Select two best classifier using F1-score,Recall and precision












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I have three classifiers that classify same dataset with these results:



classifier A:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.36 0.36 0.36
macro avg 0.38 0.43 0.36
weighted avg 0.36 0.36 0.32

classifier B:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.55 0.55 0.55
macro avg 0.60 0.60 0.56
weighted avg 0.61 0.55 0.53

classifier C:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.34 0.34 0.34
macro avg 0.36 0.38 0.32
weighted avg 0.39 0.34 0.32


I want two select two best of them, and I know F1-score is a parameter for compare the classifiers because of its harmony between precision and recall.
So, at first I select classifier B for its best F1-score. for next, both A and C have a same F1-measure,
I want to ask how can I select between them?










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  • Why is accuracy not the best measure for assessing classification models? Everything in that thread applies equally to F1, recall and precision. See also Classification probability threshold.
    – Stephan Kolassa
    Dec 28 '18 at 13:31
















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I have three classifiers that classify same dataset with these results:



classifier A:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.36 0.36 0.36
macro avg 0.38 0.43 0.36
weighted avg 0.36 0.36 0.32

classifier B:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.55 0.55 0.55
macro avg 0.60 0.60 0.56
weighted avg 0.61 0.55 0.53

classifier C:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.34 0.34 0.34
macro avg 0.36 0.38 0.32
weighted avg 0.39 0.34 0.32


I want two select two best of them, and I know F1-score is a parameter for compare the classifiers because of its harmony between precision and recall.
So, at first I select classifier B for its best F1-score. for next, both A and C have a same F1-measure,
I want to ask how can I select between them?










share|improve this question






















  • Why is accuracy not the best measure for assessing classification models? Everything in that thread applies equally to F1, recall and precision. See also Classification probability threshold.
    – Stephan Kolassa
    Dec 28 '18 at 13:31














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I have three classifiers that classify same dataset with these results:



classifier A:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.36 0.36 0.36
macro avg 0.38 0.43 0.36
weighted avg 0.36 0.36 0.32

classifier B:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.55 0.55 0.55
macro avg 0.60 0.60 0.56
weighted avg 0.61 0.55 0.53

classifier C:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.34 0.34 0.34
macro avg 0.36 0.38 0.32
weighted avg 0.39 0.34 0.32


I want two select two best of them, and I know F1-score is a parameter for compare the classifiers because of its harmony between precision and recall.
So, at first I select classifier B for its best F1-score. for next, both A and C have a same F1-measure,
I want to ask how can I select between them?










share|improve this question













I have three classifiers that classify same dataset with these results:



classifier A:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.36 0.36 0.36
macro avg 0.38 0.43 0.36
weighted avg 0.36 0.36 0.32

classifier B:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.55 0.55 0.55
macro avg 0.60 0.60 0.56
weighted avg 0.61 0.55 0.53

classifier C:
precision recall f1-score
micro avg 0.34 0.34 0.34
macro avg 0.36 0.38 0.32
weighted avg 0.39 0.34 0.32


I want two select two best of them, and I know F1-score is a parameter for compare the classifiers because of its harmony between precision and recall.
So, at first I select classifier B for its best F1-score. for next, both A and C have a same F1-measure,
I want to ask how can I select between them?







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  • Why is accuracy not the best measure for assessing classification models? Everything in that thread applies equally to F1, recall and precision. See also Classification probability threshold.
    – Stephan Kolassa
    Dec 28 '18 at 13:31


















  • Why is accuracy not the best measure for assessing classification models? Everything in that thread applies equally to F1, recall and precision. See also Classification probability threshold.
    – Stephan Kolassa
    Dec 28 '18 at 13:31
















Why is accuracy not the best measure for assessing classification models? Everything in that thread applies equally to F1, recall and precision. See also Classification probability threshold.
– Stephan Kolassa
Dec 28 '18 at 13:31




Why is accuracy not the best measure for assessing classification models? Everything in that thread applies equally to F1, recall and precision. See also Classification probability threshold.
– Stephan Kolassa
Dec 28 '18 at 13:31










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f1-score combines precision and recall in a single figure. As both are pretty similar in A and C cases, f1-score is similar too.



Your choice depends on what it is less harmful in your categorization: false positives or false negatives.



