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try, without L Hopital



$$lim _{xto :y}left(frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}right)=y^nleft(n+1right)$$
try using simple algebra, can not be derived, using only alegebraic tricks.







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Can you use the derivative of $x^{n+1}$ or you are trying to deduce the derivative?
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$$lim_{x to y} frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}= lim_{x to y}( x^n+x^{n-1}y+x^{n-2}y^2+cdots+y^{n})$$ $$hspace{2cm}=y^{n}+y^{n}+cdots+y^{n}=(n+1)y^{n}$$






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Make life easier : let $x=y+t$ to make
$$lim _{xto y}left(frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}right)=lim _{tto 0}left(frac{(y+t)^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{t}right)$$ and use the binomial theeorem or Taylor series since
$$(y+t)^{n+1}=y^{n+1}+(n+1) t y^n+frac{1}{2} n (n+1) t^2 y^{n-1}+Oleft(t^3right)$$






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    Using
    $$frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} = sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k}$$
    then
    begin{align}
    lim_{x to y} , frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} &= lim_{x to y} sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k} \
    &= sum_{k=0}^{n} y^n hspace{5mm} text{sum of $n+1$ terms} \
    &= (n+1) , y^n.
    end{align}






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      Let
      $$ t=x-y $$



      $$ Rightarrow
      lim_{xrightarrow y} = lim_{trightarrow 0} $$



      Now,



      $$ left(xright)^{n+1} =left[left(x-yright)+yright]^{n+1}
      =left(t+yright)^{n+1} $$



      Expanding using Binomial theorem,
      $$ left(t+yright)^{n+1} = c_0^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n+1} + c_1^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n+1}y^{0 } $$



      $$ Rightarrow left(t+yright)^{n+1} = y^{n+1}+ tleft[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} +
      cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$

      Rearranging,
      $$ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} = c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } $$



      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$



      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$
      Substitute the value of t,
      $$ Rightarrow lim_{xrightarrow y} left[ frac{ x^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {x-y} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$



      Hence proved!






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      $$lim_{x to y} frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}= lim_{x to y}( x^n+x^{n-1}y+x^{n-2}y^2+cdots+y^{n})$$ $$hspace{2cm}=y^{n}+y^{n}+cdots+y^{n}=(n+1)y^{n}$$






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      $$lim_{x to y} frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}= lim_{x to y}( x^n+x^{n-1}y+x^{n-2}y^2+cdots+y^{n})$$ $$hspace{2cm}=y^{n}+y^{n}+cdots+y^{n}=(n+1)y^{n}$$






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      $$lim_{x to y} frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}= lim_{x to y}( x^n+x^{n-1}y+x^{n-2}y^2+cdots+y^{n})$$ $$hspace{2cm}=y^{n}+y^{n}+cdots+y^{n}=(n+1)y^{n}$$






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      $$lim_{x to y} frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}= lim_{x to y}( x^n+x^{n-1}y+x^{n-2}y^2+cdots+y^{n})$$ $$hspace{2cm}=y^{n}+y^{n}+cdots+y^{n}=(n+1)y^{n}$$







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      Make life easier : let $x=y+t$ to make
      $$lim _{xto y}left(frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}right)=lim _{tto 0}left(frac{(y+t)^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{t}right)$$ and use the binomial theeorem or Taylor series since
      $$(y+t)^{n+1}=y^{n+1}+(n+1) t y^n+frac{1}{2} n (n+1) t^2 y^{n-1}+Oleft(t^3right)$$






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        Make life easier : let $x=y+t$ to make
        $$lim _{xto y}left(frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}right)=lim _{tto 0}left(frac{(y+t)^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{t}right)$$ and use the binomial theeorem or Taylor series since
        $$(y+t)^{n+1}=y^{n+1}+(n+1) t y^n+frac{1}{2} n (n+1) t^2 y^{n-1}+Oleft(t^3right)$$






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          Make life easier : let $x=y+t$ to make
          $$lim _{xto y}left(frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}right)=lim _{tto 0}left(frac{(y+t)^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{t}right)$$ and use the binomial theeorem or Taylor series since
          $$(y+t)^{n+1}=y^{n+1}+(n+1) t y^n+frac{1}{2} n (n+1) t^2 y^{n-1}+Oleft(t^3right)$$






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          $$lim _{xto y}left(frac{x^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{x-y}right)=lim _{tto 0}left(frac{(y+t)^{n+1}-y^{n+1}}{t}right)$$ and use the binomial theeorem or Taylor series since
          $$(y+t)^{n+1}=y^{n+1}+(n+1) t y^n+frac{1}{2} n (n+1) t^2 y^{n-1}+Oleft(t^3right)$$







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              Using
              $$frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} = sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k}$$
              then
              begin{align}
              lim_{x to y} , frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} &= lim_{x to y} sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k} \
              &= sum_{k=0}^{n} y^n hspace{5mm} text{sum of $n+1$ terms} \
              &= (n+1) , y^n.
              end{align}






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                Using
                $$frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} = sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k}$$
                then
                begin{align}
                lim_{x to y} , frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} &= lim_{x to y} sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k} \
                &= sum_{k=0}^{n} y^n hspace{5mm} text{sum of $n+1$ terms} \
                &= (n+1) , y^n.
                end{align}






