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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/secondtodieinsurance.asp

What is Second-To-Die Insurance

Second-to-die insurance is a type of life insurance on two people (usually married) that provides benefits to the beneficiaries only after the last surviving person on the policy dies. This differs from regular life insurance in that the surviving partner doesn't receive any benefits after the spouse dies. Thus, second-to-die insurance is used for estate planning

The product is called "second to die," as mentioned in RonJohn’s answer, or "survivorship life," as you saw. I think you’ll find that the premiums for 2nd to die aren’t enough cheaper to make it the right choice for you. Especially considering that you would either continue to pay the premium after the first spouse dies or pay a higher initial premium if a rider is available to waive the premiums after the first death.

Probably your best option, especially if you are focused on term insurance, is to choose an amount that would provide for your dependents and split that amount of term insurance between the two of you. This offers a few benefits:

• The premium after the first death would be smaller and could be dropped entirely if the insurance needs are covered by savings up to that future date and the proceeds of the first policy.


• If you considered the impact of one spouse's death upon the other's ability to reach education, retirement, or other goals, you’d probably find there was at least some need that the smaller amounts of separate term insurance could cover. Your ability to save for those goals would likely be reduced on the death of one of you.

I'm going to frame challenge and say:

Even though it exists, don't do it

Get a regular 20 year term policy on each of you. There are several things you aren't considering. As others have said, what if one of you survives the car crash but the other is seriously injured and unable to work for a long time? What if one of you is in a car crash with your child and dies but your child survives and has major injuries requiring constant care for months or years afterwards? Even if nothing major like that happens, wouldn't you want to know that your spouse is in very good shape financially in the event of your death? She could pay off the house instantly and have a major stress gone from her life at a time when a lot of other stress has been added.

The $25 a month is worth it.

As other's have mentioned in some jurisdictions this type of product is called second to die insurance. Alternatively it is called a Joint Life Second Death (JLSD) policy.

The premium for such a product will typically be smaller than a Single Life policy or a Joint Life First Death (JLFD) policy of the same duration, but it depends on how your insurance company structures the premium.

Typically these types of polices are taken out as Whole of Life (WoL or WL) policies (at least where I am located UL (Universal Life) is not a product sold on the market). Whether or not a term or WoL product is more appropriate for you is something you would need to consider.

You may also want to take out accident insurance or Permanent Disability Insurance (TPD) to mitigate against the situation where one of you survives but can't provide for your children.

You can also take out a policy that pays out twice, once for each life. These types of policy are called Dual Life (typically). They should (in general) be equivalent to a JLFD policy and a JLSD policy added together (though two separate policies may be slightly higher due to having to account for setting up two policies instead of one).

It is also possible to get deferred versions of these polices, which defer the start date of the policy to some point in the future.

Finally, you can get Unit Linked (investment style policies) and With Profits (aggregated investment type policies) which can augment the payout (but carry some investment risk as well).

As with anything potentially this complicated it is worth getting professional financial advice on.

Now that you know the policy you seek does exist, the best advice I can give you is to shop around a bit. If the amount of total insurance you want upon both of your deaths is X, then you should get quotes for:

1. Term policy for X on just your wife.


2. Term policy for X on just you.


3. Term policy for X/2 on both of you. (Or any other division that makes sense.)


4. Term policy for X on second-to-die for both. (It looks like term joint policies do exist, though I suspect not all companies offer them.)

All of the above will accomplish your goal.

My guess is that #3 will be more expensive than either 1 or 2 and will be quickly ruled out. I agree with you that 4 should be cheaper than the other options, and maybe it will be for companies that offer that type of policy. But it's also entirely possible that another company that doesn't offer joint policies has a better price on 1 or 2 than the best joint policy you can find, so obtaining multiple quotes from different companies is key. I believe the price of second-to-die policies will be highly dependent on the price differential between 1 and 2. For example, if one of you is much more likely to die sooner than the other (due to age, health, or occupation), than it makes sense that the second-to-die policy may be pretty close to the same price as that of the healthier individual policy.

Please don't hesitate to report back your findings. It would be interesting to see what the discount on second-to-die policies is in your case.

Personally I believe you both need a policy incase on passes away and the other cannot work due to some sort of disability. The policy I would get would be a term T100 to cover final burial costs and potential probate fees with a term rider to cover living expenses and debt for the child. I would put a second term rider to cover the surviving parent with funds to.cover living expenses until age 80. Now the terms would depend on survivor and child's age. It's amount of insurance would also take into account potential growth if invested conservatively with withdrawals to cover needs. Also inflation factor should be taken into account

Complex yes but that's what your financial advisor is for. He/she gets paid well to figure this out for you.