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Find the number of five-card hands dealt from a deck of $52$ cards, s.t. there is one pair (two cards of one denomination), a third card of a different denomination, a fourth card of a third different denomination, and a fifth card of a fourth different denomination.




My approach is:

There is application of product principle for all the sub-cases (& in the sub-cases as well).



(i) There are $binom{13}{1}$ ways to get one denomination, then choose two cards out of four suits by $binom{4}{2}$.

(ii) Further, the third card can be chosen in $binom{12}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

(iii) The fourth card can be chosen in $binom{11}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

(iv) Further, the fifth card can be chosen in $binom{10}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.



The answer is : $(binom{13}{1}*binom{4}{2})*(binom{12}{1}*4)*(binom{11}{1}*4)*(binom{10}{1}*4)$



But the answer is given by :

$binom{13}{1}* binom{4}{2}* binom{12}{3}* binom{4}{1}^3$



The both approaches given differ by a factor of $3$.



My approach yields higher value by effectively yielding a permutation of $3$ cards from $12$; while the answer yields a combination of them. But, am unclear how my approach is wrong in taking individual choices of :$binom{12}{1}, binom{11}{1}, binom{10}{1}$.










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    Find the number of five-card hands dealt from a deck of $52$ cards, s.t. there is one pair (two cards of one denomination), a third card of a different denomination, a fourth card of a third different denomination, and a fifth card of a fourth different denomination.




    My approach is:

    There is application of product principle for all the sub-cases (& in the sub-cases as well).



    (i) There are $binom{13}{1}$ ways to get one denomination, then choose two cards out of four suits by $binom{4}{2}$.

    (ii) Further, the third card can be chosen in $binom{12}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

    (iii) The fourth card can be chosen in $binom{11}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

    (iv) Further, the fifth card can be chosen in $binom{10}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.



    The answer is : $(binom{13}{1}*binom{4}{2})*(binom{12}{1}*4)*(binom{11}{1}*4)*(binom{10}{1}*4)$



    But the answer is given by :

    $binom{13}{1}* binom{4}{2}* binom{12}{3}* binom{4}{1}^3$



    The both approaches given differ by a factor of $3$.



    My approach yields higher value by effectively yielding a permutation of $3$ cards from $12$; while the answer yields a combination of them. But, am unclear how my approach is wrong in taking individual choices of :$binom{12}{1}, binom{11}{1}, binom{10}{1}$.










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      Find the number of five-card hands dealt from a deck of $52$ cards, s.t. there is one pair (two cards of one denomination), a third card of a different denomination, a fourth card of a third different denomination, and a fifth card of a fourth different denomination.




      My approach is:

      There is application of product principle for all the sub-cases (& in the sub-cases as well).



      (i) There are $binom{13}{1}$ ways to get one denomination, then choose two cards out of four suits by $binom{4}{2}$.

      (ii) Further, the third card can be chosen in $binom{12}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

      (iii) The fourth card can be chosen in $binom{11}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

      (iv) Further, the fifth card can be chosen in $binom{10}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.



      The answer is : $(binom{13}{1}*binom{4}{2})*(binom{12}{1}*4)*(binom{11}{1}*4)*(binom{10}{1}*4)$



      But the answer is given by :

      $binom{13}{1}* binom{4}{2}* binom{12}{3}* binom{4}{1}^3$



      The both approaches given differ by a factor of $3$.



      My approach yields higher value by effectively yielding a permutation of $3$ cards from $12$; while the answer yields a combination of them. But, am unclear how my approach is wrong in taking individual choices of :$binom{12}{1}, binom{11}{1}, binom{10}{1}$.










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      Find the number of five-card hands dealt from a deck of $52$ cards, s.t. there is one pair (two cards of one denomination), a third card of a different denomination, a fourth card of a third different denomination, and a fifth card of a fourth different denomination.




      My approach is:

      There is application of product principle for all the sub-cases (& in the sub-cases as well).



      (i) There are $binom{13}{1}$ ways to get one denomination, then choose two cards out of four suits by $binom{4}{2}$.

      (ii) Further, the third card can be chosen in $binom{12}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

      (iii) The fourth card can be chosen in $binom{11}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.

      (iv) Further, the fifth card can be chosen in $binom{10}{1}$ ways, with a particular card chosen in $binom{4}{1}$ ways.



      The answer is : $(binom{13}{1}*binom{4}{2})*(binom{12}{1}*4)*(binom{11}{1}*4)*(binom{10}{1}*4)$



      But the answer is given by :

      $binom{13}{1}* binom{4}{2}* binom{12}{3}* binom{4}{1}^3$



      The both approaches given differ by a factor of $3$.



      My approach yields higher value by effectively yielding a permutation of $3$ cards from $12$; while the answer yields a combination of them. But, am unclear how my approach is wrong in taking individual choices of :$binom{12}{1}, binom{11}{1}, binom{10}{1}$.







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          They differ by a factor of $3!=6$, not $3$. You choose the pair first, then choose the other three cards in order. It doesn't matter what order the other cards come in, which is the factor $3!$. You count AS AH 2D 3D 4D as different from AS AH 3D 4D 2D but should not.






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            They differ by a factor of $3!=6$, not $3$. You choose the pair first, then choose the other three cards in order. It doesn't matter what order the other cards come in, which is the factor $3!$. You count AS AH 2D 3D 4D as different from AS AH 3D 4D 2D but should not.






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              They differ by a factor of $3!=6$, not $3$. You choose the pair first, then choose the other three cards in order. It doesn't matter what order the other cards come in, which is the factor $3!$. You count AS AH 2D 3D 4D as different from AS AH 3D 4D 2D but should not.






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                They differ by a factor of $3!=6$, not $3$. You choose the pair first, then choose the other three cards in order. It doesn't matter what order the other cards come in, which is the factor $3!$. You count AS AH 2D 3D 4D as different from AS AH 3D 4D 2D but should not.






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                They differ by a factor of $3!=6$, not $3$. You choose the pair first, then choose the other three cards in order. It doesn't matter what order the other cards come in, which is the factor $3!$. You count AS AH 2D 3D 4D as different from AS AH 3D 4D 2D but should not.







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