it would help to define $X$ as the earnings of James (not the earnings of Rebecca), and then you are computing $E[X]$. So then $X = -1.5-.15$ if James looses, and $X=10.5$ if he wins.
    – Michael
    Nov 16 at 17:43


















The second one, since he only is unhappy if he looses his dollar-fifty. By the way it would be easier to understand your work if you stated what you were taking the expectation of. For example it would help to define $X$ as the earnings of James (not the earnings of Rebecca), and then you are computing $E[X]$. So then $X = -1.5-.15$ if James looses, and $X=10.5$ if he wins.
– Michael
Nov 16 at 17:43






The second one, since he only is unhappy if he looses his dollar-fifty. By the way it would be easier to understand your work if you stated what you were taking the expectation of. For example it would help to define $X$ as the earnings of James (not the earnings of Rebecca), and then you are computing $E[X]$. So then $X = -1.5-.15$ if James looses, and $X=10.5$ if he wins.
– Michael
Nov 16 at 17:43

















active

oldest

votes











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3001382%2fexpected-value-when-involving-intangible-factors%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown






























active

oldest

votes













active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes
















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3001382%2fexpected-value-when-involving-intangible-factors%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Biblatex bibliography style without URLs when DOI exists (in Overleaf with Zotero bibliography)

ComboBox Display Member on multiple fields

Is it possible to collect Nectar points via Trainline?