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                  Using
                  $$frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} = sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k}$$
                  then
                  begin{align}
                  lim_{x to y} , frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} &= lim_{x to y} sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k} \
                  &= sum_{k=0}^{n} y^n hspace{5mm} text{sum of $n+1$ terms} \
                  &= (n+1) , y^n.
                  end{align}






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                  Using
                  $$frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} = sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k}$$
                  then
                  begin{align}
                  lim_{x to y} , frac{x^{n+1} - y^{n+1}}{x-y} &= lim_{x to y} sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{n-k} , y^{k} \
                  &= sum_{k=0}^{n} y^n hspace{5mm} text{sum of $n+1$ terms} \
                  &= (n+1) , y^n.
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                      Let
                      $$ t=x-y $$



                      $$ Rightarrow
                      lim_{xrightarrow y} = lim_{trightarrow 0} $$



                      Now,



                      $$ left(xright)^{n+1} =left[left(x-yright)+yright]^{n+1}
                      =left(t+yright)^{n+1} $$



                      Expanding using Binomial theorem,
                      $$ left(t+yright)^{n+1} = c_0^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n+1} + c_1^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n+1}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow left(t+yright)^{n+1} = y^{n+1}+ tleft[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} +
                      cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$

                      Rearranging,
                      $$ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} = c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$
                      Substitute the value of t,
                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{xrightarrow y} left[ frac{ x^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {x-y} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$



                      Hence proved!






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                      Let
                      $$ t=x-y $$



                      $$ Rightarrow
                      lim_{xrightarrow y} = lim_{trightarrow 0} $$



                      Now,



                      $$ left(xright)^{n+1} =left[left(x-yright)+yright]^{n+1}
                      =left(t+yright)^{n+1} $$



                      Expanding using Binomial theorem,
                      $$ left(t+yright)^{n+1} = c_0^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n+1} + c_1^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n+1}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow left(t+yright)^{n+1} = y^{n+1}+ tleft[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} +
                      cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$

                      Rearranging,
                      $$ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} = c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$
                      Substitute the value of t,
                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{xrightarrow y} left[ frac{ x^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {x-y} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$



                      Hence proved!






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                      • I know @Claude Leibovici has posted this answer before me but still I have posted this as I had started working on the question before any answer was posted, it took my time!
                        – Jalaj Chaturvedi
                        Nov 15 at 5:15










                      • thanks for your time
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                        Nov 15 at 21:58













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                      Let
                      $$ t=x-y $$



                      $$ Rightarrow
                      lim_{xrightarrow y} = lim_{trightarrow 0} $$



                      Now,



                      $$ left(xright)^{n+1} =left[left(x-yright)+yright]^{n+1}
                      =left(t+yright)^{n+1} $$



                      Expanding using Binomial theorem,
                      $$ left(t+yright)^{n+1} = c_0^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n+1} + c_1^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n+1}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow left(t+yright)^{n+1} = y^{n+1}+ tleft[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} +
                      cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$

                      Rearranging,
                      $$ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} = c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$
                      Substitute the value of t,
                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{xrightarrow y} left[ frac{ x^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {x-y} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$



                      Hence proved!






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                      Let
                      $$ t=x-y $$



                      $$ Rightarrow
                      lim_{xrightarrow y} = lim_{trightarrow 0} $$



                      Now,



                      $$ left(xright)^{n+1} =left[left(x-yright)+yright]^{n+1}
                      =left(t+yright)^{n+1} $$



                      Expanding using Binomial theorem,
                      $$ left(t+yright)^{n+1} = c_0^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n+1} + c_1^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n+1}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow left(t+yright)^{n+1} = y^{n+1}+ tleft[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} +
                      cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$

                      Rearranging,
                      $$ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} = c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ c_1^{n+1}t^{0}y^{n} + c_2^{n+1}t^{1}y^{n-1} + cdots + c_{n+1}^{n+1}t^{n}y^{0 } right] $$



                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{trightarrow 0} left[ frac{ left(t+yright)^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {t} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$
                      Substitute the value of t,
                      $$ Rightarrow lim_{xrightarrow y} left[ frac{ x^{n+1} - y^{n+1} } {x-y} right] = left(n+1right)y^{n} $$



                      Hence proved!







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                      • I know @Claude Leibovici has posted this answer before me but still I have posted this as I had started working on the question before any answer was posted, it took my time!
                        – Jalaj Chaturvedi
                        Nov 15 at 5:15










                      • thanks for your time
                        – Jaime Pérez
                        Nov 15 at 21:58


















                      • I know @Claude Leibovici has posted this answer before me but still I have posted this as I had started working on the question before any answer was posted, it took my time!
                        – Jalaj Chaturvedi
                        Nov 15 at 5:15










                      • thanks for your time
                        – Jaime Pérez
                        Nov 15 at 21:58
















                      I know @Claude Leibovici has posted this answer before me but still I have posted this as I had started working on the question before any answer was posted, it took my time!
                      – Jalaj Chaturvedi
                      Nov 15 at 5:15




                      I know @Claude Leibovici has posted this answer before me but still I have posted this as I had started working on the question before any answer was posted, it took my time!
                      – Jalaj Chaturvedi
                      Nov 15 at 5:15












                      thanks for your time
                      – Jaime Pérez
                      Nov 15 at 21:58




                      thanks for your time
                      – Jaime Pérez
                      Nov 15 at 21:58


















                       

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