I do recommend you to read the 3rd chapter of "DEEP LEARNING:From Basics to Practice" volume 1 by Andrew Glassner. There you have the three concepts (precision, recall and f1-score) described in a very illustrative way.






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  • they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
    – Saha
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  • You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
    – David
    Dec 29 '18 at 8:16



















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It depends on your application. Assume that you design a classifier model to predict whether a person has cancer. If you wanna say confidently that a person has cancer, you probably prefer a classifier with high precision.
On the other hand, if you want to make sure all people with cancer will be caught, you probably prefer a classifier with high recall.






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    f1-score combines precision and recall in a single figure. As both are pretty similar in A and C cases, f1-score is similar too.



    Your choice depends on what it is less harmful in your categorization: false positives or false negatives.



    I do recommend you to read the 3rd chapter of "DEEP LEARNING:From Basics to Practice" volume 1 by Andrew Glassner. There you have the three concepts (precision, recall and f1-score) described in a very illustrative way.






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    • they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
      – Saha
      Dec 28 '18 at 12:07










    • You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
      – David
      Dec 29 '18 at 8:16
















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    f1-score combines precision and recall in a single figure. As both are pretty similar in A and C cases, f1-score is similar too.



    Your choice depends on what it is less harmful in your categorization: false positives or false negatives.



    I do recommend you to read the 3rd chapter of "DEEP LEARNING:From Basics to Practice" volume 1 by Andrew Glassner. There you have the three concepts (precision, recall and f1-score) described in a very illustrative way.






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    • they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
      – Saha
      Dec 28 '18 at 12:07










    • You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
      – David
      Dec 29 '18 at 8:16














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    f1-score combines precision and recall in a single figure. As both are pretty similar in A and C cases, f1-score is similar too.



    Your choice depends on what it is less harmful in your categorization: false positives or false negatives.



    I do recommend you to read the 3rd chapter of "DEEP LEARNING:From Basics to Practice" volume 1 by Andrew Glassner. There you have the three concepts (precision, recall and f1-score) described in a very illustrative way.






    share|improve this answer












    f1-score combines precision and recall in a single figure. As both are pretty similar in A and C cases, f1-score is similar too.



    Your choice depends on what it is less harmful in your categorization: false positives or false negatives.



    I do recommend you to read the 3rd chapter of "DEEP LEARNING:From Basics to Practice" volume 1 by Andrew Glassner. There you have the three concepts (precision, recall and f1-score) described in a very illustrative way.







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    • they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
      – Saha
      Dec 28 '18 at 12:07










    • You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
      – David
      Dec 29 '18 at 8:16


















    • they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
      – Saha
      Dec 28 '18 at 12:07










    • You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
      – David
      Dec 29 '18 at 8:16
















    they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
    – Saha
    Dec 28 '18 at 12:07




    they are not comparable if we dont have FP or FN?
    – Saha
    Dec 28 '18 at 12:07












    You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
    – David
    Dec 29 '18 at 8:16




    You do not need direct access to FN or FN values. Precision and recall only varies in a part of their fraction formulas which includes FN or FP, so your displayed values reflect their relationship. What Nga Dao and I mean is that your choice depends on the impact of false positives or false negatives in your system. Nga Dao example is quite nice.
    – David
    Dec 29 '18 at 8:16











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    It depends on your application. Assume that you design a classifier model to predict whether a person has cancer. If you wanna say confidently that a person has cancer, you probably prefer a classifier with high precision.
    On the other hand, if you want to make sure all people with cancer will be caught, you probably prefer a classifier with high recall.






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      It depends on your application. Assume that you design a classifier model to predict whether a person has cancer. If you wanna say confidently that a person has cancer, you probably prefer a classifier with high precision.
      On the other hand, if you want to make sure all people with cancer will be caught, you probably prefer a classifier with high recall.






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        It depends on your application. Assume that you design a classifier model to predict whether a person has cancer. If you wanna say confidently that a person has cancer, you probably prefer a classifier with high precision.
        On the other hand, if you want to make sure all people with cancer will be caught, you probably prefer a classifier with high recall.






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        It depends on your application. Assume that you design a classifier model to predict whether a person has cancer. If you wanna say confidently that a person has cancer, you probably prefer a classifier with high precision.
        On the other hand, if you want to make sure all people with cancer will be caught, you probably prefer a classifier with high recall.







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